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[Deathshade]

Thanks PGI. We asked for more rewards in game and Faction. You listened. <S>

[Kaptain]

Playing the phoenix mechs again and remembering why I was so disappointed in the package and stopped buying mech packs.

Only PGI would add special geometry that makes the mechs harder to see out of and easier for the enemy to hit and call it "content".

Can we please have a toggle button to turn them into norm geo if we so choose.

[Apollo 42]

From a hypothetical angle here, with all those match scores being shown on this thread, just how often can a player get to a match score of 500, with the changes they have made in recent months to the scoring system, I would imagine not very often. Sure using a 3x AMS mech may help to get a higher score, but the scaling on the event makes it not so much of a fun event for competionists, as a grueling, exorcise in torture, especially for newer players, where I thought that events were suposed to help to cater to as well, as for a new player the rewards help alot with a green warriors outfiting a mech or a second mech. the 500 match score compared to the prior tier of 250,150,100, and then 50 seems a bit steep of a curve given the way the others are set, should it not be a score of 300? that is far more obtainable for more warriors, and would help to reduce player burnout, and complaints over events. The basic one that all players can do, is set in a way that few can obtain. While I always welcome chalenges for special mechs that everyone may not have, to reward players that do, but I still like to see obtainable events for those that do not. As it stands it seems like some warriors may feel left out in the cold over the Mechwarrior Challenges, and how the last one may not be reachable.

Edited by Apollo 42, 18 January 2019 - 06:08 PM.

[NRP]

I'll certainly never get a 500 match score. To do that, I'd probably need over 1k damage with multiple kills and assists. Some players can put up those numbers, but for me it's not gonna happen.

[Koniving]

Highest I ever got was somewhere barely over 600 something... But I didn't really fight. Didn't really kill anything. I just kept enemies away with LRMs while staying close to the team, spotting enemies with the command wheel, using a UAV and artillery, countering ECM when it got close to me with BAP, etc...

I don't have one I can pull out as I don't normally look at match score to judge if I did well, but this one to my surprise has a match score of 590.

Now remember, word all over a certain other forum is I'm a terrible player with no skill and my Jarl's list declares I'm a "low class bottom rung in the brown sea."

So I'm sure you could do it given the right circumstances and LRMs.

If it helps with being a little more specific on what was done? I dunno. I didn't realize it got such a high score until I went looking at recent ones to see what my highest screen capped one was of recent date.

Edited by Koniving, 18 January 2019 - 08:03 PM.

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[Koniving]

Apparently... it isn't that hard to get...



So uh... yeah, I guess?
But that said, I've got none where I got it recently in anything OTHER than an LRM-boat.

[Koniving]

Retiring for tonight. Got a little bit left on Locust, and will need to take a crack at Hunchback and Atlas.
Everything else is done, except a few of the MW challenges, they're all at 95 to 99% done. Need 1 kill assist in a light, a solo kill in a light, a victory in a light and one in an assault, and a 500 match score (so take the Archer out for a spin).

[Horseman]

Rhaezor, on 18 January 2019 - 11:17 AM, said:

there is a boring bug with Halloween decals, when saved the preview image gets them in wrong, off positions.

With all decals, not just halloween ones.

[Xeno Phalcon]

I keep falling just short of the 500 mark (by like 15-20 points every time lol) pretty much lost interest in trying. Highlight of my day was 419 damage spread across six kills, three solo kills, three kills most damage dealt, six savior kills, fourteen components destroyed, but because I only had two assists I fell short by about 18pts. -.^

[Ruccus]

BSK, on 18 January 2019 - 01:03 PM, said:

4MG 1lightPPC. Took me 1 match.

Yes, I hadn't played any of my locusts in ages (I had to redeem the HSP to set the skill nodes on my Phoenix Locust before doing the event) and was a bit worried about the Kills/KMDD requirement.

After theorycrafting a HMG version and a SNPPC version (both did fine in the testing grounds, but once hot the SNPPC didn't cool down quickly enough and the HMG version needed a bit more ammo) I settled on a simple MPL/4MG build and did the Locust challenge in two matches.

I also had fun and it was a different style of gameplay to what I usually do (bigger mechs between 75 and 95kph) so I think I might return to a few of my 139kph and faster mechs like the Huginn, Oxide, Javelin, and Osiris to have some fun when I feel like something different.

[Koniving]

Locust event done (finally got a chance to play since my overtime tonight got cancelled.)

Moving on to Hunchbacks. I haven't used them in a while, I admit. Though I see they improved the weapon appearances and changed the triple ballistic hardpoints of the Hunchback 4G from a boring vertical arrangement to a Predator's triangle arrangement.
My triple AC/2 Hunchback looks a LOT better now.

My Founder before LBX-10 + twin MG.

And now (note I tried to match the old colors, but I have so many greys, blues and whites that I don't know which it was. Also the decals are from playing it sometime last year and trying to spruce up the Buc pattern; just didn't bother to take 'em back off for this shot)

Left: LBX-10 and twin MGs founder with default pattern. Right: Triple AC/2 regular 4G with Buc pattern.

Not a fan of how it removes the pattern for where it is customized, but leaving out the other ballistic hardpoints leaves the full paint intact.

[Alan Hicks]

Speaking about the MechWarrior challenges since I don't own any Founders or Phoenix mechs.

This time, like most others, had good rewards, but I found the challenges way too steep. Got pretty stuck with the light solo kill and the 500 match score.

Went close to 500 only like 3 times, 470, 485, 493, but not 500. Nooooo!!! Almost !!! It was really demoralizing since in a lot of matches, you barely see anyone in BOTH teams getting more than 300 as a match score.

Sometimes you see 2, 3 or more people getting over the 500 score but that is not very common.

Oh well, then the miracle happened, got 511 with 2 kills, a solo kill and 5 kills most damage dealt.

I am not a skilled player and anything good I may bring to matches is because of hard earned experience.

You may see people around here, few in comparison with the rest of the community saying: "oh, the event was again, too easy, done with it in a few of hours..." Well, easy for them since they are highly skilled players, not everyone around is as good as them...

So, by making an event this hard, the rest of the MWO population gets alienated. I understand if the challenges are way too easy some people will complain, the question is: what's the skill of most of the population in the game?

It's great when events serve as a teaching lesson to everyone, but with achievable and fun goals that require just some attention for those to be completed. It has been done in the past, it can happen again. Usually, I've seen events are good and bring more fun to MWO.

But this time... I can't even think what the event was for the new player or the somehow under-skilled one. Just unachievable.

I just finished the challenges, I didn't think i could. Was left with a sour taste you don't normally get when playing for one.


Glad is over for me, now I can just play freely again. (I got burned out, so I'm taking a deserved break)

Edited by Alan Hicks, 19 January 2019 - 08:57 PM.

[Nick Makiaveli]

Arkhangel, on 16 January 2019 - 10:46 PM, said:

Funny thing with that guy mentioning the Khan Mechs.. i know people who still shoot Khan Mechs on principle, regardless of which side they're on. Khan Mechs're from the darkest time in PGI's history, when IGP made that frigging HUGE cashgrab like that because they were trying to use the cash to fund MechWarrior Tactics.

in essence.... Khan Mech pilots get shot at because frankly... the rest of the community thinks they're complete @#$%ing idiots with far more money than sense.

Yeah small minded jealous people are like that.

[Ruccus]

Alan Hicks, on 19 January 2019 - 08:46 PM, said:

So, by making an event this hard, the rest of the MWO population gets alienated. I understand if the challenges are way too easy some people will complain, the question is: what's the skill of most of the population in the game?

Currently I don't have any of the general challenges completed (I've only played a few matches in my Phoenix mechs because I've been away until yesterday) but I think most of the challenges seem reasonable.

The solo kills challenge is for MC so I don't think it should be easy and while the light solo kill is harder, the enemy does also have light mechs - go after one of them in your light mech to get your solo kill. In fact that's the only solo kill I've got so far (in my Locust). The rest of the solo kills can be done by picking on mechs lighter than you.

The assists challenge is pretty easy; that should be grindable by anyone even on trial mechs.

The victories one is harder because you're looking at on average 24 matches (considering a 50% winning percentage) and possibly more if you're piloting mechs you're uncomfortable in. But it's for MC as well so shouldn't be easy, and you can just play the game any way you want so long as you just switch to the next weight class once you've gotten your 3 wins. I likely won't even try for this unless I get on a winning streak while completing the other challenges because I have to work tomorrow.

The ballistic, energy, and missile damage challenge is fine in my mind and helps players vary their loadouts to try new things. It's a good challenge with a decent reward.

The match score challenge is one where I agree with you; I think it should have been split into two challenges where the 5,000 total match score and other minimum match scores were a challenge and the 500 match score game was its own challenge. I don't need the MC so if I complete the solo kills challenge, assists challenge, and damage challenge without getting a 500 match score I likely won't try for a 500 match score game so it'll be in their database as an uncompleted challenge. If a significant number of players aren't able to complete the challenge it'll tell them the challenge was too difficult and they can tweak it for next time.

[Koniving]

Hunchbacks done.
Had a crappy match, took a break, played some Megamek and another mech game, spent a bit designing some civilian improvised artillery vehicles for use in Megamek.... and went back and had another match.



So. Sure a lot of my team survived, but as usual I went off to do my own thing and go get swarmed by the big bads (yes I know I usually get slaughtered, its sort of intentionally screwing myself into really tough, often unwinnable situations).
Pulled through by killing all 3 of the people that went to gang up on me and still being able to mosey on over and try to help the team.

[NocturnalBeast]

Well, I got all the founder's challenges done and one of the Mechwarrior challenges, but I won't have time to do the Phoenix challenges.

[MPrion]

When will the rewards be redeemed?? Completed the MW challenges, and got the C-bills and MC, but the cockpit items havent shown up yet!?

[DarkFhoenix]

NRP, on 18 January 2019 - 07:20 PM, said:

I'll certainly never get a 500 match score. To do that, I'd probably need over 1k damage with multiple kills and assists. Some players can put up those numbers, but for me it's not gonna happen.

A fully skilled mech boating lurms or streaks should get that score easily .

Edited by DarkFhoenix, 20 January 2019 - 03:00 AM.

[Alan Hicks]

Ruccus, on 19 January 2019 - 11:40 PM, said:

The match score challenge is one where I agree with you; I think it should have been split into two challenges where the 5,000 total match score and other minimum match scores were a challenge and the 500 match score game was its own challenge. I don't need the MC so if I complete the solo kills challenge, assists challenge, and damage challenge without getting a 500 match score I likely won't try for a 500 match score game so it'll be in their database as an uncompleted challenge. If a significant number of players aren't able to complete the challenge it'll tell them the challenge was too difficult and they can tweak it for next time.

Yes, splitting that challenge into two would have been a better idea. The 500 score requirement was the hardest part and if not completed despite getting the others minimum scores, sorry, no reward.

It would have made most sense to put it completely separated, like the time a head-shot was a challenge, that one, I didn't even try !

Hope they check their database and tweak events accordingly, challenges are mostly doable and motivating. But few (for the best, like this one) have parts that are nearly impossible, you may get a really bad time if you attempt to complete them.