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#21 Composite Armour

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:12 AM

Yeah I think Bomb is right. This is one of them chiter G0ONs at their usual antics.

#22 Metachanic

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:12 AM

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We're being GOONed, arnt we? Who are you, Meta?


#23 Roland09

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:13 AM

View PostBombast, on 01 March 2018 - 09:10 AM, said:

You're missing a ERLL.



That, and a few screws, obviously.

#24 NyxSilence

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:13 AM

View PostBombast, on 01 March 2018 - 09:10 AM, said:

You're missing a ERLL.

We're being GOONed, arnt we? Who are you, Meta?


It fell off while I was putting on heat sinks.

https://cdn.discorda...18-10.12.52.jpg

#25 Lances107

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:15 AM

OP as much as I am well aware the IS gets everything handed to them on a silver platter. AKA they did not get there invasion drop deck nerfed, because people in the IS wanted to keep running four roughnecks for there drop deck. You need to play the game more. I made the same mistake a long time ago. Spectator mode is KNOWN to glitch. Especially when your looking at the things like cool down and heat in spectator mode.

#26 Dogstar

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:16 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 09:13 AM, said:


It fell off while I was putting on heat sinks.

https://cdn.discorda...18-10.12.52.jpg


I'm surprised you can even play the game with your pants on fire - maybe you should attend to that first?

#27 Roland09

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:16 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 09:13 AM, said:


It fell off while I was putting on heat sinks.

https://cdn.discorda...18-10.12.52.jpg


Okay, now what about heat when you alpha? 15%?

#28 NyxSilence

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:19 AM

View PostLances107, on 01 March 2018 - 09:15 AM, said:

OP as much as I am well aware the IS gets everything handed to them on a silver platter. AKA they did not get there invasion drop deck nerfed, because people in the IS wanted to keep running four roughnecks for there drop deck. You need to play the game more. I made the same mistake a long time ago. Spectator mode is KNOWN to glitch. Especially when your looking at the things like cool down and heat in spectator mode.


Possibly. IE gauss not showing being charged. If that's the case then IDK. PGI has more to worry about if thats what's going on. Doubtful though.

View PostRoland09, on 01 March 2018 - 09:16 AM, said:


Okay, now what about heat when you alpha? 15%?



I need to own it first. Thus the reason I wish sandbox mode for every single game in existence was a thing. We wouldn't have this problem.

#29 Scout Derek

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:20 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 09:19 AM, said:


Possibly. IE gauss not showing being charged. If that's the case then IDK. PGI has more to worry about if thats what's going on. Doubtful though.




I need to own it first. Thus the reason I wish sandbox mode for every single game in existence was a thing. We wouldn't have this problem.


you don't even need to own the mech.

take a mech that you have that can mount the same weapons and you'll have your results.

#30 NyxSilence

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:22 AM

View PostScout Derek, on 01 March 2018 - 09:20 AM, said:

you don't even need to own the mech.

take a mech that you have that can mount the same weapons and you'll have your results.


I need to own a comparable IS mech to compare. Starting with probably that one when I have 6mil to burn

#31 K O Z A K

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:25 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 09:13 AM, said:


It fell off while I was putting on heat sinks.

https://cdn.discorda...18-10.12.52.jpg


super secret squirrel l33t IS hax hint: you can ram another heat sink in there by moving lazorz from one of the arms to the free slots in LT, and strip 1 ton of armour from that arm

unfortunately it still won't get you anywhere near a 15% alpha, but hey you can totally pwn those underpowered clan mechs with it

#32 Scout Derek

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:26 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 09:22 AM, said:


I need to own a comparable IS mech to compare. Starting with probably that one when I have 6mil to burn


buy a hunchback 4H. can be easily done. just strip armor to get all you need.

#33 Metus regem

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:28 AM

View PostScout Derek, on 01 March 2018 - 09:26 AM, said:

buy a hunchback 4H. can be easily done. just strip armor to get all you need.



Or they could buy a WHM-6D for c-bills and get an apples to apples comparison....

#34 NyxSilence

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:29 AM

View PostHazeclaw, on 01 March 2018 - 09:25 AM, said:


super secret squirrel l33t IS hax hint: you can ram another heat sink in there by moving lazorz from one of the arms to the free slots in LT, and strip 1 ton of armour from that arm

unfortunately it still won't get you anywhere near a 15% alpha, but hey you can totally pwn those underpowered clan mechs with it



1.23 heat.Better But it's not close yet either. More testing and debugging required

Edited by NyxSilence, 01 March 2018 - 09:30 AM.


#35 Zh0u

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:30 AM

Can someone who owns a 6D just load this build and record a video of an alpha strike?

Just to end this argument once and for all.

Edited by Zh0u, 01 March 2018 - 09:30 AM.


#36 El Bandito

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:32 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:

It ended at 15% heat and he repeated this 3 sec later.


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No way those lasers cause only 15% heat.

Edited by El Bandito, 01 March 2018 - 09:34 AM.


#37 Roland09

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:34 AM

View PostKill2Blit, on 01 March 2018 - 09:29 AM, said:

3erLL generate 24 heat, 4ermed 18 for a total of 42. for this to be 15% at alpha, you'd need a heat capacity of 280 (slightly lower cuz of the laser duration but about this). Base heat capacity is 30, plus 2*10 for hs in the engine is 50, leaving you with 230 heat cap left. double hs add 1.5 heat each to the capacity, so you'd need 153 additional sinks for this to be possible. Even with skills this isn't even remotely possible.


Bah, numbers, shmumbers. Your figures don't count, because you clearly are an IS fanboi.

#38 NyxSilence

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:35 AM

View PostKill2Blit, on 01 March 2018 - 09:29 AM, said:

3erLL generate 24 heat, 4ermed 18 for a total of 42. for this to be 15% at alpha, you'd need a heat capacity of 280 (slightly lower cuz of the laser duration but about this). Base heat capacity is 30, plus 2*10 for hs in the engine is 50, leaving you with 230 heat cap left. double hs add 1.5 heat each to the capacity, so you'd need 153 additional sinks for this to be possible. Even with skills this isn't even remotely possible.


OKAY. That being the case: how does he fire 4 times in a row after that? Without stopping/overheating/override? That's where my problem in lies.

#39 Metus regem

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:35 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 09:35 AM, said:


OKAY. That being the case: how does he fire 4 times in a row after that? Without stopping/overheating/override? That's where my problem in lies.



cool shots?

#40 Roland09

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:40 AM

View PostNyxSilence, on 01 March 2018 - 09:35 AM, said:


OKAY. That being the case: how does he fire 4 times in a row after that? Without stopping/overheating/override? That's where my problem in lies.


With skills and quirks, firing four alphas is about the maximum that whammy will be able to get out before needing to cool down or expend a cool shot.





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