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[Ahh Screw it - WATCH THIS]

Wow.

The LRM spam is just stupid.

Last LRM (only) boat standing fights, desperately launching their last missiles from their corner-of-the-map hiding spots.

There is no skill involved, and it is not fun.

[KrocodockleTheBooBoxLoader-GetIn]

Lights should be banned from Solaris. Kiting BS. Nerfing clan lasers is unnecessary

Ahh Screw it - WATCH THIS, on 17 July 2018 - 02:24 PM, said:

Wow.

The LRM spam is just stupid.

Last LRM (only) boat standing fights, desperately launching their last missiles from their corner-of-the-map hiding spots.

There is no skill involved, and it is not fun.

LRMs should be nerfd. Either make them direct fire or punish the cowards that take them

[Marius Evander]

iNfUsi0N, on 17 July 2018 - 01:55 PM, said:

Great that you have to compare the 346934693 Mechs on the new Solaris division list with the old one. Even tho the guy that put up the list knew the changes.

PGI *facepalm*

Someone in the community did the work https://www.reddit.c...vision_changes/

[BARRY SHlTPEAS]

Hi PGI.

Thanks for patch. Now could you please un-bugger my Ebon Jaguars as soon as you can.

Thanks.

[Electroflameageddon]

MovinTarget, on 17 July 2018 - 07:51 AM, said:

You can be the rain-er or the rain-ee... as I said before, lrms are the closest we have to pure Darwinism in the game.

Yeah, I understand what you are saying. I have the Stalker 3F, which is extremely LRM friendly.

But it is SO boring to play. Lumber in, get in range, do some spread damage, sometimes kill the indistinct black spot on your screen. Repeat. Oh yeah, "please hold locks"....

[Stinger554]

justcallme A S H, on 15 July 2018 - 08:53 PM, said:

Maybe I need to dig through my screenshots. Pretty sure I have a 700-900 damage games on Solaris City lurking in my folder over the last 2-3 weeks - topping the board of my team.

Hell I have less luck in a brawler on that map lately.

One game out of how many? Is that 700-900 damage a regular occurrence that can be attributed specifically to the weapon system and not related to player skill, yours(being good) or the OpFor(being bad)?

Cadoazreal, on 15 July 2018 - 11:32 PM, said:

JUST for you I played my 2nd whackamole ( lrm ) game that I can remember in over a year, just to make sure it wasn't a anomaly just for you.

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And yeah, i hit heat cap a few times again, so defs need the heat reduction ........ SARCASM

Not solaris, Also why censor the mech? I can pull out a screencap that show 1000+ dam with lrms pre-velocity buff. Does that mean they were broken before?

Do you see the issue with using one cherry-picked screencap to support your point?

Also is that damage specifically attributed to the weapon system or could it have been more attributed to player skill?

[Stinger554]

Jax Endsleigh, on 16 July 2018 - 09:57 PM, said:

lol cover on that map? Not near the crater on that side...

I didn't bother because I already gave up seeing as my team was getting destroyed ._.

There was plenty of cover if you had walked forwards instead of backwards. Also to your left and after you had backed up; there was a boulder that was easy cover to your right.

But sure there was no cover.

[J O B]

Lurmaggedon is not fun. Reverse what you did pgi.

[Horseman]

Krocodockle, on 17 July 2018 - 03:16 PM, said:

Lights should be banned from Solaris. Kiting BS.

Please check your salt at the door. You got outplayed, that happens. We both know there's only one valid response

[Luke Machan]

Good morning,
after updating MWO by last patch, I discovered an issue about EBON family mechs; it seems that when your mech is moving the nose went up to cover lower visual area, and when you stop moving you are able to see full visual again.

According to me it's hard to fight in this way.

PGI, may you check if this issue could be solved, please?

Many thanks, best regards

Edited by Luke Machan, 18 July 2018 - 11:55 AM.

[Jon McFuzzy]

It's out of topic for LRM discussions, but -

It's worth to highlight - the new feature that allow us to go to Testing Grounds with any builds and skill tree config WITHOUT the need to SAVE and subsequently spend C-BILLs AND skill points is EXCELLENT!

We can even test Mechs that we do not own yet - accessible from store.

Edited by Jon McFuzzy, 18 July 2018 - 01:36 AM.

[Drunkenseagull]

I've heard people talking about this patch for days now as some huge lrm buff. The only people this crap is going to benefit are mixed lrm ERLL/ER PPC builds, which is like 1 in 100 mechs, and the ones who sit back with with 80+ tubes relying on other people's locks. Reasonable mixed lrm builds alternate between lrm for range and backups for close, heat is rarely an issue. What I really don't get is they understand the annoyance and issue people have with huge lrm boat's skilless spamming, acknowledge that, and then make a change that really only benefits those mechs.

Don't get me wrong lrms are still crap, 50% of the maps make them 80% useless, crimson or river you might as well leave. Ecm counters locks hard. Ams is overpowered, I've seen 100 tubes+ narc shut down by 4 ams, roughly 45 tons of wep and ammo countered by 6 tons. That is stupid. Oh and escort mode? Again you might as well leave, enemy will sit under ecm flags and half+ your tonnage might as well be, well, lrms.

So yeah lrms are still meh and this is a nerf for responsible lrmers due to clan lrm spread increase which was already atrocious and ams buffs. The ATM3 change? ATMS have been out over a year, how hard ams shuts them down well know, I have atm 15 shadow puss and don't even fire if there's an ams around, this dinky change will make no difference. The one positive thing is the srm heat reduction, it's been too high for too long given you need to deal with ammo and bad weapon spread.

Edited by Drunkenseagull, 18 July 2018 - 12:47 AM.

[Kurbeks]

As PGI said "The core role of the LRM in the greater weapon lineup is to have a ranged DPS weapon option at an economic tonnage investment point". Thus you get high DPS weapon without need to facestare enemy.

[Joshua McEvedy]

Me tarzan, on 17 July 2018 - 12:39 PM, said:

IS anyone else having an issue launching the client? Everything worked fine before the patch, but now the opening splash screen is playing in super slow motion almost black hole time delay slow. And it is NOT using my GPU. I have an nVidia 1050 Ti.

I have removed and re-installed the portal and client 2 times and rebooted between re-installs.

I patched last night, and the game broke completely. Doing a repair re-install right now. Not sure if it will work or not.

What the flying frig, PGI?????

[Mister Maf]

Kurbeks, on 17 July 2018 - 04:49 AM, said:

In Div2 yes, not in Div3. But moving KDK and WarHawk up, but no moving Kcrabs up is just plain stupid and ignorant. Same as not moving up JM6-DD.

Nope, the King Crab 0000, 000B, and the Kaiju are all still definitely in division 3. Meanwhile I spent the cbills from the new season 2 event and the GXP from the season 1 rewards to clone my division 1 Annihilator into division 2 on the KGC-000. It's nonsensical.

Edited by Mister Maf, 18 July 2018 - 02:31 AM.

[burns]

Steve Pryde, on 17 July 2018 - 11:54 AM, said:

I would love to mute warhorns (for me). But yeah, that's just me...

Have´nt tried myself (nothing against warhorns here) but i have a hunch it should work swell. Navigate to your MWO installation directory, go to game folder, open sounds.pak with 7z and either delete the whole warhorn folder, or which would be the cleaner approach imo, only delete all of the .fsb files, according to google those are the ones the sounds are stored in.


Bear in mind though that this could give reason for banhammering in equal amounts as using soundmods does!




As for lurmy patchnotes:

Edited by burns, 18 July 2018 - 05:38 AM.

[Kell Aset]

I haven't seen anything mentioned about it in the patch notes but now that the game got patched I see my fav Shadow Hawk, its camo and srm launchers are all nicely fixed, thank you PGI.



Altho i must say, I'm not a big fan of those new srm4 models here, those things look like some srm5's with 1 "hole" covered, rather weird looking.

Edited by Kell Aset, 18 July 2018 - 08:06 AM.

[Athom83]

V I N CENT, on 17 July 2018 - 08:42 PM, said:

Lurmaggedon is not fun. Reverse what you did pgi.

They didn't do anything major. This is basically what its been but people have chosen not to.

[MovinTarget]

Athom83, on 18 July 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:

They didn't do anything major. This is basically what its been but people have chosen not to.

Anytime they even give LRMs the slightest bump, the boaters come out of the woodwork... That's why many of us that don't even like lrms are flooding the game with them to prove the point that they are abused and to get people to cry about them as much as possible.

If you want them as a deterrent, fine, but LRM90 NovaCats with no backup weapons? Get out of here in QP...

Maybe what they should do is make rewards in QP be well rounded so you can't really get 100% of your cbills/XP w/o performing X out of Y things in a game... It has to be easy enough to accomplish that you can qualify with any mech, but specific enough that "sit in the back and do nothing but fire missiles" won't cut it.

[Bluttrunken]

All the LRM boats prove exactly nothing. If people would have done that before the patch it would have looked exactly as it does now.  If you try to play against it like people usually do, taking cover, peeking and slowly pushing you're in for a bad round. The buff, if any, wasn't even that big. Why have LRM's never been picked up in comp play? Because a coordinated team can easily counter boated LRM's and small numbers of LRM mechs aren't that effective and usually lost tonnage.

As it is now, the team with the heaviest boats wins, as all teams are probably littered with LRM boats.

The only thing you do is chasing away players which either a) don't want to take part in your ridiculous strike b ) don't know about it anyway. If you want to ruin the fun for everybody and bring this game closer to the brink, have fun, you're on a good way.

There's no such thing than talking about it like mature people? Numbers, data, analytical proof? I'll sit this out and won't play for a week or something. Cya.

Edited by Bluttrunken, 18 July 2018 - 09:22 AM.