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#1 InvictusLee

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 03:34 PM

So im a little behind. Ive been away working for a while.
Ive tried to keep up with the updates but that doesnt tell me much about in game gameplay.

So how has the game been treating you guys? Well i hope?
I'm really hoping the game is getting better instead of winding down into oblivion.
What have PUG Queues been like recently? Same old randoms drunkenly piloting slow mechs to the center of the map? Be honest and serious, id genuinely like to how how PGI is doing and how the game is expanding or shrinking.

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 04:01 PM

You know what? I stepped away for a about a week+ and came back a couple of times over the last few days, and honestly had some very enjoyable matches. Some were actually remarkably close, and some were total wipes. But hitreg and performance seemed to be in a good spot.

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 04:09 PM

I only play events anymore.... Sorry, the game isn't what it once was. Still a little fun; now and again. everyone I know and was on a team with is gone.....??

Status: Over-mature, Brown ocean small niche; declining population and stagnated development because of MW5.....which, may not meet anyone's expectations.......sigh.

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 04:11 PM

View PostNovember11th, on 31 October 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

So im a little behind. Ive been away working for a while.
Ive tried to keep up with the updates but that doesnt tell me much about in game gameplay.

So how has the game been treating you guys? Well i hope?
I'm really hoping the game is getting better instead of winding down into oblivion.
What have PUG Queues been like recently? Same old randoms drunkenly piloting slow mechs to the center of the map? Be honest and serious, id genuinely like to how how PGI is doing and how the game is expanding or shrinking.


My Summary:
General consensus, based on subjective evidence, is that MWO user pool is shrinking month over month. Group Queue wait times are excessive, same people seen over and over again in solo queue, OMG the STEAM CHARTS!!! etc used as evidence

The most recent patch did some -- interesting things to heat dissipation which was meant to limit/nerf the "evil" Clan Laser vomit but...actually seems to have had kinda the opposite effect. Funny enough though this might actually be bringing back some players because while it's pretty ridiculous it's at least a FUN kind of ridiculous which we haven't had for a while.

Heavies are still probably the best bet mech followed by Assaults and Mediums, lights are largely useless apart from a few outliers (which means there is a LOT of moaning about that outlier atm)

That's about all i know, I haven't been able to play much recently due to injury but from watching the (remaining) mwo streamers and reading the forms this is my understanding of how things are. so this is, at best, second hand knowledge.

Edited by R5D4, 31 October 2018 - 04:13 PM.


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Posted 31 October 2018 - 04:21 PM

Trollin trollin trollin, lets keep this puppy trollin along... HEE HAW

#6 InvictusLee

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 04:41 PM

View PostAsym, on 31 October 2018 - 04:09 PM, said:

I only play events anymore.... Sorry, the game isn't what it once was. Still a little fun; now and again. everyone I know and was on a team with is gone.....??

Status: Over-mature, Brown ocean small niche; declining population and stagnated development because of MW5.....which, may not meet anyone's expectations.......sigh.
I totally feel you there but im really hoping against hope that PGI can get their **** together once MW5 runs out of hype and people start returning to MWO. Im really hoping MWO will experince a renassaunce and resurgents in player growth.

View PostJackal Noble, on 31 October 2018 - 04:01 PM, said:

You know what? I stepped away for a about a week+ and came back a couple of times over the last few days, and honestly had some very enjoyable matches. Some were actually remarkably close, and some were total wipes. But hitreg and performance seemed to be in a good spot.
fantastic bro! Thanks for the info!

View PostR5D4, on 31 October 2018 - 04:11 PM, said:


My Summary:
General consensus, based on subjective evidence, is that MWO user pool is shrinking month over month. Group Queue wait times are excessive, same people seen over and over again in solo queue, OMG the STEAM CHARTS!!! etc used as evidence

The most recent patch did some -- interesting things to heat dissipation which was meant to limit/nerf the "evil" Clan Laser vomit but...actually seems to have had kinda the opposite effect. Funny enough though this might actually be bringing back some players because while it's pretty ridiculous it's at least a FUN kind of ridiculous which we haven't had for a while.

Heavies are still probably the best bet mech followed by Assaults and Mediums, lights are largely useless apart from a few outliers (which means there is a LOT of moaning about that outlier atm)

That's about all i know, I haven't been able to play much recently due to injury but from watching the (remaining) mwo streamers and reading the forms this is my understanding of how things are. so this is, at best, second hand knowledge.
You know Ive been watching Kanajashi lately in a MADIIC just wrecking face with laser vomit and i gotta say my eyes both rolled and I lol'd at PGI's attempt at balance but im actually looking forward to playing because of this lol. Thanks for the update man! o7.

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 05:55 PM

feels like its on life support. inability to find players in the 2v2 solaris event was rather disappointing. game quality in qp is pretty bad right now. fp is mostly dead but the event is really helping to fix that. unfortunately those are few and far between. seems to be a lot of events right now and i wonder if pgi isnt using them as a last ditch attempt to maintain current populations.

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 05:58 PM

View PostNovember11th, on 31 October 2018 - 04:41 PM, said:

You know Ive been watching Kanajashi lately in a MADIIC just wrecking face with laser vomit and i gotta say my eyes both rolled and I lol'd at PGI's attempt at balance but im actually looking forward to playing because of this lol. Thanks for the update man! o7.


Yeah that last patch seems to be occupying that special place where it's so bad it's good lol
But hey if it gets some people to come back and look that's fine by me.

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 07:04 PM

View PostLordNothing, on 31 October 2018 - 05:55 PM, said:

feels like its on life support. inability to find players in the 2v2 solaris event was rather disappointing. game quality in qp is pretty bad right now. fp is mostly dead but the event is really helping to fix that. unfortunately those are few and far between. seems to be a lot of events right now and i wonder if pgi isnt using them as a last ditch attempt to maintain current populations.
i wouldnt be supprised. Why even throw mechcon when the game is struggling to survive? Sounds like someone at PGI's planning dept has been doing too many lines of *******.

View PostR5D4, on 31 October 2018 - 05:58 PM, said:

But hey if it gets some people to come back and look that's fine by me.
same here man, same here lol.


lol you cant say cokcaine?

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 07:19 PM

View PostNovember11th, on 31 October 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

i wouldnt be supprised. Why even throw mechcon when the game is struggling to survive? Sounds like someone at PGI's planning dept has been doing too many lines of *******.

same here man, same here lol.


lol you cant say cokcaine?


hell you cant even say ***** err k n o b s. i didn't even know that was slang for something. must be a canadian thing. i always assumed they were those things you turn to open doors and make your stereo louder. you mentioned lines and that was enough for me to know what it was.

anyway pgi only needs to keep this game alive until they see a return on investment from mw5. then they can squander the profits on their next half assed conception.

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 07:21 PM

Well in lighter news, the ATM thread got haijacked and has become a fun haiku thread which makes me giggle like the joker if he had any bass in his voice.

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 09:01 PM

This is strange. Game definitely feels like it has one leg and half of its torso in the grave, but it's still stupidly fun to play, at least in QP that is.

Regarding queue, with FP events it got a bit harder to find QP match quick, which I'm personally happy about, since I'll be taking a break till Nov 15 or so, got a little burned out lately. But yeah, despite all issues, it's still good. Even latest update which brought faster heat dissipation and lowered TTK hard, I somehow came to enjoy it.

#13 InvictusLee

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 09:24 PM

See. This is what i like. Constructive criticism. xD.

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 10:00 PM

I spend most of my time watching streamers (yeah crazy)
skilling up new mechs has kept me playing (I grind all my Mechs)but I ran out of mechs I would
want to buy

haven't even read the last two patch notes
FP is ok if you can get some drops in
I do some weapons testing in QP
every things seems about normal

and I was just thinking they should have hundreds of players joining the game weekly

snafu is the military term

Edited by Davegt27, 31 October 2018 - 10:03 PM.


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Posted 01 November 2018 - 12:18 AM

Dropped into a match with 23 new names, was pleasantly surprised. There was a cringe moment with someone using third person but hey, new faces.

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 01:44 AM

Game hasn't changed much at all since BETA, still has the problems it had, still has terrible terrain hitboxes, still only released mechs as new content and delays them for half a year behind paywalls, still thinks "making barely a few changes is called balance and patching".
Cibills economy is great though, no complaints there, and we do get to earn MC through events so we can buy MechBays when they're on discount :)
So aside from PGI's greed and laziness to do anything, the economy is great :)

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 02:28 AM

View PostNovember11th, on 31 October 2018 - 07:21 PM, said:

Well in lighter news, the ATM thread got haijacked and has become a fun haiku thread which makes me giggle like the joker if he had any bass in his voice.


Status of the game?
All LRMs and laser vomit.
And the fish of course.

Seriously, since the last patch that is about all I see being played, with a few MCII-bs every once in a while.

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 05:38 AM

View PostBud Crue, on 01 November 2018 - 02:28 AM, said:

Status of the game?
All LRMs and laser vomit.
And the fish of course.

Seriously, since the last patch that is about all I see being played, with a few MCII-bs every once in a while.


Still plenty of HGR/LBX10 Fafnirs and Annis around too, post patch. Fafnirs in particular seem pretty common.

One new one seen post patch too - the Triple HPPC Awesome. Seen more 8Qs in the last 2 weeks than I've probably seen in the previous 2 years. A lot of them even seem.... decent.


Sidenote question - Has anyone else noticed that the game has gotten noticeably more Assault oriented Post Patch? I used to see more heavies on the field than assaults, but post patch, that trend seems to have reversed. (Lights and mediums, as always, are relatively uncommon, except for the fish.)

Edited by Daurock, 01 November 2018 - 05:39 AM.


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Posted 01 November 2018 - 06:20 AM

View PostDaurock, on 01 November 2018 - 05:38 AM, said:


Still plenty of HGR/LBX10 Fafnirs and Annis around too, post patch. Fafnirs in particular seem pretty common.

One new one seen post patch too - the Triple HPPC Awesome. Seen more 8Qs in the last 2 weeks than I've probably seen in the previous 2 years. A lot of them even seem.... decent.


Sidenote question - Has anyone else noticed that the game has gotten noticeably more Assault oriented Post Patch? I used to see more heavies on the field than assaults, but post patch, that trend seems to have reversed. (Lights and mediums, as always, are relatively uncommon, except for the fish.)


Yeah, I couldn’t fit dual heavy gauss rifle builds along with the rest into my haiku though, but yeah, the dual HGR builds are certainly still present. I haven’t noticed any LBX builds. The 3HPPC builds only lasted for a few days, been absent in GQ since the last weekend in my games. So for the purposes of the OP’s question I’ll stick with my generality that the game is dominated at the moment by LRMs, Laser Vomit, the Piranha, and your addition of dual HGR.

As to your question, hell yes. Even in GQ smaller groups are all running mostly Assaults, and when they are large groups most seem to be doing the mostly Assaults and piranhas (with an occasional Commando).

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 07:54 AM

I haven't played much this year, just haven't had as much interest. I did play several matches for the Halloween event. The game feels the same as before to me. Match quality doesn't feel better or worse in QP. This game has really never evolved much beyond QP. I don't care much for Solaris so I don't play it and faction play is really only good in a group with optimized mechs.

Honestly though, each year, we get more powerful mechs and weapons that screw up balance. I think the game was more fun back in simpler times. Maybe it's just lost the freshness factor. I don't know. I'm honestly more of a single player person myself so we'll see how MW5 goes.

Many players have complained or left due to balance issues but those don't really bother me. I mix and match what I play so much that I'm not keyed into specific balance changes at all.





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