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[Xeno Phalcon]

MWO is like that action figure you always wanted as a kid - but when you finally got it you were told you could only play with it inside a shoebox. Sure it was fun for a while, still can be fun now and then - but at the end of the day, a shoebox is small, constrained and smells vaguely of feet so you grow tired of it quite quickly in the grand scheme of things.

[Novakaine]

Well since playing this game from closed beta I can truly say this one thing.
And loving Battletech since I picked up my first boxed set in 1984.
"It's better than nothing."

[Alan Hicks]

When things can go really bad during a match and there's always a high possibility for that to happen, it's good to concentrate in the alternatives the game offers.

Despite the bad mech skill tree, its fun to build your mech, and also put all those virtual trinkets in the cockpit. If they sound good, war-horns are always something motivating. Colors, patterns and adding decals are a plus. Bolt-ons, well I think that's a little too far.

In a way PGI has expanded the customization possibilities like no other previous game.

[Sable Dove]

Superior to what? It has basically no competition.

[LordBraxton]

The core of MWO, ala closed beta, was the greatest battletech game ever made.

Then apparently all of the talent left the project because, other than netcode, it has all been downhill since closed beta.

That core was so good though that its still an OK game today after all of the downgrades and mismanagement and power creep.

[Y E O N N E]

Inatu Elimor, on 14 November 2018 - 12:57 PM, said:

So why you still playing ? Also, you break the rules of my former post. It's okay. In democracy we listen to each other.
Obviously you don't.

The rules are not yours to set, hope that helps.

[Phyrce]

Inatu Elimor, on 14 November 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

Yes, like you I can be salty at times. MM sucks, balance sucks, mechs sucks, team sucks etc.
But the saltiness is prove of your very commitment to the game.
I have not experienced a game sofar that carves out more your very "warrior" individuality.
What works for me, doesn't necessarily work for you.

Because MWO wants you to understand your capabilities, and more important, those you don't have.

Yes, to understand this takes time, effort, experience. It's confronting you with yourself. Painfull at times.

But that's why I like MWO somuch.

This thread is meant for all who have to say somethig positive about it.

Keep MWO alive !

cheers,

Inatu

My dedication is to the universe, not the game. I have been active on the forums but haven't played more than a dozen matches in 3 months. The majority of my play time has been in the mechlab and testing mechs. I find almost 0 enjoyment when trying to play quick play at this point. I am salty, but if MWO shut down tomorrow I would shrug (even after nearly $1000 invested.) and wait for MW5.

[FupDup]

I will acknowledge that the base/core mechanics of robot fighting in this game are some of the best in the MW series and giant robot games in general. If these mechanics truly sucked then even the most adamant neckbeards and grognards would have gotten sick of it by now (they haven't).

However, the stuff layered on top of those base mechanics, like balancing and game modes, are still lacking. It's just that the base mechanics are good enough to overcompensate for those flaws.

[Tarl Cabot]

Jables McBarty, on 14 November 2018 - 02:22 PM, said:

In the end, the software developers. They own (or lease) the IP rights, they get to make the decisions. That's how capitalism works (or doesn't, depending on where you're standing).

If the backers wanted a real say, they should have demanded ownership stakes in the development company.

IDK what PGI said during the backing stage. I knew it was happening, but since I had no money or chance of being able to play the game on my $200 laptop w/ integrated graphics, I didn't pay in. It sounds like they made some pretty big promises, and it also sounds like the backers should have figured out pretty early on what PGI was actually capable of.

Also, I think the 'mechs look really cool (that's my nice thing )

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 14 November 2018 - 06:15 PM.

[El Bandito]

Sable Dove, on 14 November 2018 - 03:52 PM, said:

Superior to what? It has basically no competition.

Superior to any other F2P game, for me. The vast amount of hours I put into MWO, compared to other F2P titles (or other paid games) show me this.

Edited by El Bandito, 14 November 2018 - 06:28 PM.

[LordNothing]

El Bandito, on 14 November 2018 - 06:16 PM, said:

Superior to any other F2P game, for me. The vast amount of hours I put into MWO, compared to other F2P titles show me this.

that alone is why im never going to play another f2p ever again. if this is the superior f2p i dont want anything worse and i certainly dont want to do this again.

and frankly i think if more people played mwll id have stuck with that game rather than move to this one.

[gooddragon2]

It's a good game outside of high tier meta slavery gameplay. That's an arms race. What makes it a good game is that it has the right mix of strategy, customization, and time to kill. The matches aren't too long and you don't get one shotted all the time (somewhat at least).

The problem is meta slavery arms race. People must play the most optimized builds.

It reminds me of a song...

Back in tier 4...

[thievingmagpi]

gooddragon2, on 14 November 2018 - 06:35 PM, said:

It's a good game outside of high tier meta slavery gameplay. That's an arms race. What makes it a good game is that it has the right mix of strategy, customization, and time to kill. The matches aren't too long and you don't get one shotted all the time (somewhat at least).

The problem is meta slavery arms race. People must play the most optimized builds.

It reminds me of a song...

Back in tier 4...

I don't know why people say this, it's not really a thing.

You'll certainly do better on average with meta builds, but good players don't need them to perform in QP. The issue here is again, tier/mm/skill discrepancy. I've been on teams with top tier players and we've folded like wet socks, regardless of build. I've pulled out hard carries in the most meta of builds and watched my team run face first into enemies.

But I've also seen bearclaw do 1k damage in a panther with a single LL.

Saying "high tier gameplay" is only a "meta arms race" isn't true outside of competitive. If you're skilled you can bring just about any mech and do well... No if you're team is there to help that's another story.


I don't see brawlbushwackers on any top-meta list. No Phoenix Hawks on there. No 7 ML javelin. LPL Wolverine? Definitely not. Vulcans will never come close to meta. Outside of maybe a Piranha it's probably my best performing mech, I love it. Rac2 shadowhawk... tons of fun. Just about any nova is fun. Jagermechs... fantastic. Roughnecks... solid, not meta.

Lots of fun options out there that aren't "meta" that are capable of carrying.

Frankly, the fact that meta isn't a requirement like lots of other games is one of the reasons why I like mwo.

BRB just gonna farm a bit in my Ice Fridge

Edited by thievingmagpi, 14 November 2018 - 06:51 PM.

[Khobai]

MechaBattler, on 14 November 2018 - 01:36 PM, said:

It could be a lot better. But it could also have gone a lot worse. It's kinda in the middle. But I feel like the learning curve makes it hard for people to get into it. A lot of the 'successful' games tend to be VERY accessible. They try to make them idiot proof and instantly gratifying. Not so much in MWO. You're gonna get your *** kicked as you learn. And the game doesn't stroke your ego with shiny pop ups for doing the most rudimentary task. The MechWarrior Academy is as close as it comes to that.

But "Successful' and a 'good game' don't always go hand in hand. This could be a good game if it ran better. If we had more maps to play on. If "Facton Warfare" felt more like you're fighting a war with you favorite factions and you had some level of immersion. Like how they promised dropships would actually do something and we'd be able to choose where we go on the star map. I think with clever UI design and immersive elements you could achieve that without going too far into the nitty gritty of which factions are winning. I mean I sure as hell don't care who's stupid tag is on a planet. You could have a team fighting on Tau Ceti, while other team thinks they're on Tortuga or whatever. It wouldn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. As long as the presentation up to the battle and the out of combat unit management mechanics where there to give purpose and immersion that you're fighting in the Battletech Universe.

Everyone has ideas for how this game could be better. But is no where within the realm of the reality for developing this game on an old crappy Cryengine. Hell they would have been better off building it off the older cryengine. Even if it looks old. Never should have gone for the shiny graphics. ;o

Having a steep learning curve is fine as long as the game stays fun after you get good at it.

The problem with MWO is that by the time you get good at it, youre completely sick of it, because its so damn repetitive.

[Appogee]

It's the shallow shell of what was promised, and what it could and should have been.

(Watch the videos that Tarl posted and contrast what was pitched vs what we have ended up with.)

PGI leadership should be ashamed of the blatant bait-and-switch they perpetrated on their customers. But no, they laughed their way to the bank. They're probably astonished that so many customers keep sending them money after each hollow promise of 'big things to come'.

At some point in the not too distant future, charlatan developers will be subjected to class actions by customers holding them to account for failing to deliver on their misleading pre-launch promotions.

Edited by Appogee, 14 November 2018 - 07:14 PM.

[ThreeStooges]

It use to be fun. Playing the Catapult as a fire support mech being second line firing lrms to weaken and using lasers to finish up mechs. Now count how many lrm nerfs and lrm op threads and find out why I mostly gave up playing the game. Other than that the best part of the game is just derp-ing with mech lab seeing how bad or great you can make your mech before going leeroy in a live match to either dying to meta power creep such as dual hgr or laser vomit or using the 11 meat shields to just hardly win a match.

As for 'superior game' I can name many many games from the past 15-20 years that do more than mwo to entertain me even though mwo might have the better paint job visually. I don't care how fancy a game looks. i care about how much fun it gives me and how long it holds my intrest. Fun is subjective to a person's own views and likes and I'm sure lots of people find my type of 'fun' vastly differs than their type of 'fun.'

For my the fun part is largely the vast customization of mech lab as far as mwo is concerned. Maps and actual game play of mwo not so much. Go-to-center-shoot-enemy-repeat regardless of game mode.

[Thorn Hallis]

As this topic is about positive things...MWO brought the Mechwarrior franchise back from the underground.

But thats about it.

Khobai, on 14 November 2018 - 12:30 PM, said:

well successful developers dont aim to make minimally viable products from the start. they try to make the best products they possibly can and then seek to improve them constantly.

somewhere along the line PGI just stopped caring about making MWO the best game they possibly could.

I think they stopped caring because they realized (or decided) they couldn't make it any better. Be it lack of time, lack of funds,.lack of skill, whatever.

[Darky101]

Realy! I like the game! I like the gampeplay! I like the mechs!

My only problem is the lack of a steady stream of content!
New maps! New game modes! Actualy interesting events!


Even some goofy events like: Playing catch! Catch the locust!
Whoever kills the locust drops as a locust, locust gets points for keeping high movement speed, other players also get points for killing other players but not as much as the locust gets for moving fast.

Im here to have fun! I would constantly play the game if we would be getting a steady stream of contetnt. Even if its stupid like the one above. Just to keep things interesting.

I play MWO in short bursts, 1-2 weeks, maybe a month, then i dont even touch it for months.... the game gets borring fast.....shame...

Please take this as constructive feedback.
Thank you!

Edited by Darky101, 15 November 2018 - 12:36 AM.

[Papaspud]

Phyrce, on 14 November 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

My dedication is to the universe, not the game. I have been active on the forums but haven't played more than a dozen matches in 3 months. The majority of my play time has been in the mechlab and testing mechs. I find almost 0 enjoyment when trying to play quick play at this point. I am salty, but if MWO shut down tomorrow I would shrug (even after nearly $1000 invested.) and wait for MW5.

Me too, but I love the game, just need more maps..... not solaris BS.

Edited by Papaspud, 15 November 2018 - 12:40 AM.

[Kotzi]

I think we have different definition of superior. A superior game has satisfying game mechanics that keeps you playing the game for ever. Like Counter Strike, Team Fortress, WoW etc.