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Escef, on 07 April 2019 - 09:56 AM, said:

Yeah, that was my initial response. There's a world of difference between things like what happened to Emmett Till (racially motivated murder, witnesses jailed to prevent testimony, etc.), and a bunch of idiots eating soap on a dare. Not even comparable.

So, if it came down to it, you'd rather your grandkids be horrified at you condoning brutal murders than soap? I dunno, do you even realize what you're saying? I mean, even as a joke, that's screwed up.

I do realize what I'm saying. That some societal changes are good, and others are bad. I'm saying you should not conform to societal changes simply because they're happening (that's how many horrible things happened historically speaking). I'm also generally not in favor of any sort of censorship.

You on the other hand are making up something that has nothing to do with what I said, and accusing me of something I do not believe. People like you are a major problem with todays societal changes.

What you're doing is like if I said because you support censoring what people say you support the killing of tens of millions of people. Why do you support the killing of tens of millions of people? Do you even realize what you're saying? I mean, even as a joke, that's screwed up.

[PocketYoda]

OP have you actually attempted to use other weapons outside of LRMs, because there are some.

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Mole, on 06 April 2019 - 11:55 AM, said:

I'd like to know exactly what buzzword you spat out that made Escef call you a racist. People don't generally call people racist unless they've... you know... said something that sounded kinda racist.

Do you live under a rock?

So much as disagreeing with somebody can get you called a "racist" nowadays.

[Temporary Axis]

Mole, on 06 April 2019 - 11:55 AM, said:

I'd like to know exactly what buzzword you spat out that made Escef call you a racist. People don't generally call people racist unless they've... you know... said something that sounded kinda racist.

errrr.... Ash?

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Temporary Axis, on 07 April 2019 - 10:09 PM, said:

errrr.... Ash?

Yeah apparently simply saying a name, 3 letters, is enough for people to go postal.

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Escef, on 04 April 2019 - 04:28 AM, said:

Being called out for...? Look, if you don't want people to think that's what you are, stop using their buzzwords.

Uhh... "White Knighting" is not a White Supremacist term at all... its a derogatory term for fake male feminists.

Is Racist/Sexist/Misogynist/Fascist/etc just a big ol' ball of "people I don't like" or something?

[Temporary Axis]

Escef, on 06 April 2019 - 09:40 AM, said:

And your phrasing said that I then "decided" to start my stream... I decided to start my stream at that time months beforehand, it's called a schedule. Your phrasing is suspect. The fact that you don't recognize that might mean that you genuinely do not realize when you use white nationalist jargon.

I have spoken my peace on this in another venue. If you care (and I doubt you do) it shouldn't be difficult to find.

So you made a decision. Thank you for agreeing with me. The temporal nature of that decision is not my concern nor required for the current discussion. You could have just as easily decided not to stream that day, regardless of schedule.

That being said, how you choose to interpret my statement beyond the reasonable reader is not my concern. Good luck with that.

Your phrasing is being commented on for being asinine and your questionable semantic bending being highly childish...

If the venue was not this forum, them please supply the name so I may go and see your version of events( I am endeavoring to check your forum posts).

You are conveniently trying to spin esoteric semantics and look like you are somehow winning an argument you aren't even engaging in.

Good luck with that.

Edited by Temporary Axis, 08 April 2019 - 06:10 PM.

[Movano]

Temporary Axis, on 07 April 2019 - 10:44 PM, said:

Your phrasing is being commented on for being asinine and your questionable semantic bending being highly childish...

If the venue was not this forum, then please supply the name so I may go and see your version of events( I am endeavoring to check your forum posts).

You are conventionally trying to spin esoteric semantics and look like you are somehow winning an argument you aren't even engaging in.

Didn't he also come into your chat and call everyone that was watching your stream a looser and garbage? You know, a reasonable thing to do...

[Escef]

Hazeclaw, on 07 April 2019 - 04:13 PM, said:

I do realize what I'm saying. That some societal changes are good, and others are bad. I'm saying you should not conform to societal changes simply because they're happening (that's how many horrible things happened historically speaking). I'm also generally not in favor of any sort of censorship.

Yeah, the "tide pod challenge thing" was FAR from as widespread as you want to believe it is, and is NOT a part of societal change. Also, societal change is neither innately a good thing, nor a bad thing. But if you don't keep up with the efforts to make a more just society, well, I've already talked about that, now haven't I?

Hazeclaw, on 07 April 2019 - 04:13 PM, said:

You on the other hand are making up something that has nothing to do with what I said, and accusing me of something I do not believe. People like you are a major problem with todays societal changes.

I didn't "make up" anything, you implied things that you probably didn't mean to imply. Which is part of why I challenged it in the way I did.

Hazeclaw, on 07 April 2019 - 04:13 PM, said:

What you're doing is like if I said because you support censoring what people say you support the killing of tens of millions of people. Why do you support the killing of tens of millions of people? Do you even realize what you're saying? I mean, even as a joke, that's screwed up.

Here's a better question: when did I support censorship? Because I didn't. I DO, however, support any business's right to impose a code of conduct upon those that use its services to publish their ideas. I don't think a business should be forced to give someone a pulpit to preach from. Are you trying to imply that businesses should be forced to do such things? (I don't think you are, but it seems to me that you might be holding a position that you did not think through the consequences of.)

So, yeah, If you said, "...because you support censoring what people say you support the killing of tens of millions of people," you would be telling two lies about me. What I did was attempt to point out that the logic of your statement said some pretty horrible stuff. Holy crap, man, no more self aware than a dog licking its butt in public.

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Movano, on 07 April 2019 - 10:31 PM, said:

Uhh... "White Knighting" is not a White Supremacist term at all... its a derogatory term for fake male feminists.

Is Racist/Sexist/Misogynist/Fascist/etc just a big ol' ball of "people I don't like" or something?

I could ask you the same thing about all the MRA/incel/MGTOW/alt-right buzzwords. I'm familiar with what "White Knighting" is, and it has a broader definition than what you spouted here. And I've found that the groups I mentioned just now have a massive overlap with the white supremacist movement.

Y'know what? I don't even know why I'm bothering. I'm trying to educate people that want to be ignorant in this thread. I keep forgetting what the only thing this crowd seems to understand is. And it isn't something that can be done in this venue.

[Alienized]

delicious.

Edited by Alienized, 08 April 2019 - 09:57 AM.

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Escef, on 08 April 2019 - 09:07 AM, said:

I didn't "make up" anything, you implied things that you probably didn't mean to imply. Which is part of why I challenged it in the way I did.

Do you even listen to yourself? If I did not mean to imply something, I didn't imply it. The rest is just you making s**t up

Escef, on 08 April 2019 - 09:07 AM, said:

you would be telling two lies about me. What I did was attempt to point out that the logic of your statement said some pretty horrible stuff. Holy crap, man, no more self aware than a dog licking its butt in public.

Yes I did, just like you told defamatory lies about me. Doesn't feel good does it? Again, you are making up logic in my statement that hasn't even crossed my mind. If you're a closet bigot who thinks he can hide it by pointing your finger at others, please don't project your ideology onto others

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Movano, on 07 April 2019 - 10:31 PM, said:

Uhh... "White Knighting" is not a White Supremacist term at all... its a derogatory term for fake male feminists.

???

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Movano, on 07 April 2019 - 10:31 PM, said:

Is Racist/Sexist/Misogynist/Fascist/etc just a big ol' ball of "people I don't like" or something?

These days it's often either that or "people who don't unquestioningly agree with me".

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Thread moved to Ktown for nonconstructive/off-topic discussions, picking fights and insults.

[Mole]

Movano, on 07 April 2019 - 10:31 PM, said:

Uhh... "White Knighting" is not a White Supremacist term at all... its a derogatory term for fake male feminists.

Is Racist/Sexist/Misogynist/Fascist/etc just a big ol' ball of "people I don't like" or something?

I thought white knighting was a dude defending a girl for no other purpose than he thinks doing so would get him laid in the end.

[Movano]

Escef, on 08 April 2019 - 09:25 AM, said:

I could ask you the same thing about all the MRA/incel/MGTOW/alt-right buzzwords. I'm familiar with what "White Knighting" is, and it has a broader definition than what you spouted here. And I've found that the groups I mentioned just now have a massive overlap with the white supremacist movement.

Y'know what? I don't even know why I'm bothering. I'm trying to educate people that want to be ignorant in this thread. I keep forgetting what the only thing this crowd seems to understand is. And it isn't something that can be done in this venue.

Read like a book

Mole, on 08 April 2019 - 01:37 PM, said:

I thought white knighting was a dude defending a girl for no other purpose than he thinks doing so would get him laid in the end.

You're actually right TBH

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Movano, on 09 April 2019 - 12:53 AM, said:

Read like a book

Well, if you say so, son. But, hey, if that's what you want to identify as, go for it.

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Escef, on 09 April 2019 - 04:18 AM, said:

Well, if you say so, son. But, hey, if that's what you want to identify as, go for it.

You're actually proud that you label everyone you disagree with as alt-right? That legitimately astounds me.