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#141 TWIAFU

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 04:19 AM

View PostLordFatman, on 19 January 2018 - 05:41 PM, said:

I am sorry but when people think just because some one is not as good as them pgi should allow them to get farmed at spawn that is funny


Pssst, PGI didn't let you get spawned camped, you and your cowardly side did.

Maybe leave your QP mentality in QP or you will get spawn camped over and over and over and without mercy.

View PostDaFrog, on 19 January 2018 - 01:32 PM, said:

I almost give a dam. But since my wallet is closed, I don't. I just can not believe that we do not havephysical attacks and destructible environment. So FP ? lmfao.



Neither of those would have helped you last night in CW.

#142 Johnathan Tanner

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 04:20 AM

View Postmarcusmaximus55, on 20 January 2018 - 04:02 AM, said:

quick question when do u tell the new players they are just there to be farmed by your pay to play
and derps because the server is setting up the matches that way pug vs pro team?? or is it just
about $ ?
Right about now
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#143 TWIAFU

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 04:23 AM

View PostSlow Speed, on 19 January 2018 - 03:18 PM, said:


Come on now. That warning sign have been there a long time. To what degree will you be willing to admit that this is enough?


Been there so long now, that there is NO EXCUSE for not reading it once, not comprehending what it means anymore.

Sole responsibility lies with the person that failed to read, comprehend, and just click OK.

View PostLordFatman, on 19 January 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:


you are a ****** that is why you cant get new players and have to wait 20 min or more for a match hell I am waiting over 10 min just for group qp


Because you are clan scum and want an easier button.

Quit Clan and play IS for no wait.

Next BS excuse?

#144 Eirik Eriksson

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 04:27 AM

View Postmarcusmaximus55, on 20 January 2018 - 04:02 AM, said:

quick question when do u tell the new players they are just there to be farmed by your pay to play
and derps because the server is setting up the matches that way pug vs pro team?? or is it just
about $ ?

As it was said several times in the thread, this is not a game mode for new players, cause when they do that, they will most likely be very reluctant to go in there again. It does not make things better, that the most players will do it anyhow, and in many cases driven by PGI themselves through some challange with tempting rewards.


Bring the content to QP, they can pick up the rewards there under more pleasant circumstances.


Edited by Slow Speed, 20 January 2018 - 04:27 AM.


#145 Johnathan Tanner

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 04:31 AM

View PostSlow Speed, on 20 January 2018 - 04:27 AM, said:


As it was said several times in the thread, this is not a game mode for new players, cause when they do that, they will most likely be very reluctant to go in there again. It does not make things better, that the most players will do it anyhow, and in many cases driven by PGI themselves through some challange with tempting rewards.


Bring the content to QP, they can pick up the rewards there under more pleasant circumstances.


By all means put the content in quick play. But those rewards you speak of? Those are for units and people who are willing to group up and work as a team against other units. Justified by the higher difficulty.

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#146 TWIAFU

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 04:35 AM

View PostLordFatman, on 19 January 2018 - 05:21 PM, said:


IF THEY ARE PLAYING THEY ARE PUTTING IN SAME EFFORT JUST CAUSE THEY NOT AS GOOD A 12 MAN OF JOB LESS LOSERS WHO ONLY LIVE T0 PLAY THIS GAME DONT MEAN THEY SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO PLAY AND LEAVE DROP ZONE


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You have put in ZERO effort if you are unable to leave your DZ.

No amount of temper tantrum all caps can change that.

#147 TWIAFU

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 04:42 AM

View PostBishop Six, on 20 January 2018 - 01:30 AM, said:


Friday evening - had only instant drops all the time....with my group.


But do you think he will join a group?

Of course not.....

View Postmarcusmaximus55, on 20 January 2018 - 04:02 AM, said:

quick question when do u tell the new players they are just there to be farmed by your pay to play
and derps because the server is setting up the matches that way pug vs pro team?? or is it just
about $ ?


They know that the moment they finish reading the warning.

You did read it, right? You know what you are expected to have and be able to do, right?

#148 Bud Crue

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:20 AM

Take this as you will:
Playing as a 4-6 man last night. Most of us hadn't played CW (invasion) in a VERY long time.
Played 6 or maybe 7 matches before I had to quit (I got pretty toasted by the last match to the point I forgot we were playing CW and kept wondering...aloud...why/how I kept coming back into the game. But I digress).
Now admittedly we are all casual, mixed tiers, mixed skills, and were playing with decks that hadn't seen the light of day since phase 3 in some cases, and at least one was playing with trial mechs. Alas we lost 4 of the 6, but...

we somehow managed to always get out of our spawn zones (even when we were down 3-19 at one point). We never stopped fighting. No one moaned about OP clanners. No one complained about comp guys ruining the mode. Frankly, despite my loathing for what PGI has done to the mode, I have to admit it was more fun that group queue QP has been of late.

#149 TWIAFU

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:29 AM

View PostBud Crue, on 20 January 2018 - 05:20 AM, said:

Take this as you will:

Frankly, despite my loathing for what PGI has done to the mode, I have to admit it was more fun that group queue QP has been of late.


Glad to read you jumped in and sounds like you actually had some fun despite being somewhat rusty.

Contemplate the possibilities of your 4-6man was doubled to 8-12. Could have at least cut off one loss, maybe even two. Even more if you can keep your group dropping in the future.

You will not find anyone to disagree that the mode is lacking. Even if it is lacking in depth it is possible to have a great time in CW, first step is to group with friends. May sounds cheesy AF, but if your having a good time with friends haven't you already won?

#150 Bud Crue

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:34 AM

View PostTWIAFU, on 20 January 2018 - 05:29 AM, said:


Glad to read you jumped in and sounds like you actually had some fun despite being somewhat rusty.

Contemplate the possibilities of your 4-6man was doubled to 8-12. Could have at least cut off one loss, maybe even two. Even more if you can keep your group dropping in the future.

You will not find anyone to disagree that the mode is lacking. Even if it is lacking in depth it is possible to have a great time in CW, first step is to group with friends. May sounds cheesy AF, but if your having a good time with friends haven't you already won?


Indeed. Playing with a group of friends is always a good time. If you can manage to play with that group and function as a team its even better. That last part is what so many people apparently cannot fathom. It is true in CW, its true in group queue. The only difference is that in CW they give you a god damn warning sign which explains this concept to those who might be a bit slow on the uptake...and they still can't seem to grasp the idea. Meh.

#151 Eirik Eriksson

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 06:53 AM

View PostJohnathan Tanner, on 20 January 2018 - 04:31 AM, said:

By all means put the content in quick play. But those rewards you speak of? Those are for units and people who are willing to group up and work as a team against other units. Justified by the higher difficulty.

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Agree to that, and if it was a QP option there as well, the awards could be given to both solos and teams and on the top of give the whole community a wider access to the game.

#152 LordFatman

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:17 AM

I only have 1 more thing to say don't fix it and when no one is left to play and fw is shut down don't cry

#153 TWIAFU

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:27 AM

View PostLordFatman, on 20 January 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

I only have 1 more thing to say don't fix it and when no one is left to play and fw is shut down don't cry


Nothing to fix.

Your the problem, not Group/Unit.

Now, stop crying.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:37 AM

View PostTWIAFU, on 20 January 2018 - 09:27 AM, said:


Nothing to fix.

Your the problem, not Group/Unit.

Now, stop crying.


View PostLordFatman, on 20 January 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

I only have 1 more thing to say don't fix it and when no one is left to play and fw is shut down don't cry


These forums mean nothing to the devs anymore and your wasting your time those that wish FP to change trying to fight the good fight is wonderful but you need to do it on twitter or rededit not here.

All you will get on these forums is trolled by those who want MWO basically to stay the way it is until the servers are shut down and they seal club there last victim.It is not to late to fix FP by splinting the queues and trying to retain more players in MWO but it will not happen here I suggest all who want to help fix FP and MWO stop posting on these forums and get on twitter and rededit and bombard Russ until he pays attention to the situation.

If that fails then MWO is basically doomed to die so just play what you can for fun as long as you can then move on to another game and put your money into something else.

#155 Eirik Eriksson

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:38 AM

View PostTWIAFU, on 20 January 2018 - 09:27 AM, said:


Nothing to fix.

Your the problem, not Group/Unit.

Now, stop crying.


Some solutions to a problem are indeed admirable.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 10:28 AM

pssst like I said yer pirhanass server has pre rigged the match for pawgs 8 to fight 14 man presets in all game modes(well theres only 2 game modes havent seen any one que for 3rd not working highend game que game)... is ther a game mode in MWO that isn't $ based ?? ie okay your 12 man and my 12 pawgs go at it in any match same trial mechs that's called skill based play ... dropping12 newbs into apre made sealstomp is faming the playerbase for the pay to plays to have easy time (ooohhh and OP mech players with skill shoudnt have to "birddog" there own team to make sure that the match doesnt last longer tan 2.5 minutes or FFing/legging/using "voice synch" to change there voice as they march u to F6 for anotherwipe) unless they think they got a new $$$ recruit in the midst. OOOHH I said 8 pawgs and 14 pros didn't I ya figured out "padding the matches" is pretty much standard as well. as posted in other posts by your "veteran" player base.
so at what point do the games reps or ula state that "your skill in this game is pointless"
1 buy several mechs ($200 cash)
2 get in a unit
3 grind needlessly for nothing BUT keep buying those new mechs to stay "skill competitive"
4 or don't play if your not $

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 10:32 AM

Why does FP even have to be clan vs. IS anymore? If nothing else, why do the mechs have to be locked to factions? PGI abandoned lore a long time ago, so just let everyone use whatever mech they want regardless of what faction they play for.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 10:34 AM

already deleted just thought those players that don't know they are paying big cash for "seal beating" and the FAKE F2p
format is a lie, hopefully at least one other new player will say" that's how this game works"is that even legal for the company to break its own ula agreement?? OOOHHHH and there derps have been VERY busy trying to stay ahead of the truth about there product it is after all a multi million dollar industry "ripe for the pickn, cause they can"

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 10:40 AM

OOOHHH u mean the dumb faction thing match OOOHHHHH ..... y a got to teir 4 ghost clan in 1 week by stomping yer pre made BS yaaaaa with pugs , we just didn't listen to your comm dervs (now how did a rag tag pawg WHHOOOOPPPPP the crap out of several pre made matches) yup pre made matches winners already determined before match. we kicked there unskilled overpriced pretty mechs asss with trial mechs cause ya really just cant buy skill mic drop

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 11:07 AM

View Postmarcusmaximus55, on 20 January 2018 - 10:34 AM, said:

already deleted just thought those players that don't know they are paying big cash for "seal beating" and the FAKE F2p
format is a lie, hopefully at least one other new player will say" that's how this game works"is that even legal for the company to break its own ula agreement?? OOOHHHH and there derps have been VERY busy trying to stay ahead of the truth about there product it is after all a multi million dollar industry "ripe for the pickn, cause they can"


View Postmarcusmaximus55, on 20 January 2018 - 10:40 AM, said:

OOOHHH u mean the dumb faction thing match OOOHHHHH ..... y a got to teir 4 ghost clan in 1 week by stomping yer pre made BS yaaaaa with pugs , we just didn't listen to your comm dervs (now how did a rag tag pawg WHHOOOOPPPPP the crap out of several pre made matches) yup pre made matches winners already determined before match. we kicked there unskilled overpriced pretty mechs asss with trial mechs cause ya really just cant buy skill mic drop


I understand that English may not be this person's first language. Can somebody please assist and try to form coherent sentences from this frothing outburst of Clan gibberish?



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