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#61 TWIAFU

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 04:33 PM

View PostGrus, on 08 August 2018 - 04:10 PM, said:

Because some of us are loyalists... thats why...

They should dish out a bouns for the length of time youve been with a faction for these events.


Agreed.

What if, once you hit Rank 20, you started to re-rank to 20 again. Each time you "leveled up" to a new rank, you were granted a perm 1% bonus to XP? GXP?, something. Make it additive. So upon Rank 20 you were at a 20% bonus.

Choice of Hero Mech at Re-rank 10 and 20?

Unlimited use of Faction specific Camo at Rank 20? Granted Faction Colors at 10? Faction Warhorns? Banners? Decals?

There are a great many Faction items out there to make re-ranking to 20 'worth' it. Could grant some of the older Loyalty Variants from years past.

#62 Gully D

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 05:01 PM

View PostBwah Ha Ha, on 08 August 2018 - 05:03 AM, said:

I would adjust my drop deck before I clicked in, no reason to have everyone else wait longer.


It was great that we knew the mode so pre choosing a drop deck was easier.

Having said that, some of us choose different decks depending if the map was cold/hot or open/closed etc.

Many players had only 2 drop decks (being new) and some of us dont want to spend the MC.

If the call to arms went out asap when someone was in lobby ie at 10 min, then a 2 min wait is minimal.

This is especially important against premades. If they get 10 min to plan for their drop deck and the pugs only 1min then organising strategy is near impossible.

The snowball effect (PGI developers may know already) is that pugs become further discouraged and therefore we lose necessary entrants to FW for the gradual decline in numbers to keep this (BEST) part of MWO going.

#63 Major Major Catch 22

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 05:15 PM

Thanks PGI

Please do more. Best thing is the lack of salt of who is more/less OP.

Also could it also be possible to have cue times reduced and planning times for the insta lobbies (1mintimer) increased, us puggles really need it against the premades!

Any chance of a Dropdeck sale?

Pls keep up the good work.

#64 Luca M Pryde

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 09:57 PM

See yous' on the battlefield!

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 10:24 PM

View PostC337Skymaster, on 07 August 2018 - 05:28 PM, said:


Most of the objectives were accomplished in a drop or two for most Kuritan participants, but the objectives (Victories, especially), took much longer, or were outright impossible, for Davion. Of 7 drops I had time to play during the Assault phase, I won only one single match, and not by capturing their base (so we didn't get that reward, which came with an MC prize, and was one of the few actually worth getting).


I lost one game outta 24 I think I played. Sometimes in a group no larger than 6 players, even against 12man teams. Granted that isn't possible for everyone, but there is no reason to love 7 drops in a row.

A lot of peoples issues are the builds they bring. I mean a Phoenix Hawk with a Large Laser, Med Laser and Machine Guns for Alpine Peaks? People who do that are pretty much asking to be chopped up as it's not a competitive build at all.

Hopefully people out there running such builds have a bit of a think before this weekend and put some effort into it. It will improve their enjoyment a significant amount.

I gave advice to a few players over the week and most were able to have many wins and many games over 1500dmg even against 12mans while dropping in a 2-3man group... Key point - They ran decent builds

Edited by justcallme A S H, 08 August 2018 - 10:25 PM.


#66 Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 02:50 AM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 08 August 2018 - 10:24 PM, said:

A lot of peoples issues are the builds they bring. I mean a Phoenix Hawk with a Large Laser, Med Laser and Machine Guns for Alpine Peaks? People who do that are pretty much asking to be chopped up as it's not a competitive build at all.

I gave advice to a few players over the week and most were able to have many wins and many games over 1500dmg even against 12mans while dropping in a 2-3man group... Key point - They ran decent builds


thing is: the build you describe is THE lore build on a phoenix.
a lot (most to all?) of people start playing mwo because of the battletech lore.
so.. no surprise to see lore-builds during events - especially from new people.

I remember 2 years ago freaking out when I saw my first srm-only griffin. a mech known for it's longrange weapons in lore. Posted Image


ofc you're right; [decent builds x12] make or brake many/most games. just saying it's not easy for the beginners to get to that point, which means accepting mwo has little to do with battletech;
looking at my warhammers.. - veeeery little Posted Image

Edited by Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, 09 August 2018 - 02:54 AM.


#67 Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 03:02 AM

oh, and:

fun events PGI, keep it up Posted Image
(maybe adjust some things like the turretkills though..)

and this would be the perfect time to put those dropdecks on sale *hint*
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(also mugs, banners, warhorns etc for those active factions)

Edited by Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, 09 August 2018 - 03:03 AM.


#68 Galenthor Kerensky

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 07:58 AM

View PostMajor Major Catch 22, on 08 August 2018 - 05:15 PM, said:

Thanks PGI

Please do more. Best thing is the lack of salt of who is more/less OP.

Also could it also be possible to have cue times reduced and planning times for the insta lobbies (1mintimer) increased, us puggles really need it against the premades!

Any chance of a Dropdeck sale?

Pls keep up the good work.



Eggcellent idea!

#69 KursedVixen

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 08:51 AM

Filthy Crusader, I will trim your talons!

Edited by KursedVixen, 09 August 2018 - 08:52 AM.


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 09:14 AM

View PostKursedVixen, on 09 August 2018 - 08:51 AM, said:

Filthy Crusader, I will trim your talons!



Except glorious Clan Wolf IS crusader by this point in time. Run back to the Inner Sphere little freebirth.

#71 Khalcruth

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 09:43 AM

So the Clan event gets more days, and better rewards each day. Typical.

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 09:49 AM

View PostKhalcruth, on 09 August 2018 - 09:43 AM, said:

So the Clan event gets more days, and better rewards each day. Typical.



No the IS event had better rewards . That's a shweet emerald cicada .

Yay I found an announcement error . Both day 4 and 5 have jade falcon theme prizes . I assume one of those days should be Clan Wolf prizes ? XD

Edited by DarkFhoenix, 09 August 2018 - 09:55 AM.


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 10:23 AM

1.) Looking forward to the event. GG PGI, about time we got some more community warfare stuff.
2.) Should have made the 'mech in the picture a Summoner. Or a Turkina.
3.) Add the Turkina to the game already.
4.) Add the Phoenix Hawk IIC first.

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 10:26 AM

View PostGully D, on 08 August 2018 - 05:01 PM, said:


It was great that we knew the mode so pre choosing a drop deck was easier.

Having said that, some of us choose different decks depending if the map was cold/hot or open/closed etc.

Many players had only 2 drop decks (being new) and some of us dont want to spend the MC.

If the call to arms went out asap when someone was in lobby ie at 10 min, then a 2 min wait is minimal.

This is especially important against premades. If they get 10 min to plan for their drop deck and the pugs only 1min then organising strategy is near impossible.

The snowball effect (PGI developers may know already) is that pugs become further discouraged and therefore we lose necessary entrants to FW for the gradual decline in numbers to keep this (BEST) part of MWO going.

View PostMajor Major Catch 22, on 08 August 2018 - 05:15 PM, said:

Thanks PGI

Please do more. Best thing is the lack of salt of who is more/less OP.

Also could it also be possible to have cue times reduced and planning times for the insta lobbies (1mintimer) increased, us puggles really need it against the premades!

Any chance of a Dropdeck sale?

Pls keep up the good work.


I see what you did there.

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 10:39 AM

View PostBwah Ha Ha, on 08 August 2018 - 05:03 AM, said:

I would adjust my drop deck before I clicked in, no reason to have everyone else wait longer.


Which is fine if you are in a group of even 4 or more players on team speak with experience, the new guys not so much. It's ok for me, 140 mechs and 4 drop decks usually means i can find an appropriate deck, a new guy might have a dozen if he's lucky and 2 decks.

On the other hand if you take an assault and a couple of hellbringers you probably can't go wrong anywhich way.

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 11:49 AM

View PostEisenhorne, on 08 August 2018 - 06:20 AM, said:


I don't really understand the Loyalist mindset.... if you need to have an in-lore explanation, can't you just pretend you're an allied auxiliary force? I am (was?) a member of HHoD... I created a new unit for the purposes of these events, called DEXF... Davion Expeditionary Forces. I went Kurita for a while in Kurita vs Davion, just told people I was a deep cover spy, then at the end switched back to Davion to help the war effort. It was fun, got to play some people I am usually on the same side with.

With the Jade Falcon vs Wolf thing, its gonna be a similar thing, the Jade Falcons have asked for (and received) some additional personnel to help in their war against the Wolves, and in return will trade technological secrets that will help NAIS develop new weapons. Boom, lorified. You can justify pretty much anything here. its not like it's forever, I'll probably be a loyalist Davion again at some point.

You gotta accept that the population of this game is not large enough for everyone at all times to have faction events that involve their specific faction. There are too many different groups, and not enough players in most of them.



Pushing the last of the players to do what they dont want to do is just going to make less players. We started with more buckets and more players. There were no "off nights" when we started. PGI pushed all these players away and they continue to do it.


There is 100% no reason everyone can't play fp when an event is going on other than bad programming.

There is no reason A faction couldn't fight for one side or the other as a merc group without changing flags.
Reward people for helping in these events don't force them.

Mercs and loyalist should not share the same leader boards.

Number one issue with CW is giving people a reason not to play the mode.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 09 August 2018 - 11:51 AM.


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 12:51 PM

View PostD V Devnull, on 07 August 2018 - 04:10 PM, said:

=== Initial Pre-Event Review ===


*facedesk* Posted Image

Well, PGI's Event Handlers, I can see you're not listening to one of the things the Player Base had spent time on Previous Events to try to get across to you. Your Player Base does NOT like being 'Pressure Cooked' with short Time Limits, as well as the effects it has on human minds and bodies, and you've been told plenty enough to have 48-Hour Minimums for each and every Phase/'Day' of an Event. I (and many others) can only hope you've learned some other lessons from the "Kurita vs. Davion" Event and all the problems that were degrading upon it. Frankly, since you're bent on such short Time Limits, check your Challenges carefully and keep them realistic, or start listening to your MWO Community about having 48-Hour Minimum Time Allocations for every Phase/'Day' of any Event you happen to do. Posted Image

For the moment, I'll start this off with an Event Rating of...

7.5/10

...because of this "stuck on 24-Hour Limits" mentality which I see you're unwilling to get off of, and we'll see where it goes from there. Posted Image


~Mr. D. V. "I've finally hit the point of being a 'Zero Punctuation'-Variety Critic... sans the foul language..." Devnull





[Edit by Post Author due to fighting with Formatting Insanity in the above Quote...]



why do u always have to have some random quote that quips yourself in every entry? Its kinda…...meh

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 01:31 PM

War of refusal time

Arty on Ulric Kerensky !

Lets do this !!!!

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 01:40 PM

View PostDarkFhoenix, on 09 August 2018 - 09:49 AM, said:



No the IS event had better rewards . That's a shweet emerald cicada .

Yay I found an announcement error . Both day 4 and 5 have jade falcon theme prizes . I assume one of those days should be Clan Wolf prizes ? XD


Actually the link for the 5th day is incorrectly showing the 4th day event page.

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 01:51 PM

Will those gamemodes be the only ones then playable on the certain day? Or at least more likely to get chosen?
Because time is very limited when it s just 1 day to complete a challenge.





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