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[PobbestGob]

Grottenolm, on 02 August 2018 - 02:37 AM, said:

The only thing that match the original is the machinegun-array in his fist and the shoulder-SSRM.
The shoulderplates are much smaller, no hip-plates, the torsohardpoints are spread around, new jumpjets on the back and no plate behind the head.
And: Yes, the small old head was not quite realistic but it is the main design that represent the look of a mech. Changing the head means changing the whole design.

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many of the original BT designs are flimsy, outlandish, ugly, or absurd. compare pgi's king crab to the original artwork for example. good on pgi for updating the originals in a way that makes a scrap of sense, while maintaining the spirit of the originals.

[BMKA]

Nice try PGI, but no.

I wont buy it until you fix the game :

-Balance
-new maps (?)
-new game modes (?)
etc.

[Runecarver]

Looks nothing like the original Vapor Eagle, barely resembles the reseen Vapor Eagle. Took far too many visual cues from the Goshawk 2, particularly the Goshawk 2 RISC artwork, which was an entirely new mech based on the Vapor Eagle but 10 tons lighter.



when it should in actuality be more based on this:

[Bluttrunken]

That artwork is pretty damn ugly, you sure it should look more like that?

Btw PGI, still waiting for a decent, new IS mech, the Champion looks pretty DOA to me(saved by quirks mayhaps, but I don't preorder based on quirks).

[KursedVixen]

Bluttrunken, on 02 August 2018 - 05:20 AM, said:

That artwork is pretty damn ugly, you sure it should look more like that?

Btw PGI, still waiting for a decent, new IS mech, the Champion looks pretty DOA to me(saved by quirks mayhaps, but I don't preorder based on quirks).

You don't need anymore mechs....

[Grayson Sortek]

I've been skipping almost all of the new releases to try and be good about spending money. My fiancee really does appreciate it lol. However, this is the first time in a long time that I'm seriously considering it... I really want to know what Kanajashi thinks.

P.S. PGI: In EVERY video he suggests a discount for getting the ultimate bundle, you should REALLY listen to him.

[Ch_R0me]

InnerSphereNews, on 01 August 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

https://mwomercs.com/vapor-eagle

Now some personal opinion.

Plus:

• Design. So frickin' awesome. The best so far.

Cons:

• It's medium, but some may see it as a plus, so, I wonder if it would be useful in FP scouting.
  
• Non-Omni Mech
  
• Geared as Duelist
  
• Not going to catch up Assasin

I'm not telling it's a bad Mech, it's just... meh to me, despite the awesome look.

[Ruccus]

Runecarver, on 02 August 2018 - 05:16 AM, said:

Looks nothing like the original Vapor Eagle, barely resembles the reseen Vapor Eagle. Took far too many visual cues from the Goshawk 2, particularly the Goshawk 2 RISC artwork, which was an entirely new mech based on the Vapor Eagle but 10 tons lighter.

Doing some googling it looks like over a decade ago Wizkids took the Goshawk II RISC design in your first pic and used it for their Goshawk figure, and that might be what the MWO design is based on.

Considering the Goshawk II RISC was an experimental mech made in 3136 I don't have a huge problem using the design for the Vapor Eagle. It looks cool and otherwise wouldn't be in the game, and it could be argued that allowing Wizkids to use that design made it canon for MWO to use as a basis for the Vapor Eagle in this instance.

Edited by Ruccus, 02 August 2018 - 08:16 AM.

[TooDumbToQuit]

I'm so tired of buying packs that they really do not have 5 builds for so they come up with crap like the JVN-10N that is set up to be a LURMER!

Look at the ASN-27. It is better than the Hero (ASN-DD) but I can't sell the freaking Hero.

My Mechlab is littered with 20 plus mechs I'd just destroy for a mech bay. Or a sandwich.

At least TRY to make the Hero Mech one of the "better ones".

[Akillius]

Its a big departure from original, but as pointed out its somewhat close to the later one.
Vapor Eagle (Goshawk) http://www.sarna.net..._Eagle_(Goshawk)

But its close enough for me... except the lack of shoulder-pad/wing-thingys or whatever those are called.
Even if just doubling the length and angle +25 degrees downwards more.

Here's a rough bashed together example of what I'm trying to describe:
https://prnt.sc/kdwcou

Edited by Max Rickson, 02 August 2018 - 08:35 AM.

[Jesse Custer]

Grayson Sortek, on 02 August 2018 - 06:53 AM, said:

P.S. PGI: In EVERY video he suggests a discount for getting the ultimate bundle, you should REALLY listen to him.

Yup. Even $5 off makes a big psychological difference.

[Dran Dragore]

oh, and PGI: yes, the Hero doesnt trigger me to buy. MASC is nice, but whats the matter when you dont have the Guns? It would be a good Brawler if he gets 1-2 more Missile Hardpoints.

[Dee Eight]

If they'd given the Hero ECM also... then it'd be a good step up from a shadow cat.

[Grayson Sortek]

Jesse Custer, on 02 August 2018 - 08:29 AM, said:

Yup. Even $5 off makes a big psychological difference.

With everything else that goes on sale... you would think they would have the business savvy to understand the benefits of a top tier discount. Jesus, I'm in the HVAC industry (making louvers and dampers) and we do it all the time!

[DisasterTheory]

Release 3 to 4 GOOD maps over the next 6 months and ill spend more money on your game. Until then? Not a dime.

And that crap about if taking a year to build a map and cost around 250k is total BS. If it's taking that much time and money to build a Map environment then fire your environment creator.

Procedural map generation is what you need to invest in. Every battle on a new random environment. No more "meta" battle strategies.

[Aramuside]

That is one stunning looking hero mech ... presuming the actual mech looks the same of course.

[Alpha Vega]

Mommy said we have to save money to get daddy out of jail. So I'm washing cars to get money to buy it and my sister is walking the street to help.

[FireStoat]

MurghSharduk, on 02 August 2018 - 02:22 AM, said:

About Clan nerfs and Faction War:

https://mwomercs.com...oming-podcasts/

Thank you very much for linking that. I would have missed it otherwise. As long as PGI is keeping their sanity in relation to Clan mechs with sharply limited options for pod space and hardpoints (Black Lanner, Ice Ferret, etc) and what energy weapon adjustments would do to them, then that is stellar news.

[DFM]

Max Rickson, on 02 August 2018 - 08:26 AM, said:

Its a big departure from original, but as pointed out its somewhat close to the later one.
Vapor Eagle (Goshawk) http://www.sarna.net..._Eagle_(Goshawk)

But its close enough for me... except the lack of shoulder-pad/wing-thingys or whatever those are called.
Even if just doubling the length and angle +25 degrees downwards more.

Here's a rough bashed together example of what I'm trying to describe:
https://prnt.sc/kdwcou

Much better. Add in a little more size to the hip plates, add the "neckboard" and it's a much better design than the original imo.

Which isn't saying much because quite frankly most of the "new" art for mechs back then were plain janky.

[Mighty Spike]

da fuq is that? The newest ego shooter game charakter or the newest japano kiddi pokemon thingy ??? Even gifted i wouldnt take that kiddie thingy.
CCRUUUUUUUSADER gime gimme gimme gimme