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[justcallme A S H]

I think you need to go and watch Paul's MM video and/or think about the current state of the game.

"R" is literally never going to occur (4,000 options). You'd need 10,000+ people playing at the same time for them to be realised, more actually, and that's never happened in the history of MWO.


Limiting people to 2man groups, minimum, will cause more harm than good. Limiting them, just for MERC only - is simple a choice. I get why it is being done, to create a sense of MERC unit / group mentality, just that it will not work with the current state of - everything. Nothing to do with math/MM.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 17 January 2019 - 01:55 PM.

[Siegegun]

justcallme A S H, on 17 January 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

I think you need to go and watch Paul's MM video and/or think about the current state of the game.

"R" is literally never going to occur (4,000 options). You'd need 10,000+ people playing at the same time for them to be realised, more actually, and that's never happened in the history of MWO.


Limiting people to 2man groups, minimum, will cause more harm than good. Limiting them, just for MERC only - is simple a choice. I get why it is being done, to create a sense of MERC unit / group mentality, just that it will not work with the current state of - everything. Nothing to do with math/MM.

This could seriously drive me away from the game for sure. I am sure I am not alone. I've been here 5+ years, spent hundreds on the game, and play regularly. In a game that is losing players, to plan to restrict access to a game mode that needs revamping because its barely played anyway, is just crazy. I get what they are going for too Ash, but the "lets make this "feel" like BattleTech" ship sailed YEARS ago. Lets just focus on keeping this mode of play and the GAME alive still.

[NocturnalBeast]

Spheroid, on 17 January 2019 - 01:45 PM, said:

@Ash: When you allow the full set of combinations of twelve using r as low as one you arrive at over four thousand combinations. Those solo players are free to enter and leave the queue in that two minute window and each time that set changes the group match maker needs to recheck the two skill values. Remember its not just the blue side it the blue vs. red side which also potentially has four thousand valid combinations.

That is a lot of changing numbers for the program to crunch. If anything the four thousand number shows why it is vital to include solo players to fill gaps in the group que to reduce wait times and why it is important to limit combinations when solving for matchmaking.

Saw your sig, are you related to Hatchy? She is (or was) pretty active on the BATTLETECH forums. And her hat is not a pink P* hat, she made it up first.

[Big Tin Man]

So that stuff that was marked in green and was 'ready to go in a future patch'... Is that the new "SOON™"?

No fp update for January.

[Nightbird]

Not even a fix for the refresh button, which has never worked

[GweNTLeR]

Nightbird, on 18 January 2019 - 08:12 PM, said:

Not even a fix for the refresh button, which has never worked

Yeah, and people expect PGI to fix FW. Why not simply give dropships lurms? That is hard to mess up at least.

[Paul Inouye]

Hey folks,

Will be back next week to get back into the discussion.

For an update:

Backend/DB engineer has completed his audit of all systems that are going to have to be completely yanked and re-written for the FP Update. There's a lot there since the majority of the update revolves around player participation and the match maker. I've also requested that we look into any other possible smaller reworks base on community feedback. That is also in the works.

The Frontend/UI engineer has audited screen changes from the current system to the new systems and is now actively prototyping screens that will allow us to bring the loyalty player progression and match making updates a reality. There are a few screens that are getting completely obliterated and a few new screens added. The FE flow will be updated to take into account all of these new additions. More quality of life updates are being investigated as well as long as they're part of these major screen updates.

[justcallme A S H]

One thing Paul - Drop Decks.

Appears there are 32 of them now (total purchasable). That wasn't in the patch notes for Jan.

Can you confirm it is indeed intended / gonna stay? Would hate for people to drop some MC on drop decks if they gonna disappear as that is quite unexpected.

Was there anything else snuck in?

[Mechwarrior 37]

justcallme A S H, on 23 January 2019 - 05:11 PM, said:

One thing Paul - Drop Decks.

Appears there are 32 of them now (total purchasable). That wasn't in the patch notes for Jan.

Can you confirm it is indeed intended / gonna stay? Would hate for people to drop some MC on drop decks if they gonna disappear as that is quite unexpected.

Was there anything else snuck in?

32????? That takes all the fun out of having 60 seconds to change your deck.....lol. Wow, you could have decks for everything.

[NocturnalBeast]

I finally put a dropdeck back together, do pug groups still get matched up against 12 man premades (or mostly premades)?

[justcallme A S H]

Of course they do.

Faction Play is a group oriented mode. Has been from Day 1 and the Warning Screen you clicked on says that.

If you drop solo you run the risk of facing a group on the other side. That will never change.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 24 January 2019 - 01:02 PM.

[NocturnalBeast]

justcallme A S H, on 24 January 2019 - 01:02 PM, said:

Of course they do.

Faction Play is a group oriented mode. Has been from Day 1 and the Warning Screen you clicked on says that.

I have been here from the beginning, so I am well aware of this.

justcallme A S H, on 24 January 2019 - 01:02 PM, said:

If you drop solo you run the risk of facing a group on the other side. That will never change.

The only reason I asked is because I was away a while and have not done any FP for an even longer time and things change with every patch, so I was just wondering if they have changed the matchmaker or not.

GweNTLeR, on 19 January 2019 - 11:01 PM, said:

Yeah, and people expect PGI to fix FW. Why not simply give dropships lurms? That is hard to mess up at least.

Or give them their actual lore loadouts and then see how quickly spawn camping stops.

[KhanBhacKeD]

And see how fast some people get advantage of this to lurm from their base.

Stop complaining about spawn camping, it happen in 2 cases :

-when you get steamrolled (and it's an act of mercy to try to finish the match fast)
-when you and your team are afraid to get out of spawn (so it's only karma )

Or ok you want drops hip lore loadouts? = so limited time in your own spawn zone or death.

Edited by KhanBhacKeD, 25 January 2019 - 01:25 AM.

[50 50]

justcallme A S H, on 23 January 2019 - 05:11 PM, said:

One thing Paul - Drop Decks.

Appears there are 32 of them now (total purchasable). That wasn't in the patch notes for Jan.

Can you confirm it is indeed intended / gonna stay? Would hate for people to drop some MC on drop decks if they gonna disappear as that is quite unexpected.

Was there anything else snuck in?

So it seems like the drop deck increase is legit?
Haven't seen anything to say it shouldn't be there?

[TheCaptainJZ]

50 50, on 27 January 2019 - 03:31 PM, said:

So it seems like the drop deck increase is legit?
Haven't seen anything to say it shouldn't be there?

It was added to the patch notes after the original posting.

So it's legit.

[50 50]

TheCaptainJZ, on 27 January 2019 - 03:54 PM, said:

It was added to the patch notes after the original posting.

So it's legit.

Nice.
Thank you.
Hadn't seen that the notes had been updated.

[El Maestro]

Big Tin Man, on 18 January 2019 - 08:03 PM, said:

So that stuff that was marked in green and was 'ready to go in a future patch'... Is that the new "SOON™"?

No fp update for January.

no FP update for February...

[Ronan]

Glad they "came back after a week" or whatever.

[Roland09]

Don't you know how many Mech Pods need wiring?

[Eatit]

justcallme A S H, on 24 January 2019 - 01:02 PM, said:

Of course they do.

Faction Play is a group oriented mode. Has been from Day 1 and the Warning Screen you clicked on says that.

If you drop solo you run the risk of facing a group on the other side. That will never change.

I think there should be a Solo FW bucket. Similar to Solo Quick Play.

Here is where the new people can hone their skills in FW without the seal clubbers taking advantage of them. It's pretty simple and resolves all of the mentioned problems.

Solo Quick Play is the only mode that still exists in any meaningful capacity. Why not see if it works for FW too?

And as a reply to Ash's it has been this way since day 1 and will never change. It's dead now, maybe change was needed in order to keep it alive.

Paul, I hope you read this and see the wisdom. Solo Quick Play for FW, FTW!!

Edited by Eatit, 19 February 2019 - 12:31 PM.