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[Skippynibble]

These challenges are fun but when do we get a real challenge... ... ...Flamer Challenge!!! Fire!!!

[Spare Parts Bin]

I enjoyed the challenge even though I failed to complete it. I now own IS and Clan Omnis/Mechs. I am not Clan nor am I totally IS. I am a mercenary with a pirate's sensibilities.

[ZortPointNarf]

Baron Blitz Fokheimer, on 16 January 2018 - 07:58 PM, said:

Forget it, dude. You're trying to deal with people whose fundamental argument is a blind appeal to authority. They're not going to give you a single reasonable argument because there isn't one, since their position is untenable. There are no practical differentiating factors between loyalists and "normal" players, and yet they will treat the decision to use only a single faction's mechs as a skill factor in accomplishing the challenge. You didn't buy Clan mechs as an IS player, therefore you are less skillful, and have no right to complain about not being able to complete the challenge, duh!

All you can really do is wait for one of their houses to burn down, so that you can tell them "well, you didn't have to be living there! You only have yourself to blame for your decision!"

Case in point:


This guy, who can't differentiate between actual skill/dedication, and arbitrary exclusion.

These people wouldn't in the least bit get affected if these events catered to us equally, but in their drive to score some brownie points, they needlessly created enough counteracting feedback to ours for PGI to think that no changes are necessary, and now we see that another two event days will be just like the first one.

It's dumb. They get absolutely no rewards for arguing against us, but do anyway.

Ah, still at it I see.

The amount of time you've spent complaining about the event could have been used to farm up for another mech. If you only want to play a single side, by your own choice, then you can't get the reward. Simple as that.

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Edited by poopenshire, 17 January 2018 - 08:44 AM.

[Baron Blitz Fokheimer]

ZortPointNarf, on 16 January 2018 - 09:26 PM, said:

If you only want to play a single side, by your own choice, then you can't get the reward. Simple as that.

And yet you still haven't explained why it should be like that.

And you won't, because you're capable of nothing more than backseat authority.

[WarmasterRaptor]

Baron Blitz Fokheimer, on 16 January 2018 - 09:42 PM, said:

And yet you still haven't explained why it should be like that.

And you won't, because you're capable of nothing more than backseat authority.

Because if anything, the event was to see the current status of « regular » mgs in the game.
A balance test if you will.

And this requires both side to test it with the differents techs.

[Baron Blitz Fokheimer]

WarmasterRaptor, on 16 January 2018 - 10:15 PM, said:

Because if anything, the event was to see the current status of « regular » mgs in the game.
A balance test if you will.

And this requires both side to test it with the differents techs.

Source?

Edited by Baron Blitz Fokheimer, 16 January 2018 - 10:25 PM.

[ZortPointNarf]

Baron Blitz Fokheimer, on 16 January 2018 - 10:24 PM, said:

Source?

Applying logic.

The introduction of a MG boating mech that pretty much doubles what any other mech is capable of needs a bigger data set.
It's a clam mech, so if they make any changes to the clam mg's they need a corresponding data set for IS mech to prevent power creep/nerfing occuring to one side only.

I see there is also a SRM dual side event scheduled, so I think they want to review those as well.


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[Doctor Dinosaur]

Please PGI, I'd really like to have the news a bit earlier when the next event is about to start. There are timezones and real life stuff which often make it hard to catch the first day of an event. Most often I check for events an hour before it appears on the news, switch to netflix instead of playing...just like with Day 1...just to miss the start.

Sad regards
Doc

[MovinTarget]

Baron Blitz Fokheimer, on 16 January 2018 - 07:58 PM, said:

This guy, who can't differentiate between actual skill/dedication, and arbitrary exclusion.

These people wouldn't in the least bit get affected if these events catered to us equally, but in their drive to score some brownie points, they needlessly created enough counteracting feedback to ours for PGI to think that no changes are necessary, and now we see that another two event days will be just like the first one.

It's dumb. They get absolutely no rewards for arguing against us, but do anyway.

Bottom line, PGI does not have to explain itself on every little detail of everything it does, just as no one in game is obligated to buy both and and IS mechs, or equip meta loadouts on said mechs.

PGI can not be faulted if users opt to not utilize any/all tech. PGI is not obligated to ensure that every.single.challenge caters to all players within their self-imposed restrictions. In fact it makes good business sense to encourage players to be as fully immersed as possible in their product which can include the acquisition and usage of all tech available in the game.

My underlying point which can be corroborated in just about every forum thread on this site and several on Reddit is that PGI (nor any other entity for that matter) cannot satisfy their entire customer base all the time. So why keep trying to overthink think it?

Find me an official PGI event thread that is devoid of salt/whining and I will quit the game. Because even the Just-show-up-for-one-game-and-win-swag events got salt. Someone always complains. Always. If not you someone else.

Edited by MovinTarget, 17 January 2018 - 04:11 AM.

[D V Devnull]

Heh... People are still mad over Day 1 from what I can see. Yeah, it needs a 24-hour extension, just to give people one last chance due to not always being plugged into the News Feed 24/7... Only question now is, is Matt Newman listening to the Forum Thread?

~D. V. "Yeah, I'm one of the ones who got screwed by not being plugged into the News Feed 24/7" Devnull

[Zh0u]

D V Devnull, on 17 January 2018 - 04:48 AM, said:

Heh... People are still mad over Day 1 from what I can see. Yeah, it needs a 24-hour extension, just to give people one last chance due to not always being plugged into the News Feed 24/7... Only question now is, is Matt Newman listening to the Forum Thread?

~D. V. "Yeah, I'm one of the ones who got screwed by not being plugged into the News Feed 24/7" Devnull

Nooooo no extension please...I was glad the MG madness is over.

[D V Devnull]

Zh0u, on 17 January 2018 - 05:22 AM, said:

Nooooo no extension please...I was glad the MG madness is over.

Meh... I just would have liked the chance to see if there really was a bug with that one after someone else mentioned directly to me IRL that they might have only been given one of the two ".50 Cal Necklaces" that the Reward said it was supposed to give. I guess I'll never find out now.

~D. V. "I've always been a bit of a bug hunter..." Devnull

[Rebel Ace Fryslan]

I HAD FUN, doing this mg gun challenge.
actual coop happening between units, good fun.

[Pelmeshek]

I know u PGI as usually busy/lazy and love little details but where countdown for piranha?

[James Argent]

Baron Blitz Fokheimer, on 16 January 2018 - 09:42 PM, said:

And yet you still haven't explained why it should be like that.

Because catering to people who will never, under any circumstances whatsoever, spend money on half of the things they offer for sale is a worse business decision than structuring a reward system to favor those who are willing to support all parts of the game.

Edited by James Argent, 17 January 2018 - 09:49 AM.

[MovinTarget]

James Argent, on 17 January 2018 - 09:48 AM, said:

Because catering to people who will never, under any circumstances whatsoever, spend money on half of the things they offer for sale is a worse business decision than structuring a reward system to favor those who are willing to support all parts of the game.

B-b-b-but I'm a registered Republican, still, I demand the right to participate in the Democratic National Convention!!!

Edited by MovinTarget, 17 January 2018 - 10:20 AM.

[Sarsaparilla Kid]

James Argent, on 17 January 2018 - 09:48 AM, said:

Because catering to people who will never, under any circumstances whatsoever, spend money on half of the things they offer for sale is a worse business decision than structuring a reward system to favor those who are willing to support all parts of the game.

An argument which absolutely makes no sense for those that have separate accounts for each faction and have spent heavily to fund those accounts and have therefore supported all parts of the game. It is of little consequence this time, though, as the reward in this case is trivial, not even worth buying a cross-faction mech to complete it.

[Domoneky]

Still waiting for PGI to go out of business....

[Dee Eight]

WarmasterRaptor, on 16 January 2018 - 10:15 PM, said:

Because if anything, the event was to see the current status of « regular » mgs in the game.
A balance test if you will.

And this requires both side to test it with the differents techs.

Why this wasn't obvious to everyone the moment the event began is beyond me.

[James Argent]

Sarsaparilla Kid, on 17 January 2018 - 01:20 PM, said:

An argument which absolutely makes no sense for those that have separate accounts for each faction and have spent heavily to fund those accounts and have therefore supported all parts of the game. It is of little consequence this time, though, as the reward in this case is trivial, not even worth buying a cross-faction mech to complete it.

PGI doesn't see 'I'm one person with an account for each side,' they see two halfassed accounts. In an academic sense, they know you exist, but unless you're in line for a banning with one or both of those accounts and they're investigating you they'll never know those two accounts are both yours.