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#21 Mcgral18

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 10:50 AM

Worst addition to the game, ever


I might play again when they remove it.

View PostDimento Graven, on 04 December 2018 - 10:46 AM, said:

The purpose of escort was PGI's first foray into "asymmetric" battle in the public queue.

Though honestly, they should have done it with Conquest, having only ONE base to be attacked/defended. PGI chicken ******* the F out on that one.


I think you mean Incursion


That wouldn't be so Terribad asymmetrically; remove both teams base rushing


Tick boxes would be fine too; make sure I never have to play either of those two piece of garbage

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 11:19 AM

View PostMcgral18, on 04 December 2018 - 10:50 AM, said:

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I think you mean Incursion


That wouldn't be so Terribad asymmetrically; remove both teams base rushing


Tick boxes would be fine too; make sure I never have to play either of those two piece of garbage.
You're correct, "Incursion" is what I meant, dunno why I typed conquest, other than 'brain fart'... Anyway, make Incursion asymmetric by removing one of the bases, and honestly I think Escort could be made "less" unpalatable if:

1. The speed of the VIP was increased to 60kph.
2. Lengthen the path of the VIP to accommodate the new speed (or add a stationary 'waiting' point for the drop ship, one that is generally defensible.
3. Add short range defensive capabilities to the VIP, a crap ton of small lasers/medium lasers/MG's to eliminate "butt/leg hugging", OR, allow the VIP to knockdown any 'mech that comes into contact with it.
4. Make the path of the VIP a lot less F'ing stupid. I swear to god the current path the VIP takes is typically so goddamned frustrating because there are times he'll backtrack, or move about in a near complete circle, making him that much easier to attack and kill.

This is probably an F-ton more effort than PGI is willing to invest in this game at this point.

Anyone else feeling a bit... betrayed by any lack of significant announcement on the future plans for MWO?

Or did I somehow miss a relevant announcement from MechCon?

#23 Mcgral18

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 11:37 AM

View PostDimento Graven, on 04 December 2018 - 11:19 AM, said:

You're correct, "Incursion" is what I meant, dunno why I typed conquest, other than 'brain fart'... Anyway, make Incursion asymmetric by removing one of the bases, and honestly I think Escort could be made "less" unpalatable if:

1. The speed of the VIP was increased to 60kph.
2. Lengthen the path of the VIP to accommodate the new speed (or add a stationary 'waiting' point for the drop ship, one that is generally defensible.
3. Add short range defensive capabilities to the VIP, a crap ton of small lasers/medium lasers/MG's to eliminate "butt/leg hugging", OR, allow the VIP to knockdown any 'mech that comes into contact with it.
4. Make the path of the VIP a lot less F'ing stupid. I swear to god the current path the VIP takes is typically so goddamned frustrating because there are times he'll backtrack, or move about in a near complete circle, making him that much easier to attack and kill.

This is probably an F-ton more effort than PGI is willing to invest in this game at this point.

Anyone else feeling a bit... betrayed by any lack of significant announcement on the future plans for MWO?

Or did I somehow miss a relevant announcement from MechCon?




Nah, nothing much planned for MWO
"listen to the community" for the sixth year in a row, with focus towards CW


I'd just remove the VIP mech entirely it makes no sense.
Convoy of some sort, no HP, just lead it
Reds don't want to kill it, they want to capture him.

That's controversial

This isn't: path viewable on map. Can still be multiple paths too choose, but the defending team knows which one they're taking.
Bloody stupid that they don't.

Also remove/reduce/change scouting towers
The way they lock onto targets is not ideal, and kills Lights. Removes much of the map they can safely travel, making them nearly pointless.

#24 Mister Glitchdragon

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 11:40 AM

View PostRustyBolts, on 02 December 2018 - 06:00 AM, said:

Nope. Vote for it every time. Just like Polar Highlands. Just to see the QQ in chat.

Pretty much this. Ever heard of the Streisand Effect? The OP has pretty much guaranteed more Escort votes incoming. Also, people who can't play and win on Polar are straight taters.

#25 SirSmokes

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 12:22 PM

View PostTarl Cabot, on 01 December 2018 - 09:27 PM, said:

I vote for it to up my multiplier. Most of the time no issue but there have been a few times where several were doing it... imagine gettin Escort with 63ish%... hahaha.

It was you!!! 0-O

#26 Mcgral18

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 12:41 PM

View PostMister Glitchdragon, on 04 December 2018 - 11:40 AM, said:

can't play and win on Polar are straight taters.



It's not Can't

It's Want


I no longer want to play the game because of additions which are not fun
As a result, fewer players play the game


Though the feel being changed affected me more than maps; I miss agile robots.

#27 Matt2496

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 01:27 PM

Can we petition Russ to have the PGI team just remove Escort entirely?

#28 Powder Puff Pew Pew

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 07:39 PM

HAHAHA I vote for VIP escort everytime it pops up. I love it, makes for quick easy kills, fast match, and onto the next. Sometimes the defenders win, sometimes attackers. Its purely skill and hunting.

#29 Blockwart

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 07:42 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 04 December 2018 - 10:50 AM, said:

Worst addition to the game, ever

Nope. That was Long Tom.

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 09:38 PM

I vote for it every single time it see it

#31 Mcgral18

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:49 PM

View PostBlockwart, on 05 December 2018 - 07:42 PM, said:

Nope. That was Long Tom.



You could avoid Long Tom by not playing CW

You cannot avoid the Very Important Potato (without wanting to play Solaris)

#32 justcallme A S H

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:00 PM

View PostDimento Graven, on 04 December 2018 - 10:46 AM, said:

The purpose of escort was PGI's first foray into "asymmetric" battle in the public queue.

Though honestly, they should have done it with Conquest, having only ONE base to be attacked/defended. PGI chicken ******* the F out on that one.


Ummm... That is what incursion was meant to be.

Conquest is fine.

#33 Sjorpha

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 04:52 AM

View PostTheGreyWolfe, on 01 December 2018 - 05:39 PM, said:

Every match - I say the same thing - just stop voting for this mode.
The Devs already can read the data - this mode is more than broken and no one wants to play it.

But still....I guess we keep getting the trolls that want to vote for it.

Just stop - doesn't make you look cool - doesn't make you win - only way to get through to the devs about this mode is to just stop voting for it.
I can go into the multiple reasons this mode is broken - but it still is voted for.

Please just stop.


Players who vote for Escort do so because they want to play Escort, same reason you vote for the modes you prefer to play.

I see this all the time, this weird inability to understand that other people prefer other things than yourself. Just because you think Escort is bad it somehow has to be trolling when people vote for it. I've seen the same with maps, people who can't understand that other players might like other maps and so they just assume it's trolling or a misfired attempt at farming the vote multiplier.

Some people like Escort better than skirmish, some people prefer Polar Highlands and Terra Therma over HPG and Mining and you're just gonna have to deal with that.

#34 Dimento Graven

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 07:32 AM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 05 December 2018 - 11:00 PM, said:

Ummm... That is what incursion was meant to be.

Conquest is fine.
Yeah thanks, someone else already corrected me on it.

#35 Nyte Kitsune

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 07:42 AM

Rather like Escort myself, What I don't like is getting "Polar Highland-Domination" 90% of the time, I'd rather be stuck on Terra Therma in a Laser vomit mech than that. What they need to do is re-balance the appearances of certain maps/modes. I like the maps itself, but Domination comes up far too often for it.

#36 Dimento Graven

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 08:37 AM

View PostNyte Kitsune, on 06 December 2018 - 07:42 AM, said:

...What I don't like is getting "Polar Highland-Domination" 90% of the time, I'd rather be stuck on Terra Therma in a Laser vomit mech than that. What they need to do is re-balance the appearances of certain maps/modes. I like the maps itself, but Domination comes up far too often for it.
For Polar, Domination is typically selected by everyone else trying to avoid the results of a map whose design makes LRM'ing the enemy from a distance very easy.

At least Domination on Polar, the enemy will be closing in on a known position making it a lot easier to either A: avoid being seen, or B: flanking into the LRM carriers to get underneath their effective range.

#37 Omniseed

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:06 AM

I like Escort because on attack you have an extra supertanky enemy to chew through!

#38 Dimento Graven

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:13 AM

View PostOmniseed, on 06 December 2018 - 11:06 AM, said:

I like Escort because on attack you have an extra supertanky enemy to chew through!
Yeah, we get it. A quiescent target to farm damage from...

#39 Mcgral18

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 12:13 PM

View PostSjorpha, on 06 December 2018 - 04:52 AM, said:

you're just gonna have to deal with that.


Actually, we don't

We can stop playing (or TK the big potato)

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 05:11 PM

Anyone can be the VIP just go 50kph into the enemy firing line. The longest you're have to endure the match is maybe four or five minutes at most. Technically you are defending the vip by sacrificing your mech so the enemy fire line isn't currently one-shot-ing the vip. Use an IS xl and you'll have to spend even less time in E-crap game mode.





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