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#21 Bud Crue

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 03:00 AM

View PostKroete, on 13 March 2019 - 02:52 AM, said:


Or does anyone still think that fp would recover in its current form or any dev would throw more money on a dead mode in a starving game?



https://mwomercs.com...t-mechcon-2018/
https://mwomercs.com...-april-and-may/

We are apparently about to see the fruits of PGI’s latest FP rivival effort, so I guess we will see if there is any “recovery”.

Edited by Bud Crue, 13 March 2019 - 03:01 AM.


#22 MW Waldorf Statler

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 03:21 AM

Thats the game is Comatos, is more the Result of the new Generation Z Kidding Whining skilless Player Faction as PGI Fail (ok thats the new Clientel for thats PGIs Staffs looked)...The new only NASCAR/MaxZoomBrawl and Assaultonly Fraction is very unfunny to find in the Game and here in Forum whining over Teamplay op ...LRM OP when stands open in slow Giants in open Field or Arty is OP when im stand with a Light 4 Minutes for sniping by the same Location...all the Console Kiddies thats have only experience in GTA5 with autoaim...Thats the Time of the Players thats will have autowin without skill and Learning ...Hatecomment ended

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 13 March 2019 - 03:22 AM.


#23 2DaT

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 04:51 AM

View PostKroete, on 13 March 2019 - 02:52 AM, said:

How much is the rate between single- and groupplayers?
Is it a good idea to cater to 10% of the playerbase but expel the majority?

The small minority still playing fp is not enough to support it, but with groups most singleplayers wont touch it,
It would help mwo a lot if they would let the small mirority of groups out of most queues (let them have their groupqueue) and make fp pug only. This would give the majority, playing only pug-matches, a lot more new content and fight the bordomness of qp.

Or does anyone still think that fp would recover in its current form or any dev would throw more money on a dead mode in a starving game?

Mixing small groups (2-3 players) with solo players won't hurt anybody. Many games do that just fine.

Edited by 2DaT, 13 March 2019 - 04:51 AM.


#24 Alexandra Hekmatyar

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 06:40 AM

Don't know if it's dead but I play Forumwarrior Online instead of Mechwarrior Online.

#25 Kotzi

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 07:03 AM

Not dead, just dont play the game the way you want to. Wanna play with some friends? Dont form a group, dont play group queue. Thats not what its meant for. Try Syncdropping and if you are lucky you may play with your friends. No game definitely not dead...

#26 crazytimes

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 08:00 AM

The massive increase in sales and events seems to have stabilised an effective population in qp. Happy with that while it lasts, the weekly events are awesome.

#27 Angel of Annihilation

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 08:11 AM

View PostKiran Yagami, on 12 March 2019 - 11:23 AM, said:

No, but not for lack of trying. Heat spike a couple months ago and LRMageddon coming up in the next patch. PGI is actively working to kill the game.


They have been doing this for years. Generally speaking every balancing pass just seems to make the game a little less fun.

#28 CMDR Sunset Shimmer

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 09:28 AM

I've been running a lot lately with AW, and I'm finding we find group matches pretty regularly. Dunno what you're doing wrong OP.

#29 Sable

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 12:24 PM

No mechwarrior is fine. As for close beta veterans leaving because of blah blah blah decision thats also a bunch of bs. The hardcore fans will complain but they never leave. I've been around since closed beta and i do take breaks to focus on other games every so often. I stopped for about 3 weeks to play farcry 5, i stopped for about a month for Battletech, and most recently i stopped playing for about 3 months for Fallout 76. But i always come back because i loves me some mechwarrior. I've been really enjoying the warhammers as well. I'm not looking forward to the LRM changes but i'll have to see how that plays out. Mechwarrior 5 will tear me away for who knows how long. I do have hopes that they would change the engine over to unreal once MW5 is done. Don't care if they have to take a whole year to do program everything, i think moving to a more versatile engine would benefit everything in the long run. Anyway i'm rambling now. Point is i come back to mechwarrior because i enjoy it.

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 12:36 PM

View PostSable, on 13 March 2019 - 12:24 PM, said:

No mechwarrior is fine. As for close beta veterans leaving because of blah blah blah decision thats also a bunch of bs. The hardcore fans will complain but they never leave. I've been around since closed beta and i do take breaks to focus on other games every so often. I stopped for about 3 weeks to play farcry 5, i stopped for about a month for Battletech, and most recently i stopped playing for about 3 months for Fallout 76. But i always come back because i loves me some mechwarrior. I've been really enjoying the warhammers as well. I'm not looking forward to the LRM changes but i'll have to see how that plays out. Mechwarrior 5 will tear me away for who knows how long. I do have hopes that they would change the engine over to unreal once MW5 is done. Don't care if they have to take a whole year to do program everything, i think moving to a more versatile engine would benefit everything in the long run. Anyway i'm rambling now. Point is i come back to mechwarrior because i enjoy it.


Keep lying to yourself.

#31 Prototelis

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 01:37 PM

View PostOld MW4 Ranger, on 13 March 2019 - 03:21 AM, said:

Thats the game is Comatos, is more the Result of the new Generation Z Kidding Whining skilless Player Faction as



Two things;

1. Most of the people who play this game are over 30. We are the oldest millennials and the youngest GenX'ers, yah ignorant boomer.
2. You don't get to tell anyone they are bad at this game.

#32 Xetelian

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 03:50 PM

I do NOT mind adding group queue to solo queue and having one queue.

With ALL servers selected and its 1am - 5am pacific is like a total deadzone.

#33 Xaat Xuun

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 10:41 PM

it's alive,
heck even SOLO que takes minutes, be it Faction or Quick pug.

although , in faction you're probably spending more time looking for a group

#34 A Really Old Clan Dude

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 07:33 PM

View Post2DaT, on 12 March 2019 - 11:09 AM, said:

Coudn't find a game in the group queue for 2 hours straight. RIP.


wow in QP my wait time is like 2 mins most days.
what game mode are you playing?
did you check the wight class for mechs waiting in queue?
do you only connect to one server area?

I often have a you-tube video running and it always seems to go real quick when waiting for the next game.

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 03:42 AM

View PostPrototelis, on 13 March 2019 - 01:37 PM, said:

Two things;

1. Most of the people who play this game are over 30. We are the oldest millennials and the youngest GenX'ers, yah ignorant boomer.
2. You don't get to tell anyone they are bad at this game.

Nascar , and HPG Basesitting good Tactics? when im see a Jenner thats 1 Minute not can hit a stillstanding Atlas in 500m Range ..what this ? good Play ? when a single Assault ignored 2 Minutes a Light thats run behind him and Fired in his Back , is Good Play ? a Anssault only with a LRM 5 Launcher and a Single inch in the Match ..good Play? and here Treads over Treads ...Polar is Bad, im lurming to Dead , gauss is OP ,LRMs op , Strikes OP ...thats sounds for me not like players with a 30 Years Life experience ? ok , im a very Older Generation thats only have 2 Options learned in her Life , loose or learn and Fight ..fights not whines...thats we learned in the Military Period of the own Life.

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 15 March 2019 - 03:53 AM.


#36 Besh

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 11:05 PM

View Post2DaT, on 13 March 2019 - 04:51 AM, said:

Mixing small groups (2-3 players) with solo players won't hurt anybody. Many games do that just fine.


This has been debated on these Forums a lot of times, and my take off these debates was, and is : if Groups are allowed into QP, you will effectively kill the Game . Rather go with Kroete's suggestion to let Groups have GroupQ, and make FP PUG only . The thought seems weird and outrage some people, but I agree this would be healthier for the Game than what is in existence now . Think about it, casuals/new players being pushed off FP after a few stomps, GroupPlayers whining about noone to play with in FP AND GroupQ .

#37 Warning incoming Humble Dexterer

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 11:11 PM

Faction Play runs for up to ~14 hours per day, roughly through European/US after-work time.

Edited by Humble Dexter, 15 March 2019 - 11:17 PM.


#38 WrathOfDeadguy

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 11:55 PM

MWO used to allow small groups in solo queue.

It permitted unscrupulous high-level players to farm the unholy hell out of uncoordinated PUGs, it was terrible, and there was much rejoicing when it was finally disallowed. It might just have been the one and only time in this game's history that solo queue got better after a major patch.

No more of that silliness, please. Failed experiments should not be repeated.

#39 Monkey Lover

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:13 AM

View PostWrathOfDeadguy, on 15 March 2019 - 11:55 PM, said:

MWO used to allow small groups in solo queue.

It permitted unscrupulous high-level players to farm the unholy hell out of uncoordinated PUGs, it was terrible, and there was much rejoicing when it was finally disallowed. It might just have been the one and only time in this game's history that solo queue got better after a major patch.

No more of that silliness, please. Failed experiments should not be repeated.


That was before the tier system. If people really are tier 1 "best players", small group shouldnt matter.


Edited by Monkey Lover, 16 March 2019 - 12:13 AM.


#40 MiZia

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:22 AM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 16 March 2019 - 12:13 AM, said:

That was before the tier system. If people really are tier 1 "best players", small group shouldnt matter.

If u Still think tier=skill where its just an exp bar u might aswell live on an island :P





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