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#21 Mystere

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 11:09 AM

View PostPrototelis, on 25 March 2019 - 11:04 AM, said:

Note that OP claims the user in question did not engage at all during the game, this is a clear violation of CoC.


Here is the rub. How can he claim such a thing if he was completely unable to detect a stealthed player? Posted Image

#22 Prototelis

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 11:11 AM

View PostMystere, on 25 March 2019 - 11:09 AM, said:


Here is the rub. How can he claim such a thing if he was completely unable to detect a stealthed player? Posted Image


By reviewing the information available at end game score screen.

#23 DjStickyMouse

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 11:13 AM

View PostPrototelis, on 25 March 2019 - 11:04 AM, said:

For the former; The GMs absolutely do follow up on emailed moderation reports. Its how we are getting people playing multiple accounts against themself in Solaris banned.

For the Latter; which is why you submit a match ID. The GMs can access a lot more data than we have available through the public API and make that determination.

Note that OP claims the user in question did not engage at all during the game, this is a clear violation of CoC.

I'm not agreeing with or supporting him (not enough evidence), just forwarding him to proper channels.


I was mostly going off the fact that when it came to them being last they had no damage what so ever and was sitting stationary with stealth active in our back lines. maybe he got a few shots off but highly doubtful

#24 Weeny Machine

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 11:13 AM

View PostDjStickyMouse, on 25 March 2019 - 10:01 AM, said:

Is there a reason why its ok for a light mech to HIDE ALL GAME.... NOT PARTICIPATE AT ALL.... then when they are the last Mech left alive because they didn't do anything but hide all game....

It is some how perfectly ok for them to continue to leave stealth active, run and hide for the last 10 minutes of the game?

Why am I the ******* for not appreciating that type of behavior?

Suddenly Im the toxic one for calling out that piss poor behavior.... yeah ok


I didn't know a Thanatos is a light mech ;)

#25 DjStickyMouse

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 11:14 AM

View PostPrototelis, on 25 March 2019 - 11:11 AM, said:

By reviewing the information available at end game score screen.


also by spectating..... the player was on my team... at least for the most recent map that triggered this

#26 PhoenixFire55

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 11:25 AM

View PostDjStickyMouse, on 25 March 2019 - 10:19 AM, said:

I totally understand that... but when the score is 4-11 and the stealth mech is the last alive with 10 mins left on the board.... why is it ok for them to waste the rest of our time?


Why is it ok for you to play like **** and evaporate in 5 mins? If the enemy team can't kill a stealth whatever for 10 mins it means [Redacted]. Match lasts 15 mins, deal with it.

Edited by draiocht, 29 March 2019 - 06:09 AM.
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#27 admiralbenbow123

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 11:32 AM

View PostDjStickyMouse, on 25 March 2019 - 10:01 AM, said:

Is there a reason why its ok for a light mech to HIDE ALL GAME.... NOT PARTICIPATE AT ALL.... then when they are the last Mech left alive because they didn't do anything but hide all game....

It is some how perfectly ok for them to continue to leave stealth active, run and hide for the last 10 minutes of the game?

Why am I the ******* for not appreciating that type of behavior?

Suddenly Im the toxic one for calling out that piss poor behavior.... yeah ok


In this situation you can just report them for non-participation or just tell them that they are wasting everyone's time including their time and that they won't win anyways and things like that.

#28 DjStickyMouse

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 11:35 AM

View PostPhoenixFire55, on 25 March 2019 - 11:25 AM, said:


Why is it ok for you to play like **** and evaporate in 5 mins? If the enemy team can't kill a stealth whatever for 10 mins it means [Redacted]. Match lasts 15 mins, deal with it.


Because non participation is the only reason they were alive and the rest of the team wasnt????? [Redacted]

Edited by draiocht, 29 March 2019 - 06:10 AM.
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#29 PhoenixFire55

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 11:44 AM

View PostDjStickyMouse, on 25 March 2019 - 11:35 AM, said:

Because non participation is the only reason they were alive and the rest of the team wasnt????? [Redacted]


And how do you have any kind of idea about the amount of their participation, oh smart one? Did you look at what they did all match instead of doing smth yourself? That would explain a 4-11 score indeed.

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#30 Shadowomega1

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 12:06 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 25 March 2019 - 10:38 AM, said:

Submit matchID to PGI.

Failure to engage is against CoC. We recently had this drama when a whole team ran from another in FP for 25 minutes. It was made P.clear that everyone has to do everything possible to win that match the moment they click the play button.


Had something similar in Boreal Vault as the attacking team refused to open the gate. When one decided to go against it several on that team tried to tk him before he destroyed the gate generator, only ended up with them tking him after he opened it. Defenders proceeded to attack the attackers and butchered the screeching childish players.

As for Hiding and powering/avoiding a fight yea report those players. However, if their still moving to engage and you report their position and or heading then you are in the wrong and can be banned. As another player report the location of another mech and my mechs location as we fell into the low ground on Frozen City (classic night) and had to go around to get back up to the city.

Edited by Shadowomega1, 25 March 2019 - 12:11 PM.


#31 DjStickyMouse

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 12:07 PM

View PostPhoenixFire55, on 25 March 2019 - 11:44 AM, said:


And how do you have any kind of idea about the amount of their participation, oh smart one? Did you look at what they did all match instead of doing smth yourself? That would explain a 4-11 score indeed.


combination of spectating them after dying in the main battle and their score at the end of the match.... OH OH OH and seeing where they sat when i started spectating.... behind friendly lines.... just chilling with stealth active with a whole 93 damage at the end of the game............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................


Do i need to spoon feed you more?

#32 Ihlrath

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 12:18 PM

There's been matches where I've had less than 100 damage in a stealth locust. That doesn't mean I wasn't contributing.

#33 PhoenixFire55

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 12:25 PM

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Edited by draiocht, 29 March 2019 - 06:19 AM.
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#34 Ihlrath

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 01:06 PM

Hehe mythical stealth whatever...

Woo! I'm a unicorn!

#35 Grus

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 01:08 PM

Well the light had 11 potatoes on his team the up and died.. possibly in a spud tornado... he hes already going to have a loss to w/l and match score, so why should he HAVE TO have a loss to kd?

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 02:31 PM

View PostIhlrath, on 25 March 2019 - 12:18 PM, said:

There's been matches where I've had less than 100 damage in a stealth locust. That doesn't mean I wasn't contributing.

I've had lots of those in the non stealth lcts. Once mastered they are great mechs. Sadly I think they've taken over all the things the 35 ton mechs use to do just as an excuse for pgi to add them to the game. That rescale is my trigger when it comes to the light mech 35t class.

On a more positive note from the past as proof of how well you can do with an lct:
https://imgur.com/gallery/s8WBwlA

#37 mabo

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 03:20 PM

Stealth armour needs to be retooled.

If you can't have stealth armour without having ECM, then it follows that if that ECM is jammed by another ECM - the stealth armour should no longer work when in range of a jamming ECM.

#38 Mystere

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Posted 25 March 2019 - 03:31 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 25 March 2019 - 11:11 AM, said:

By reviewing the information available at end game score screen.


Which he never showed. He just had … accusations.

View PostDjStickyMouse, on 25 March 2019 - 11:14 AM, said:




also by spectating..... the player was on my team... at least for the most recent map that triggered this

Now that was information you should have given in the first place. However, it also tells me you should have just exited the fight and dropped in another Mech.


Also, all my other points still hold.




View Postadmiralbenbow123, on 25 March 2019 - 11:32 AM, said:

In this situation you can just report them for non-participation or just tell them that they are wasting everyone's time including their time and that they won't win anyways and things like that.


He should have dropped in another mech.

Edited by Mystere, 25 March 2019 - 03:39 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2019 - 03:40 PM

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Edited by draiocht, 29 March 2019 - 06:51 AM.
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Posted 25 March 2019 - 03:49 PM

View PostSpheroid, on 25 March 2019 - 10:30 AM, said:

[Redacted]

That's team treason. Violation of COC.
Even if he violates COC in Skirmish (acceptable in other modes due to Objectives)
Also blame lack of a Forfeit function.

Edited by draiocht, 29 March 2019 - 06:45 AM.
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