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#1 NyxSilence

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:27 AM

I am so done with this. Really pgi? Really? Is this what we're doing? This is the 3rd time I've seen a build like this and it functions. Full laser boat and he alphas the WHOLE GAME and generates 15% heat a volley? No **** that. Fix clan. I'm so tired of this so-called balancing they are doing there.



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#2 Electron Junkie

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:30 AM

You're a little short on the details.
What build are we complaining about?

Edit... the pic finally loaded. Continue complaining.

Edited by Electron Junkie, 01 March 2018 - 08:31 AM.


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:32 AM

15%? REALLY?

#4 B0oN

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:33 AM

Also, that laserburn is still running on the screenie ... did you see those 13 heat each alpha, or just right there in that second where you took the screen ?

I furthermore see a horribly overextended enemy getting blasted which is a good sight ...

#5 NyxSilence

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:34 AM

View PostB0oN, on 01 March 2018 - 08:33 AM, said:

Also, that laserburn is still running on the screenie ... did you see those 13 heat each alpha, or just right there in that second where you took the screen ?

I furthermore see a horribly overextended enemy getting blasted which is a good sight ...



It ended at 15% heat and he repeated this 3 sec later. For real? THis is dumb.

#6 B0oN

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:37 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:



It ended at 15% heat and he repeated this 3 sec later. For real? THis is dumb.


Many players couldn't do jack **** without bandaids like this and also "our" balance overlord decided it was good that way ...

*grins like an advocatus diaboli"

#7 Electron Junkie

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:45 AM

I just want my C-L/M/SPL range back... But PGI reasons T_T

Edited by Electron Junkie, 01 March 2018 - 08:45 AM.


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:46 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 08:27 AM, said:

I am so done with this. Really pgi? Really? Is this what we're doing? This is the 3rd time I've seen a build like this and it functions. Full laser boat and he alphas the WHOLE GAME and generates 15% heat a volley? No **** that. Fix clan. I'm so tired of this so-called balancing they are doing there.


I really doubt he finished at 15%. That's a 35% alpha, I wager.

Unrelated....

Warhammer alpha: 47
Hellbringer 'Standard' alpha (with ECM): 50-64

So, you know... Ok.

#9 NyxSilence

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:51 AM

View PostElectron Junkie, on 01 March 2018 - 08:45 AM, said:

I just want my C-L/M/SPL range back... But PGI reasons T_T



Heat nerf:
https://mwomercs.com...48-23-jan-2018/

Clan ER L nerf:

https://mwomercs.com...43-12-dec-2017/
But ya apparently clan is op.

View PostBombast, on 01 March 2018 - 08:46 AM, said:

I really doubt he finished at 15%. That's a 35% alpha, I wager.

Unrelated....

Warhammer alpha: 47
Hellbringer 'Standard' alpha (with ECM): 50-64

So, you know... Ok.


No. It wasn't I watched it happen. I will wallet warrior this right now, buy gold, and drop all my gxp to prove it

#10 Bombast

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:54 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 08:51 AM, said:

No. It wasn't I watched it happen. I will wallet warrior this right now, buy gold, and drop all my gxp to prove it


I think you're going to be disappointed. My Jester carriers less lasers and roughly the same heat sinks as that build, and it burns hotter than 15%.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:59 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 08:51 AM, said:



Heat nerf:
https://mwomercs.com...48-23-jan-2018/

Clan ER L nerf:

https://mwomercs.com...43-12-dec-2017/
But ya apparently clan is op.



No. It wasn't I watched it happen. I will wallet warrior this right now, buy gold, and drop all my gxp to prove it


Awaiting with anticipation.....at least you'll have a nice whammer after

#12 aardappelianen

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:59 AM

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:01 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 08:27 AM, said:

I am so done with this. Really pgi? Really? Is this what we're doing? This is the 3rd time I've seen a build like this and it functions. Full laser boat and he alphas the WHOLE GAME and generates 15% heat a volley? No **** that. Fix clan. I'm so tired of this so-called balancing they are doing there.



Gasp, 47 points of laser vomit alpha on a cold map, coupled with what most likely is no more than 19 DHS, top speed ~80 kph. Clans are doomed, DOOMED I say!

No, strike that. Actually, bringing that build on a cold map constitutes an EXPLOIT! A bannable offense! Contact PGI support immediately! That player needs to be banned NAO!

#14 Moadebe

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:02 AM

Already made it .... 51% heat on alpha on caustic valley. Grim Plexus is 39% per alpha...

This is with full heat reduction nodes and full operations. 10 double heatsinks, endo-steel structure, and light engine 325. Then of course the weapon setup you see above. Please....get the numbers right first please.

#15 SPNKRGrenth

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:02 AM

This isn't even good bait. Complains about clan laser boating while posting a screen cap of IS laser boating. Claims alpha striking in a hot build generates low heat. I would say nice try, but I'd be lying. Time to try that build in game to see how hot it actually runs.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:08 AM

What I don't get is why the OP thinks such a blatant pile of bull doo is going to pass scrutiny on a forum filled with build experts?

Is he really that crazy biased that he thinks anyone complaining about IS gets a free pass?

#17 NyxSilence

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:08 AM

View PostSPNKRGrenth, on 01 March 2018 - 09:02 AM, said:

This isn't even good bait. Complains about clan laser boating while posting a screen cap of IS laser boating. Claims alpha striking in a hot build generates low heat. I would say nice try, but I'd be lying. Time to try that build in game to see how hot it actually runs.




In the mechlab alone I can make it 1.4. So no. I don't think so.

https://cdn.discorda...18-10.06.15.jpg

View PostSPNKRGrenth, on 01 March 2018 - 09:02 AM, said:

This isn't even good bait. Complains about clan laser boating while posting a screen cap of IS laser boating. Claims alpha striking in a hot build generates low heat. I would say nice try, but I'd be lying. Time to try that build in game to see how hot it actually runs.



Just stop.

#18 Metus regem

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:09 AM

View PostScout Derek, on 01 March 2018 - 08:59 AM, said:

If you hadn't noticed the post was heavy sarcasm because There isn't a single build out there than can pull off 15% heat generated with three ER Large Lasers, and three medium lasers.




Actually it's worse than that, the WHM-6D in that pic is using 4 ERML and 3 ERLL... It's not possible for that warhammer to be running that kit and that cold... there is not enough tonnage or crit space...

Even going with SHS and a 280 LFE the most amount of SHS I could cram in there was 16 in addition to the 10 base, giving this thing a 33% cooling efficiency on Smurfy's...


Ignore the armour balance, it was done just to get the weight of full armour.

WHM-6D

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:10 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 09:08 AM, said:

In the mechlab alone I can make it 1.4. So no. I don't think so.
https://cdn.discorda...18-10.06.15.jpg

Just stop.


You're missing a ERLL.

We're being GOONed, arnt we? Who are you, Meta?

#20 Metus regem

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:12 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 09:08 AM, said:

In the mechlab alone I can make it 1.4. So no. I don't think so.

https://cdn.discorda...18-10.06.15.jpg



Great, now what about that thrid ERLL in the picture that is your first post? That is going to tank your 1.4....





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