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[Reza Malin]

tker 669, on 20 January 2018 - 01:30 PM, said:

This is the mode that is designed for units.

New players don't belong, it says so in the warning.

While the population is low, it is for the entire game.

So in a way yes, it would be better to play the mode that is meant for coordinated units until the game dies out. That it has hung on this long is a small miracle and we have at least another year.

These discussions come around so often because of people complaining and wanting the mode to cater to the same crowd as quick play...

Last night I dropped from around 5pm until 1am with my unit (BCMC) and we only faced two pug groups. One of those groups while not all the same unit, were a group of regulars and it actually was one of the better matches.

I have to say I also gained a bunch of respect for the bunch of Marik pilots who cued up without hesitation three times in a row to face us.

So if last night is the result of these forums, or drop zone farming, or whatever, than great.

Getting to play against other organised units is exactly what this mode is about, and it is what it is at its best.

So I will be grateful if you move on to whatever great game is coming out and stop trying to push or complain to PGI to change the mode for solo player. There is quick play for that.

Ok mate. I don't think you read my post, but whatever, its irrelevant to be honest. Believe me when I say this, I quite literally don't care. I simply made a statement to tell anyone who was interested that this discussion is a waste of time as it has come around on countless occasions with always the same result.

"Git gud!"

"Git comms!"

"Git teamwork!"

"Git like me!"

Also ironic you are from one of the top teams, BCMC. I bet that "Bunch of Marik pilots" are really impressed with themselves knowing they have your "respect", though clearly not a unit tag. Ha ha, did you read what you wrote? Lol, hilarious, get over yourself!

Enjoy your game mode, I have no doubt you are good at it. That is all that matters after all.....

[Eirik Eriksson]

Hazeclaw, on 20 January 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

sry, ok here we go:

Please allow this individual to continue posting his incredibly insightful, balanced and quite humorously presented opinions in the same manner he has so far. It is a joy to read.

Thank you for expressing your thoughts, I cannot say i am totally not amused myself. But here you go. The differences in ability and time input is huge in the game, and even if expressed in an "international English" - like myself, it will still represent an opinion to me, and this opinion was triggered at some point.

[r4zen]

Reza Malin, on 20 January 2018 - 02:12 PM, said:

Ok mate. I don't think you read my post, but whatever, its irrelevant to be honest. Believe me when I say this, I quite literally don't care.

You literally don't care enough to take the time from your day to come tell us you don't care?

[Johnathan Tanner]

Reza Malin, on 20 January 2018 - 02:12 PM, said:

Enjoy your game mode, I have no doubt you are good at it. That is all that matters after all.....

Yes, it is. So why don't you go enjoy yours. But somehow, I think you don't your happy there either.

[Reza Malin]

r4zen, on 20 January 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

You literally don't care enough to take the time from your day to come tell us you don't care?

Seeing as you asked, here it is:

I am at work mate. I work for a week solid, living onsite. Free wifi all the way.

I was glancing at the forums, looking at piranha stuff, which you know I have pre ordered.

So, is that ok with you so far, forum police?

Then, as I saw the forum home page I saw the thread title at the front of FP section, and decided, for better or for worse to have a look. What can I say, it piqued my interest.

And thus, my comment was born. And further thus, the circlejerkers came out in droves, ironically exactly as I predicted in my initial comment. Told you I had been here before.

Congratulations on being that one cliché kid who always comments "You don't play yet you come to the forums, yeah sure gr8". Ha ha! Every time.

While it might take you a while to type out basic paragraphs, it is not the case for everyone. I am a touch typer, replying to these types of things takes a few minutes tops. Hardly a stretch.

Thanks for caring though, I'm good thanks.

EDIT: Just noticed your unit signature. Chill mate, its just a game. Stop taking it so seriously or personally.

Edited by Reza Malin, 20 January 2018 - 03:03 PM.

[Reza Malin]

Johnathan Tanner, on 20 January 2018 - 02:50 PM, said:

Yes, it is. So why don't you go enjoy yours. But somehow, I think you don't your happy there either.

What makes you think I am not happy? We need more assumptions around here!

I just said I gave up on FP. I still play it from time to time. It doesn't bother me, I play it for what it is. If you actually read my earlier comment I was simply stating that this discussion never leads anywhere positive, and the reasons why, including why FP is dead forever.

Hence why I play QP now. Happily. As well as various other games.

It is allowed to play other games, its actually quite normal and healthy, though that may come as a shock to some here! Ha ha.

Edited by Reza Malin, 20 January 2018 - 03:08 PM.

[MischiefSC]

Reza Malin, on 20 January 2018 - 03:11 AM, said:

Made this point several times before, same arguments pop up, mostly active units/players telling people to git gud, git voice comms, turn up to "training sessions", blah de blah. Things that switch most normal people off almost immediately.

Its pointless, this discussion will go nowhere. Ever.

It needs a huge revamp now, which it will never get. Its dead. PGI messed up in allowing units so much power over the entire game mode as the population dwindled. Being able to swap actions so easily didn't help, and allowing the population to decrease through inaction was the nail in the coffin. Its too late to change any of it now because people start crying "but muh fwends, but muh other faction mechs".

Now the population is so low, it essentially revolves around the same people who are all in on MWO, and barely any other games. They mostly all know each other regardless of unit, and will often play in pre mades through TS servers etc. People who just love clocking in as much as possible regardless of wait times or population, and probably don't play many other games. Just leave them to it.

Because if a 12 man of pugs, or even an average group turns up to feed them, so much the better, they then justify crapping all over them and keeping the new player experience at sub zero with....wait for it....having to wait longer due to low populations. Its a neverending circle of elitist circlejerk and new/average player dissatisfaction.

Hence why these discussions come around every so often.

Let it go. FP is dead and buried. Enjoy QP like 90% of the playerbase does, and hope Battletech and MW5 are good.

If not, then plenty of other good games coming in 2018! Roll on Tomb Kings Tuesday!

Wow. None of that is true. For one, FW was always for units and about units. That was the whole point.

For another I know only 1 person and 1 person only who only plays MWO and while he's a great guy he's absolutely not stomping anyone. All the rest of us play tons of other games.

I get the need for people to pretend that not being terrible at MWO is some incredible huge impossible effort, but no. Its a mondset. Not a ton of skills involved. Learn what a good deck is and why. Bring it. Learn what good choices are (hint:play as a team) and make them. Don't play it like QP. Don't be a selfish jerk. Have a bit of awareness.

In terms of effort to git gud its not as hard to master as, say, Kerbal Space Program or even Crusader Kings. Just that the skills involved are not being an antisocial nitwit, understanding teamwork and a bit of self analysis.

Which apparently is like curing cancer while colonizing mars for some people.

[Johnathan Tanner]

MischiefSC, on 20 January 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

Kerbal Space Program

Ima get to that moon around Jool............Someday.

[ANOM O MECH]

Reza Malin, on 20 January 2018 - 02:12 PM, said:

Ok mate. I don't think you read my post, but whatever, its irrelevant to be honest. Believe me when I say this, I quite literally don't care. I simply made a statement to tell anyone who was interested that this discussion is a waste of time as it has come around on countless occasions with always the same result.

"Git gud!"

"Git comms!"

"Git teamwork!"

"Git like me!"

Also ironic you are from one of the top teams, BCMC. I bet that "Bunch of Marik pilots" are really impressed with themselves knowing they have your "respect", though clearly not a unit tag. Ha ha, did you read what you wrote? Lol, hilarious, get over yourself!

Enjoy your game mode, I have no doubt you are good at it. That is all that matters after all.....

I am BCMC's worst pilot. I am well over myself.

Those bunch of Marik's were in a group, most with a bunch of different tags. They got beat up pretty bad and jumped right back in the queue. You're right, my respect probably doesn't mean a lot, but they have it anyways.

They really don't need my respect anyways, as they clearly have the fortitude and innards to get by. That's my point and if it came off as self aggrandizing it wasn't meant to.

As far as your gracious public service announcement however, my point stands. The mode is meant for organised play period. So except for the get good, all of the comms, and teamwork is very much applicable.

Sorry if it seems elitist to tell folks that going up against players who are on comms and are coordinated is a bad idea and not one likely to produce good results.

As for what matters? What matters to guys like me who are not the best, is the ability to be a part of something bigger than our crummy personal skills would allow. It matters to some of us that CW is never gimped the way group queue in quick play was gimped. That those of us who bought into the unit and organised being on comms playstyle, don't have that taken away and more mindless changes to appease people who will never be happy aren't added such as the quick play maps and no bucket nonsense.

So that you likely won't be able to comprehend or appreciate the above because of your own personal biases doesn't really matter either. I mean you haven't been able to adapt and the best you seem to have come up with is villainizing people playing as intended... don't worry though this is just a counter public service announcement pointing out how you don't have any real point or anything valuable or constructive to say, and not meant to be relevant to someone in dire need of a waaambulance.

[MischiefSC]

Johnathan Tanner, on 20 January 2018 - 03:16 PM, said:

Ima get to that moon around Jool............Someday.

Jool has 5 moons. Laythe? The one with water?

Send a probe ship with 2 comm sats and a lot of spare fuel first. Put the comm sats in opposite orbits around Jool at a distance beyond Pols orbit. Put the fuel tanker in Laythe high orbit - it's easier to rendezvous coming from low to high.

Then send a lander. In fact I would send a 2man lander and reorbit ship and a lone guy in a 3man round trip return ship that refuels at Laythe. Getting there is half the drama - you need a lot of return fuel because you really want to transition Laythe to Jool then Jool to Kerbin on the return.

[JaggedCrane]

I don't understand why I drop facing the boundry, get shot in the back and die before I can turn around, then drop again facing the boundry and die before I can turn around, drop *again* facing the boundry and die before I can turn around.

Game over.

[r4zen]

Reza Malin, on 20 January 2018 - 03:01 PM, said:

So, is that ok with you so far, forum police?

Reza Malin, on 20 January 2018 - 03:01 PM, said:

Congratulations on being that one cliché kid

Reza Malin, on 20 January 2018 - 03:01 PM, said:

Stop taking it so seriously or personally.

/r/RezaCriticizesReza

[LordFatman]

It's Saturday 9:30 PM eastern standard time 1/2 hr. searching still no match Looks like this movies got a lot of players

[MischiefSC]

Switch to IS.

With 1 bukkit any population disparity means pugs are always back of the line.

1 bukkit sucks.

[ANOM O MECH]

LordFatman, on 20 January 2018 - 06:34 PM, said:

It's Saturday 9:30 PM eastern standard time 1/2 hr. searching still no match Looks like this movies got a lot of players

Still ignoring the warning I see.

[LordFatman]

tker 669, on 20 January 2018 - 07:29 PM, said:

Still ignoring the warning I see.

were is the this game is dying warning last year got matches quick this year its dead

Edited by LordFatman, 21 January 2018 - 04:22 AM.

[Ssamout]

LordFatman, on 21 January 2018 - 04:21 AM, said:

were is the this game is dying warning last year got matches quick this year its dead

wut? more beer? ever heard punctuation marks?

[TWIAFU]

LordFatman, on 21 January 2018 - 04:21 AM, said:

were is the this game is dying warning last year got matches quick this year its dead

QUIT PLAYING CLAN FOR INSTA DROPS!

Solved.

Next?

[marcusmaximus55]

sadly as I called it "the dervs and derps" still very active here, u can see by this account LOOK IT UP IF YER SO ON THE EDGE. played for 3 days staright got my rep w/ ghostbear clan had some real fun. but something just wasn't right about this game... the skill curve ... didn't really notice one at all , point aim click couple mouse keys "wasd" keyboard but noticed that comms got real angry when "u actually helped your team by fnding te enemy in LGTmechs" and the "none comm communication didnt really exist"
then a merc from a high end lance unit "u know who u are and shame shame shame" said "Marcus get back overhere rigt now THIS IA A PAWG" "Ubloody little american twit" whats a pawg O comm from the sky trying help our side win ... "pre arranged win game" and we are supposed to sit here till they come . too wich my reply was "WTF ?? PAWG" and every match sense that Faction game(hence posted in couple different spots) was a pawg. the servers of this are stacked aganst new players AND
the pro lances take advantage of it ... this IS very well known among the players AND staff .. wwaaaaa this isnt 5 letters long ... its t hard to read, things are miss peeled ,)
what ever this game is still a scham. the employees know it, the owners of server knows it, and all the players "theres no other mech games... ive spent too much on my mechs ... other GAME COMPANYS DO THE SAME THING" is not enough of a reason to keep garbage afloat ... ive tried not to use harsh language as "young adults do play this game" to those that need to berate and curse in a general chat room and troll some one cause of there typing ability ... u probably have both your hands ... JERK ... OOHHH I don't have the skills,don't under stand team work ?? not sure what "russ,s" twisted concept of team is .... oh ya pawg .. u think this my first account?? I typed earlier that I was asked to lead a loseing pawg (by an in game pro lance player AND U knowwho u are shame) and we wiped them .... then I was "in game penalized because I had typed too much" ... really ... I mean WTH is team based about that ... and getting yelled at by comms "FOR TRYING TO HELP THE TEAM WIN MATCH BY GIVING ENEMY CORDS TO MY TEAM"???? IN A PAWG?? ya sure I'm a"NEWB" but I'm still a customer ... even if "I" decide to F2P and not P2W. that is how pirahana "tricked me" into downloading this .. well cant even call it a game ... its on all modes pre arranged win games

[Johnathan Tanner]

marcusmaximus55, on 21 January 2018 - 06:03 AM, said:

sadly as I called it "the dervs and derps" still very active here, u can see by this account LOOK IT UP IF YER SO ON THE EDGE. played for 3 days staright got my rep w/ ghostbear clan had some real fun. but something just wasn't right about this game... the skill curve ... didn't really notice one at all , point aim click couple mouse keys "wasd" keyboard but noticed that comms got real angry when "u actually helped your team by fnding te enemy in LGTmechs" and the "none comm communication didnt really exist"
then a merc from a high end lance unit "u know who u are and shame shame shame" said "Marcus get back overhere rigt now THIS IA A PAWG" "Ubloody little american twit" whats a pawg O comm from the sky trying help our side win ... "pre arranged win game" and we are supposed to sit here till they come . too wich my reply was "WTF ?? PAWG" and every match sense that Faction game(hence posted in couple different spots) was a pawg. the servers of this are stacked aganst new players AND
the pro lances take advantage of it ... this IS very well known among the players AND staff .. wwaaaaa this isnt 5 letters long ... its t hard to read, things are miss peeled ,)
what ever this game is still a scham. the employees know it, the owners of server knows it, and all the players "theres no other mech games... ive spent too much on my mechs ... other GAME COMPANYS DO THE SAME THING" is not enough of a reason to keep garbage afloat ... ive tried not to use harsh language as "young adults do play this game" to those that need to berate and curse in a general chat room and troll some one cause of there typing ability ... u probably have both your hands ... JERK ... OOHHH I don't have the skills,don't under stand team work ?? not sure what "russ,s" twisted concept of team is .... oh ya pawg .. u think this my first account?? I typed earlier that I was asked to lead a loseing pawg (by an in game pro lance player AND U knowwho u are shame) and we wiped them .... then I was "in game penalized because I had typed too much" ... really ... I mean WTH is team based about that ... and getting yelled at by comms "FOR TRYING TO HELP THE TEAM WIN MATCH BY GIVING ENEMY CORDS TO MY TEAM"???? IN A PAWG?? ya sure I'm a"NEWB" but I'm still a customer ... even if "I" decide to F2P and not P2W. that is how pirahana "tricked me" into downloading this .. well cant even call it a game ... its on all modes pre arranged win games

Lol tell us how you REALLY feel.