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[Xiphias]

Spheroid, on 08 January 2019 - 01:43 PM, said:

MC at this point of the game's life is meaningless. I have everything. MC is only a means to an end. They dragged their asses so long in MWO that I completed the end goal of pokemech. I reached the end of content, something you never want in a F2P game.

What makes MC so valuable when they give many thousands of it away annually now?

I guess this is for the lazy or the lapsed.

You're also 58th for matches played on Jarl's (the 0.00147%), the exception rather than the rule. There are plenty of people who are neither lazy nor lapsed who still have uses for MC.

[The6thMessenger]

NO PREORDERS. NO LOOTBOXES. NO MICROTRANSACTIONS.

[FupDup]

I'm actually optimistic about MW5 not having scummy stuff like loot boxes in it because it's not made by a major AAA publisher. Ironically, the companies that already have the most popular titles and the most money stored up are the ones that keep pushing the boundaries on what types of microtransactions the gaming community will tolerate, while the smaller companies who release less known titles and sell way fewer copies are able to survive just fine without nickle and diming people like EA or Activision insist upon.

I remain skeptical about pretty much every other aspect of the game though, plus it's always safe to wait for reviews to come out rather than immediately pre-ordering everything immediately.

Edited by FupDup, 08 January 2019 - 04:19 PM.

[FupDup]

Spheroid, on 08 January 2019 - 04:20 PM, said:

Are you saying I am not skilled enough to have an opinion? I already explained to you the only time I am in QP is to level mechs not improve stats. I play everything including the garbage 2 energy spider and the Locust-1V. I am required to level everything.

What he was trying to say is that a player who invests a crapload of time is less likely to have uses for MC than players who are less active because many of MC's uses are related to time-saving measures such as premium time. The usual montra for F2P games is that you either spend time or you spend money, and you have clearly spent a lot of time.

I didn't interpret it to be related to skill, it was pretty straightforward.

Edited by FupDup, 08 January 2019 - 04:23 PM.

[The6thMessenger]

FupDup, on 08 January 2019 - 04:18 PM, said:

I'm actually optimistic about MW5 not having scummy stuff like loot boxes in it because it's not made by a major AAA publisher. Ironically, the companies that already have the most popular titles and the most money stored up are the ones that keep pushing the boundaries on what types of microtransactions the gaming community will tolerate, while the smaller companies who release less known titles and sell way fewer copies are able to survive just fine without nickle and diming people like EA or Activision insist upon.

I remain skeptical about pretty much every other aspect of the game though, plus it's always safe to wait for reviews to come out rather than immediately pre-ordering everything immediately.

It's a motto really.

We really should stop letting developers do these three things, it has becoming a lazy way of getting money that in turn make lazy products.

[Koniving]

HammerMaster, on 08 January 2019 - 02:17 PM, said:

Ya . The pre-order bonus is too heavy on the mwo side and too light on the mw5 side.

Thing is they make their money on the mwo side. Many of us joke once it came out we would ditch mwo. Maybe PGI thinks that's more than a joke.

I do hope however hat they put the money to good use in both expanding a bit and actually putting something meaningful into mwo.
I will be preordering. Would be a good way to get my YouTube kicked back into gear. My little one has made recording near impossible for a while and some people think I died.
Just been biding my time collecting mech games and thinking of how to come back....and how to have an interesting way to make videos about megamek adventures that can be visually interesting.... because megamek is...not visually interestig. Narratively, yes. Fun, sure. Scenarios, action, etc., well let's say Ravaged Corsair versus Axman wound up with Ravaged ripping Axman's arm off and smashing the cockpit in with it. But visually....

Anyway. Mw5 especially after a few minor homebrew mods should bea good way to get jump started back up.

And since I used to be all flashy and model for live action screenshots in mwo, the mc will be handy in making my mechs look good again.

Edit tablet typo led to word change.

Edited by Koniving, 08 January 2019 - 04:29 PM.

[Koniving]

FupDup, on 08 January 2019 - 04:18 PM, said:

I remain skeptical about pretty much every other aspect of the game though, plus it's always safe to wait for reviews to come out rather than immediately pre-ordering everything immediately.

To me whatever flaws there are as long as it's not in game hosting and network, I can fix. I have been working with unreal engine since Deus Ex (the first one). There is little that would get in my way. So whatever I don't like I am going to change. Now if it didn't have mod support... I'd probably do the low tier preorder. Cause once it comes out, being a new game, I would not be surprised to see a 60 dollar tag especially if it shows up in game stop Wal-Mart etc.

Then again I always planned to "fix" MW5 ever since mod support was mentioned.

I mean PGI's obsession with using Mech Rifles as "autocannons" drives me nuts.

Btw the year's mw5 was going to focus on changed twice I think. Anyone know what it is now?

[Kaeb Odellas]

MTX would make absolutely no business sense for MW5 if you can just mod all that content in. And if MW5 was going that route, they would have given some indication with the pre-order bonuses. Instead, all the MTX-related preorder content is for MWO.

Although now I'm picturing finding LosTech supply caches during the campaign and having to pay a guy to open them.

[N0ni]

So doing the math of bonus MC that Founders of ANY level get... if i were the pre-order the Ultimate Edition and get the 30,000 MC (+ 30,000 bonus) that's 60k on top of the 30k i still have sitting (because there's really nothing to buy with it atm).

I never have to buy MC ever again! I can just wait it out on other games + MW5 then gobble up the future hero mechs later (assuming MWO is still around then).

Yes i would gladly pay $120 to play with quads (mod support!).

[Mechteric]

I just had to send an email to the support@mw5mercs.com because my Google pay transaction showed failure to successfully purchased the MW5 standard edition, but I see the transaction on my Visa. I'm sure they'll get it sorted out, but you all might want to avoid using Google pay for a day or two while they sort it out.

[Mazikar]

Even though I am not playing MWO actively I can still see some form of future value. I hope they can update/upgrade MWO with MW5 interest. We shall see. Count me in for the preorder.

[Alkabides]

Seems a like a great buy at any level if you play this game on a regular basis. Now, the question is will that MAD pack count towards IS top tier annual rewards?????

[Dee Eight]

It would help if they had first told us whether a license extension deal had been finalized with microsoft or not.

N0ni, on 08 January 2019 - 05:03 PM, said:

So doing the math of bonus MC that Founders of ANY level get... if i were the pre-order the Ultimate Edition and get the 30,000 MC (+ 30,000 bonus) that's 60k on top of the 30k i still have sitting (because there's really nothing to buy with it atm).

I never have to buy MC ever again! I can just wait it out on other games + MW5 then gobble up the future hero mechs later (assuming MWO is still around then).

Yes i would gladly pay $120 to play with quads (mod support!).

Best uses for MC right now are horns so all your mechs make noises... and the in-game store mech bundles which get you mechs, bays, and premium time.

[Der BierVampiR]

Marauder3D, on 08 January 2019 - 12:14 PM, said:

Thoughts?

https://mw5mercs.com/

After all this time, I have to admit. I'm tempted. You?

It's awesome! Especially the double MC stuff for founders is great.

[Monkey Lover]

HammerMaster, on 08 January 2019 - 02:17 PM, said:

Ya . The pre-order bonus is too heavy on the mwo side and too light on the mw5 side.

There has been more sales in the last year then all of the years before it. MWO value is decreasing fast and due to this you will see this stuff being handed out.

I will buy mw5 when it hits a steam sale for 10 bucks few months after released.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 08 January 2019 - 06:06 PM.

[Davegt27]

the price is not bad

I remember paying $65 for Strike Eagle III back in the early 1990's

I just wish it was a hard copy to add to my collection

[HammerMaster]

Koniving, on 08 January 2019 - 04:41 PM, said:

To me whatever flaws there are as long as it's not in game hosting and network, I can fix. I have been working with unreal engine since Deus Ex (the first one). There is little that would get in my way. So whatever I don't like I am going to change. Now if it didn't have mod support... I'd probably do the low tier preorder. Cause once it comes out, being a new game, I would not be surprised to see a 60 dollar tag especially if it shows up in game stop Wal-Mart etc.

Then again I always planned to "fix" MW5 ever since mod support was mentioned.

I mean PGI's obsession with using Mech Rifles as "autocannons" drives me nuts.

Btw the year's mw5 was going to focus on changed twice I think. Anyone know what it is now?

My absolute #1 hope for fix is autocannons. {THEY ARE NOT RIFLES!}
#2 is all brand named equipment with quirks.

[N0ni]

Dee Eight, on 08 January 2019 - 05:51 PM, said:

Best uses for MC right now are horns so all your mechs make noises... and the in-game store mech bundles which get you mechs, bays, and premium time.

The problem with that is i don't care much for cockpit items or bolt ons (quite a few of which i have yet to even use) + i pretty much won the pokemech challenge and still have all that unused banked premium time lol. But yes, for someone else those would in fact be the best uses of MC!

[Koniving]

HammerMaster, on 08 January 2019 - 06:27 PM, said:

My absolute #1 hope for fix is autocannons. {THEY ARE NOT RIFLES!}
#2 is all brand named equipment with quirks.

From screenshots there are some acs that are full auto or at least rapid fire. There is a jagermech spewing over 30 empty shells in a single screenshot with 2 ac/2s and 2 ac/5s. But the fact that the Shadowhawk is repeatedly showcased with a heavy hitting slow firing ac/5 that feels like mwo's ac/20 in an "ac/5" bugs me as most Shadowhawks sport 80mm ac/5s (highest caliber on an ac/2 is 90mm. ) But minor fixes to some values (a process someone thinks would take months to apply the same thing to mwo's dropships and in Unreal at least is literally a 5 minute edit assuming you have no idea where to start (and 30 seconds if you know exactly where to go at least unreal 1.5 to unreal 3 have been that way) ) and a couple of effect changes and a projectile swap later, all fixed.

Course can even reuse what they have to create Mech Rifles. Why? Because I love them. Just I like my mech rifles to be called that and my autocannons to be autocannons.

Brand name equipment has been a big fantasy for a while. From what I seen on the "displays" for booting up targeting systems and sensor suites have names. Some include thermal/night and some dont. Will be interesting to see how it works. Best case scenario the ground work is there and the execution could probably improve (and naturally it'll be in my mods). Worst case it's just fluff and n/v and h/v are just modules. In which case I'll flip a desk and find a way to put it in.

While my own full system for making weapon variants would probably never make it in... a chunk of it is basically an overfluffed way to make "different but fair" rather than "flat out upgrade" variants anyway. So little to nothing would stop me from making variants both from BT as well as filler for variants with no clear distinction or description. The thorn in my side is going to be making them visually distinct. For example Donal PPCs have a very specific description in both the weapon shape (which isn't always adhered to in art) and the shape of the PPC bolt trail itself. Lord's Light PPC is actually compact in size and is designed to wrap around a joint/actuator. That's gonna be tough. Though the full effect description... no reason to think it couldn't be done. Issue might be when I make it the way it's described it will have a serious physical impact and devastating hit... but a 2 second build up to fire would need some skillz. The Warhammer in mw5 (pre mwo) pre-visualization concept trailer number 2 had a 1 second charge up per PPC and hit hard while the Atlas's ac/20?/10? hammered on and on... Already know some advantages to the slow charge up (much cooler when actually fired which is important considering std heatsinks)..

Dang it now I'm eager to pick it apart and fix it. You did this!

Anyway I know the Corsair thread hasn't been updated with the big stuff yet. Been collecting it. But do check it out this weekend. So far the std heatsink corsair is win no g between it and ravager on how it fairs in BT in 3063.

[Koniving]

Alkabides, on 08 January 2019 - 05:45 PM, said:

Seems a like a great buy at any level if you play this game on a regular basis. Now, the question is will that MAD pack count towards IS top tier annual rewards?????

In the past promotional stuff they did has counted. So most likely. Everything that gives you mc through the site/steam has always counted even in years when I bought no MC (so the last 3) I have always got the mc bonus. Since Mad II is going tohave a preorder sale.... expect it to count.

The outcrynof it not counting would be iffy and PGI is one that does good when outcry involves money.