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[El Bandito]

https://mwomercs.com...lease-june-19th

Seems the Flea is gonna be tankier than the Locust, while having slightly less agility. Minimal offensive quirks, though there are some nice MG boating options there. I don't think it will be as good as the Piranha though, in terms of lethality.


*edit* Looks like the Flea is even shorter than the Locust. Should be real fun playing it in River City water area.

Edited by El Bandito, 15 June 2018 - 11:55 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

El Bandito, on 15 June 2018 - 01:39 AM, said:

I don't think it will be as good as the Piranha though, in terms of lethality.

I don't think that was ever in the cards, in the first place.

I'll never understand their "Giving machine gun quirks to mechs with the least ballistic hardpoints" though.
It's so god damn stupid...

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 15 June 2018 - 02:12 AM.

[El Bandito]

Juodas Varnas, on 15 June 2018 - 02:10 AM, said:

I don't think that was ever in the cards, in the first place.

I'll never understand their "Giving machine gun quirks to mechs with the least ballistic hardpoints" though.
It's so god damn stupid...

And the MG quirk isn't even that high for mere 2 ballistic point. I'm keep hoping that the IS will get a 20 tonner that can rival the Piranha, but that doesn't seem possible.

Edited by El Bandito, 15 June 2018 - 02:43 AM.

[TWIAFU]

El Bandito, on 15 June 2018 - 01:39 AM, said:

https://mwomercs.com...lease-june-19th

Seems the Flea is gonna be tankier than the Locust, while having slightly less agility. Minimal offensive quirks, though there are some nice MG boating options there. I don't think it will be as good as the Piranha though, in terms of lethality.

Hehe.

It's about farming salt with MGs and laughing maniacally while doing it.

Hope to see Clanners posting "MGs OP, plz nerf" within hours of Flea going live.

It's a goal....

[Blindbeard the Pirate]

If they'd assign quirks like 100% MG RoF that might be something. I was really hoping the flea would have that just for the sake of fire power to heat efficiency. It would make a lot of the inner sphere lights that aren't the wolfhound, urbie and raven a lot scarier.

[Sjorpha]

Juodas Varnas, on 15 June 2018 - 02:10 AM, said:

I don't think that was ever in the cards, in the first place.

I'll never understand their "Giving machine gun quirks to mechs with the least ballistic hardpoints" though.
It's so god damn stupid...

Yeah there is a whole bunch of mechs with this stupid quirk philosophy, let's quirk the single hardpoint that nobody uses so the quirk might as well not exist, then use those redundant quirks as an excuse for not giving it the quirks it would need to compete. So mind bogglingly dumb.

They really need to go over the IS mechs and direct the weapon quirks towards helping the best builds be competitive.

[Weeny Machine]

TWIAFU, on 15 June 2018 - 02:47 AM, said:

Hehe.

It's about farming salt with MGs and laughing maniacally while doing it.

Hope to see Clanners posting "MGs OP, plz nerf" within hours of Flea going live.

It's a goal....

Hardly possible because IS MGs are considerable heavier and each ton counts when it comes to light mechs

And if the Flea really poses a problem...you will see more and more streaks

Edited by Bush Hopper, 15 June 2018 - 05:58 AM.

[Magnus Santini]

El Bandito, on 15 June 2018 - 01:39 AM, said:

https://mwomercs.com...lease-june-19th

Seems the Flea is gonna be tankier than the Locust, while having slightly less agility. . . .

Wow that sounds like a recipe for success. It is going to need ghost damage spreading.

[Tordin]

TWIAFU, on 15 June 2018 - 02:47 AM, said:

Hehe.

It's about farming salt with MGs and laughing maniacally while doing it.

Hope to see Clanners posting "MGs OP, plz nerf" within hours of Flea going live.

It's a goal....

I wouldnt be surpised to see some purist clanners do that.
Remember though that it seemed is purist went full ballistic on the piranha when it was released. Corrections, blamed the poor adaptability of countering lights AND blame the puny mg,s gods forbid that mg could actually be useful..... Cant have that you know Just sad if pgi nerfs mg, flamers and rockets.

[FupDup]

Juodas Varnas, on 15 June 2018 - 02:10 AM, said:

I'll never understand their "Giving machine gun quirks to mechs with the least ballistic hardpoints" though.
It's so god damn stupid...

Their logic is that they want the 2 ballistic hardpoints to not be useless on that variant. Two baseline MGs of any type are borderline useless. Of course PGI's quirk isn't big enough to change this, but I guess the thought counts...

[Juodas Varnas]

FupDup, on 15 June 2018 - 09:04 AM, said:

Their logic is that they want the 2 ballistic hardpoints to not be useless on that variant. Two baseline MGs of any type are borderline useless. Of course PGI's quirk isn't big enough to change this, but I guess the thought counts...

It's still bloody stupid.

Just like the missile quirks on the bloody Grasshoppers that have a single head-mounted missile hardpoint.

[FupDup]

Juodas Varnas, on 15 June 2018 - 09:08 AM, said:

It's still bloody stupid.

Just like the missile quirks on the bloody Grasshoppers that have a single head-mounted missile hardpoint.

Again, the idea is to try to make that head hardpoint actually useful. They failed at that job quite miserably, but it's not a bad idea at face value. I dunno about you, but I don't like useless hardpoints on my gundams.

[Hal Greaves]

TWIAFU, on 15 June 2018 - 02:47 AM, said:

It's about farming salt with MGs and laughing maniacally while doing it.

Really, ya can farm it plenty with 6MG's on their own. I do it in my ACH all the time.

So this will be hilarious all in all.

[Juodas Varnas]

FupDup, on 15 June 2018 - 09:10 AM, said:

Again, the idea is to try to make that head hardpoint actually useful. They failed at that job quite miserably, but it's not a bad idea at face value. I dunno about you, but I don't like useless hardpoints on my gundams.

I'd rather have just 'useless hardpoints' than 'useless hardpoints AND useless quirks"

[FupDup]

Juodas Varnas, on 15 June 2018 - 09:37 AM, said:

I'd rather have just 'useless hardpoints' than 'useless hardpoints AND useless quirks"

I think that a useless hardpoint is more likely to count against the total "power budget" of a mech than a useless quirk. PGI likes to fixate on those on-paper hardpoint counts more than their practical application.

I mean, just look at the Flea quirks this thread was made to reference. Definitely some really crappy ones in there (lol 5% missile spread on a 20-ton light).

[Nightbird]

IS MG laughably bad, the best flea is 5ml+ecm+masc, but too bad it's not cbill bonus woulda bought it.

[JediPanther]

I'll take my Ember with its 25% rof and lasers. Decided the Flea would play too much like my seven locusts so I passed on them. I guess it comes down to a quirk battle between them for people choosing. Here's hoping when I finally get the stinger/wasp it'll been worth the wait.

[Xetelian]

Sjorpha, on 15 June 2018 - 03:19 AM, said:

Yeah there is a whole bunch of mechs with this stupid quirk philosophy, let's quirk the single hardpoint that nobody uses so the quirk might as well not exist, then use those redundant quirks as an excuse for not giving it the quirks it would need to compete. So mind bogglingly dumb.

They really need to go over the IS mechs and direct the weapon quirks towards helping the best builds be competitive.

Worse yet is the few fools that arm their mechs to take advantage of that kind of quirk. Its like its meant to trick people.

[JudauAshta]

Juodas Varnas, on 15 June 2018 - 09:08 AM, said:

It's still bloody stupid.

Just like the missile quirks on the bloody Grasshoppers that have a single head-mounted missile hardpoint.

just wait for thunderbolt missile to be added and it'll be a useful slot

[FupDup]

JudauAshta, on 15 June 2018 - 09:14 PM, said:

just wait for thunderbolt missile to be added and it'll be a useful slot

The only Thunderbolt you'll fit in the head will be the TBolt5, which really doesn't gain much over the normal LRM5 for its 50% increased tonnage.