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#41 BEST EGG

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 05:46 AM

View Postmarcusmaximus55, on 22 January 2018 - 04:28 AM, said:

arranged

pre arranged win game


This is, by definition, completely false with regards to MWO.

If every player on team A does not shoot and sits still in spawn, team B will win, regardless of any other input. Therefore, the game by definition is not pre-arranged, as nothing can make team A win in this situation.

Try and prove me wrong.

Pro tip - you can't!

This thread should be locked and saged, and OP should be banned for low effort trolling.

#42 C E Dwyer

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 05:47 AM

View Postadamts01, on 22 January 2018 - 05:31 AM, said:


I'm personally not interested in snowflake disputes, and as a supporter of free speech I don't believe hate speech is a thing. I'm purely commenting on the environment they've created, which I believe to be the best the gaming industry has ever seen.




So you think it's ok to have people send death threats in the post, and to tell other members of the community to kill said player if they ever meet them, and the best thing this guy could do for humanity is hang himself, all over a computer game ?

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 05:49 AM

View PostCathy, on 22 January 2018 - 05:42 AM, said:


lol well I put pawg in a search engine, to find out, like one poster suggested, and lets just say what came up made me very glad my daughter or wife wasn't around.

sorry, but it was still probably a good laugh. I had to google it myself because I've never heard the full term he used outside of player vs enviroment setups, and even then generally only in board/tt game settings. it really doesn't apply to player vs player unless you can derive stats that show intentional mismatching.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 05:50 AM

View Postmarcusmaximus55, on 22 January 2018 - 01:26 AM, said:

dear Dakota1000 hope u are doing well I'm talking about FP AND QP. there is no way into a match without using the MWO private servers. and yes, sadly the server does setup players that are matching to play. why do the teirs u spawn with in pugs always seem unbalanced ?? why is the FP matching unbalanced ..... doesn't MWO claim to have over 60,000 active players but cant balance matches ??? sniff sniff sniff ... whats buring?? u been playn pre made matches and thinking u were better than those at the end of your barrel. and the burnt smell is new F2P players that didnt know about pawgs and pre made matches. probably still learning the game.


Well for FP it gives you a warning message saying that the mode will put you up against organized competition when you click the mode for the first time, so you go into that knowing what you're getting into.

However for quickplay I'm not really finding my matches unbalanced, I'm in T1 and players know what they're doing. I can walk around a corner and die in seconds. I know the names of many of the players who will be against me in matches in T1, I can find them right here on this forum and their leaderboard positions are similar to mine. I also see a whole lot of mechs that aren't out for cbills, hero mechs, and painted mechs for them to be free to play players.

There's a whole lot of difference between these guys and the players of T5. I've seen quite a lot of T5 gameplay, its always players who don't really know what they're doing and builds that clearly show it or trial mechs.

#45 adamts01

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 05:58 AM

View PostCathy, on 22 January 2018 - 05:47 AM, said:

So you think it's ok to have people send death threats in the post, and to tell other members of the community to kill said player if they ever meet them, and the best thing this guy could do for humanity is hang himself, all over a computer game ?
Of course not, but that's life. People insult other people, especially behind perceived anonymity. I say blame the person, not the forum they happened to be fighting on. But this is all besides the point. I think EVE did an incredible job. They made an open world where you could face your enemies in head to head combat or financially overpower them. I played it for about 3 months and just couldn't stand the flow of combat, but I've always been interested in returning just for the economics aspect, plus scanning down systems and looking for a safe way past campers was always fun. I think they did an incredible job, I just wish combat was fps style, which is why I'm cautiously optimistic for Star Citizen.

#46 Seranov

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 06:25 AM

This is kind of hilarious, honestly. This kid is so very T5, down to the blaming the game and its developers for his own poor performance. Also jumping into Faction Play and being surprised when the mode that outright informs you that you will be matched with skilled players and groups actually has skilled players and groups in it.

#47 sycocys

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 06:57 AM

View PostSeranov, on 22 January 2018 - 06:25 AM, said:

This is kind of hilarious, honestly. This kid is so very T5, down to the blaming the game and its developers for his own poor performance.

Sadly I don't think he's a kid. At least by the context he's given, seems to be a full grown adult that adopted the marxist way of thinking.

Gosh darnit everything should be equal for everyone, no matter how much or little effort they put in!

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 06:57 AM

cathy I'm so sorry for your loss. I have lost to hate as well. lots of us have. be with true freinds and family "real people". get away from anonymity ... its not real . but people are. sorry u left out" MWO PAWG" the MWO part was so u woudnt go to
some "weird" website and would be sent to the faction page instead, and go to the discussion "why new players quit.... " hope I didn't step on your toes using your post as a start point for this general topic "are all MMOs and FPs the same (that was your origional post ... right??)

adamts01 u hit the nail on the head "just except it??" uuummm NO I don't except it at all. people don't need to bully others, its wrong.

dakota1000 U are the exact kind of player ive been discussing "I am teir 1" I cant even imagine the amount of pre mades u have been in to get to that point without pawgs u think u that mutch better than everyone ealse? u didn't notice the thousands of lower level players yer uber OP lance crushed?? u paid how much $$$$$ to get how many mechs in your mech bay ...100 ... 200 ... 300? howd u get all those mech bays FP premade pawgs ?? wow U HAVE SKILL AND THAT REQUIRED TEAM WORK pftttttttttt

sycocs please use "MWO PAWG" not just "PAWG" I cant be held responsible ~!!!!!!

OOOHHH cathy if u re~read your origional post think I hoped in on pg 4 now up to page 16 ive gone over the numbers thrown around. then start this post from the top should make it very clear plz post back. call me a loon or on the money =)


bestegg u too late u haven't read topic or added anything to it remotely about the topic being discussed u saw a post hoped on put in your in put and ... ty for your opinion, it des matter ,)

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:00 AM

Seriously man, less drugs. You've completely lost the plot.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:04 AM

View Postmarcusmaximus55, on 22 January 2018 - 06:57 AM, said:


bestegg u too late u haven't read topic or added anything to it remotely about the topic being discussed u saw a post hoped on put in your in put and ... ty for your opinion, it des matter ,)


No, I posted irrefutable logic that proves you entirely, 100%, wrong. Do feel free to continue the moronic rambling - you're getting more incoherent post by post.


Having played with dakota1000, I can vouch that he is a pilot with excellent skill and game sense. Your baseless attacks are hilariously off-mark at best.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:04 AM

View Postmarcusmaximus55, on 22 January 2018 - 06:57 AM, said:

dakota1000 U are the exact kind of player ive been discussing "I am teir 1" I cant even imagine the amount of pre mades u have been in to get to that point without pawgs u think u that mutch better than everyone ealse? u didn't notice the thousands of lower level players yer uber OP lance crushed?? u paid how much $$$$$ to get how many mechs in your mech bay ...100 ... 200 ... 300? howd u get all those mech bays FP premade pawgs ?? wow U HAVE SKILL AND THAT REQUIRED TEAM WORK pfttttttttt


Surprise, I got to T1 playing solo only, only after I got into T1 did I start doing group matches more commonly and even now they're less than 10% of my matches. Rather than blaming some pawg boogey man I decided to take a look at mistake I'd commonly make and correct those mistakes, then it was an easy ride up to tier 1.

#52 ROSS-128

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:06 AM

It may be petty of me, but if someone can't be bothered to type out "you", I can't be bothered to take them seriously.

#53 Sjorpha

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:09 AM

View PostROSS-128, on 22 January 2018 - 07:06 AM, said:

It may be petty of me, but if someone can't be bothered to type out "you", I can't be bothered to take them seriously.


U wot m8?

Y U no respec srs bzns thread?

#54 Seranov

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:10 AM

View Postsycocys, on 22 January 2018 - 06:57 AM, said:

Sadly I don't think he's a kid. At least by the context he's given, seems to be a full grown adult that adopted the marxist way of thinking.

Gosh darnit everything should be equal for everyone, no matter how much or little effort they put in!


Spoken like a true capitalistic swine! Enjoy gorging yourself on the suffering of the weak, you bourgeois fool! </s>

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:29 AM

ahem Dakota100o u are teir 1 why are u "seeing all the time teir 5 players in training mechs" your statement verifies miss matching .. HORRIBLE MISS MATCHING how is a teir 5 pug supposed to play against a frcken teir1 pro lance in hero mechs ?? and that people is exactly what in saying. hurry say u meant while on alt accunt or trash account (already discussed).
try and think of some other way to say "I didnt mean that , what I actually ment was" the cats out of the bag and MR mittens is running to delete his account.
ahemmm sycocys I never typed that I was any belief , why u try label me litte insecure or a lot?
and gosh darn it if its a F2P game like MWO promotes then why shoulda a new player be stacked up against elite pro players top rank in game? that makes no cents .

Monty Python : hello new students ~!! welcome to your first day of school~!! for lunch u will play rugby against the MASTERS~!!!

even pro teams take from college teams that are familiar with the sport they play prior to going pro . they pactice for years to achieve that goal. would u want to be a freshman rugby team going up against a pro team?

so why does that type of matching happen ever. with a 60,000 + active player base(that's what MWO clams) I coudnt seem to find a "on line player list" thats shows the true numbers (probably way lower with the average wait being how long to match??) shoudnt the sever be able to match same teir players?? isn't that what the teir system is for?? and if that's the case and fo rgt now MWO is saying "its broke again and they trying to fix" or is that jus how it is in this game? forever unbalanced?? or sould I just suck it up and buy that first mech for$ to be competitive in this game ?? F2P pooof ... balance pooooooof.... skilland team play poooofff ... this gave neverhd never willew alpha inc, same scam again, not gonna waste8 hours downloading though
"I must be psychic .... I see more lies from MW .... I see more large lance bans... theres ... and yes they will keep screwing u till yer broke.
at least cathy got to see "weird porn" still sorry about that "MWO PAWG" u have to use the "MWO"

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:39 AM

View Postmarcusmaximus55, on 22 January 2018 - 07:29 AM, said:

ahem Dakota100o u are teir 1 why are u "seeing all the time teir 5 players in training mechs" your statement verifies miss matching .. HORRIBLE MISS MATCHING how is a teir 5 pug supposed to play against a frcken teir1 pro lance in hero mechs ?? and that people is exactly what in saying. hurry say u meant while on alt accunt or trash account (already discussed).
try and think of some other way to say "I didnt mean that , what I actually ment was" the cats out of the bag and MR mittens is running to delete his account.


Tier 1 players can make new accounts that are tier 5! shocking!

Quick Play players do not ever see groups of enemies. You're wrong.

Hero mechs are no better, and often worse, than non-hero mechs. Get good.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:40 AM

View Postmarcusmaximus55, on 22 January 2018 - 07:29 AM, said:

ahem Dakota100o u are teir 1 why are u "seeing all the time teir 5 players in training mechs" your statement verifies miss matching .. HORRIBLE MISS MATCHING how is a teir 5 pug supposed to play against a frcken teir1 pro lance in hero mechs ?? and that people is exactly what in saying. hurry say u meant while on alt accunt or trash account (already discussed).
try and think of some other way to say "I didnt mean that , what I actually ment was" the cats out of the bag and MR mittens is running to delete his account.


So you're just putting quotes around things you said rather than things I said now? Are you arguing with yourself? Just coming up with problems that don't exist to make up for your own failures? I clearly stated that I *DO NOT* find an imbalance in my matches and that the players there can be verified as being near my own leaderboard position.

I do a lot of training for new players, I'll watch their matches and give them tips on how to improve, so I've seen quite a bit of T5 gameplay. I'm all for helping players get better, but the first step is accepting you're bad and having a will to improve.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:47 AM

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:58 AM

I think its gonna blow soon... Do it like me bro, take a break and play something else.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 08:05 AM

View PostBEST EGG, on 22 January 2018 - 07:39 AM, said:

Tier 1 players can make new accounts that are tier 5! shocking!

Quick Play players do not ever see groups of enemies. You're wrong.

Hero mechs are no better, and often worse, than non-hero mechs. Get good.



Deathstrike....


Not exactly an exception, but not a consistent thing either.
Ember, Dragon Slayer, Oxide
They were all the best, at one point, and all Heroes.


The question is: How long with the DeathStrike remain the best mech in the game?



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