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[GuardDogg]

Wil McCullough, on 16 April 2019 - 10:57 PM, said:

I'm not angry in the least lol. It find you amusing actually. Why do you think i'll be angry? I have no dog in this race. It's not like giving you advice increases my stats, you know.

I just want to defend other Assault pilots from Stupidity. We all know we have seen those odd pilots. But some things are pathetic from other pilots. They expect the impossible.

*Note*
Just think, I used to be a Mechwarrior trainer in MW4 (weekends). Those training skills do not help in MWO. Totally different.

Edited by GuardDogg, 16 April 2019 - 11:17 PM.

[Wil McCullough]

GuardDogg, on 16 April 2019 - 11:13 PM, said:

I just want to defend other Assault pilots from Stupidity. We all know we have seen those odd pilots. But some things are pathetic from other pilots. They expect the impossible.

*Note*
Just think, I used to be a Mechwarrior trainer in MW4 (weekends). Those training skills do not help in MWO. Totally different.

There will always be unreasonable light pilots looking to blame their assaults for losses. There will also always be assault pilots refusing to admit that they did goof up and are at least partly responsible for the loss. Right now you're coming across as the latter and none of us here are the former.

[GuardDogg]

Wil McCullough, on 16 April 2019 - 11:36 PM, said:

There will always be unreasonable light pilots looking to blame their assaults for losses. There will also always be assault pilots refusing to admit that they did goof up and are at least partly responsible for the loss. Right now you're coming across as the latter and none of us here are the former.

I am not the only one to admit I screw up some times. I do not screw up all the time. I do get lousy teams, I can not carry, like I would enjoy to (unlike the first years of MWO I was okay). As the years went on in MWO, the Battles began to change its ways. The thing is the last round before making the main post. Was in a round "Domination" (polar highlands) Lights are at circle already. Mediums/assaults moving fast they could to get there in the circle. One of pilots starting screaming on mic "Why aren't the assaults (lance) here?", swearing and cursing, giving commands. Now, been hearing a lot of this lately, and the complaining of assault pilots not doing this, assaults not doing that. Not directly at me, but the at the assault pilots, even when I am piloting a heavy, medium. These complainers expect the assaults to be at a location at the very exact time, where they are. How is that possible? And do expect things from assault pilots. This is a frequent problem. I do my best, but once the enemy sees me (the assault pilot), I am first to go or the other assault pilots. Not the other class mechs unless their is a opportunity of freedom to do so. Players are calling out targets "Alpha" (for example), but the team is hitting other targets for survival. I watched 10 mechs try to destroy a locust, that came in the middle of team, and the locust got away from all that firepower. How was that possible? 10 mechs firing a locust in the middle of the pack and the reg wasn't happening. This is how I say lights are op in MWO. So, when a light comes behind assaults. The lights can take the assaults out, when done right. My Marauder 2 tonight was able to blow away lights tonight. So maybe the Marauder 2 will be a game changer or what I say how light are impossible to take down, due to hit reg, pro pilots and other.

Edited by GuardDogg, 16 April 2019 - 11:55 PM.

[Alienized]

RickySpanish, on 16 April 2019 - 06:48 PM, said:

They cannot, not reliably. Check my Jarl's list, see that 99% outlier? That was me in T4 in a Scorch over a couple of weeks here and there, getting 6 kill games. See where it dips? That's me trying to brawl in higher tiers until I start trying other builds. In general, brawlers get called out when you are in games with good players, then they just die or get shut out of range. It is still possible to get lucky but it is an uphill battle. The Sleipnir though actually is fantastic, that's the *only* assault I would ever brawl in though.

dunno man, brawly assaults are my main game but i like them mobile with JJ's. so basically i play them like fat heavies *shrugs*
ofc its a uphill battle all time but thats just the part i really like. i never got called out tho for playing brawlers, just for playing victors at times.... which just might be my most played mech. have to check if it actually passed the QKD-5k i played after invasion started

in fact, most players i typically play with (even FW) know that they only have to follow me
i always end up first going in, my aim isnt all the best so i go hard and let the better aimers do what they can do best and i take the damage first. im fine with that, we usually win and i still get a good score.
i would be totally wasted trying to snipe, im just not good at that (and way too impatient)

funny tho that we met in battle earlier i love that gargoyle build with only 180m range

[Koniving]

Jackal Noble, on 16 April 2019 - 11:00 PM, said:

Why do you always post material from like 3-5 years ago?

Because it fits the discussion and that's when I actually gave a **** about the game as that's when it was fun.

Beyond that point it stopped being fun enough to take random screenshots.

Though among others I have taken, include killing piranhas with king crabs loaded with MGs. That's in the last year.

[Alienized]

xe N on, on 16 April 2019 - 08:09 PM, said:

The problem is not that assault mechs cannot brawl. The problem is that most other player (at least on EU servers) won't support pushing with you until they got numerical superiority. They just stay behind. And the assault will be focused down.

Another problem is that on certain maps even with numerical superiority brawling starts quite late. In this case the assault does no damage until late game. That wastes potential damage.

It's the same problem with 39 kph assaults. With a team protecting them they would be fine. But you cannot expect that sort of team play in QP.

to me, its more like abusing the typical nascar than actually hoping for my team to get into the fight.
you can play differently than following the obvious rules and do the unexpected with those 39 kph mechs or the brawlers. its all about knowing the enemy movement and map knowledge with them.

pugs do what they want to do anyway. at times, a simple waiting time of 3 minutes is enough and you are already in the back of the nascaring teams what else do you want as a brawler :> yummi rear ends

[Wil McCullough]

GuardDogg, on 16 April 2019 - 11:54 PM, said:

I am not the only one to admit I screw up some times. I do not screw up all the time. I do get lousy teams, I can not carry, like I would enjoy to (unlike the first years of MWO I was okay). As the years went on in MWO, the Battles began to change its ways. The thing is the last round before making the main post. Was in a round "Domination" (polar highlands) Lights are at circle already. Mediums/assaults moving fast they could to get there in the circle. One of pilots starting screaming on mic "Why aren't the assaults (lance) here?", swearing and cursing, giving commands. Now, been hearing a lot of this lately, and the complaining of assault pilots not doing this, assaults not doing that. Not directly at me, but the at the assault pilots, even when I am piloting a heavy, medium. These complainers expect the assaults to be at a location at the very exact time, where they are. How is that possible? And do expect things from assault pilots. This is a frequent problem. I do my best, but once the enemy sees me (the assault pilot), I am first to go or the other assault pilots. Not the other class mechs unless their is a opportunity of freedom to do so. Players are calling out targets "Alpha" (for example), but the team is hitting other targets for survival. I watched 10 mechs try to destroy a locust, that came in the middle of team, and the locust got away from all that firepower. How was that possible? 10 mechs firing a locust in the middle of the pack and the reg wasn't happening. This is how I say lights are op in MWO. So, when a light comes behind assaults. The lights can take the assaults out, when done right. My Marauder 2 tonight was able to blow away lights tonight. So maybe the Marauder 2 will be a game changer or what I say how light are impossible to take down, due to hit reg, pro pilots and other.

If you have played since beta then you would have noticed that assault pilots, not lights are some of the biggest crybabies of tue community. Try piloting a light and count the number of times a dead assaut pilot starts whinging about how you're not holding locks for him at the front while also screening him from enemy lights while he's hiding at the back.

[PhoenixFire55]

GuardDogg, on 16 April 2019 - 07:24 PM, said:

You do not know my builds. I just been terrible assault pilot, a lot lately.

Still waiting on the news bout how that 5xERPPC Raven is working out for ya.

Can't be worse than a 2xRAC5+2MPL Fafnir, right?
Or your other "powerful build" the infamous KingCrab with 6xHMGs+3xStreak6s+1ERML.

[PhoenixFire55]

GuardDogg, on 16 April 2019 - 11:13 PM, said:

I just want to defend other Assault pilots from Stupidity.

Defend the stupidity from Stupidity using even bigger STUPIDITY.

I think this here is the bottom line of this thread and I can't emphasize it enough ...

S T U P I D I T Y !!!

[Alienized]

and there i thought that i run some stupid builds

[PhoenixFire55]

Alienized, on 17 April 2019 - 12:37 AM, said:

and there i thought that i run some stupid builds

It isn't about running stupid builds, its about thinking your stupid build is "power".

GuardDogg, on 15 April 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

Then power builds. A King Crab with 6 Heavy MGs, 3 SSRMs, and ERML

Oh Lord, that POWER!

[Alienized]

PhoenixFire55, on 17 April 2019 - 12:45 AM, said:

It isn't about running stupid builds, its about thinking your stupid build is "power".

I AM POWER!!11einself

sometimes im glad you dont see my loadouts in the battle
but yes, those HMG's are infinite power! propably has a max std engine in it .... >_>

[PhoenixFire55]

Alienized, on 17 April 2019 - 01:03 AM, said:

I AM POWER!!11einself

sometimes im glad you dont see my loadouts in the battle
but yes, those HMG's are infinite power! propably has a max std engine in it .... >_>

It doesn't matter which engine it has in his dreams becuase there is no KGC variant that can have 6 ballistics and 3 missiles at the same time. Not in this game anyway.

[Alienized]

PhoenixFire55, on 17 April 2019 - 01:21 AM, said:

It doesn't matter which engine it has in his dreams becuase there is no KGC variant that can have 6 ballistics and 3 missiles at the same time. Not in this game anyway.

oh come on man dont shatter his dreams that much :S

he tries, ya know?

[Horseman]

GuardDogg, on 13 April 2019 - 07:14 PM, said:

Team member is yelling (can hear the frustration) at the assault pilot(s) to hurry up, get over here.

Because we see too many assaults:

• stop dead in the middle of an open field to take pot shots at the two pixels of an enemy mech they can see
  
• deliberately take excessively long routes
  
• outright run from the battle

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When in fact, one; under attack from enemy lights, or mediums.

Then why the hell didn't the assault communicate this to begin with?

Edited by Horseman, 17 April 2019 - 02:50 AM.

[Eatit]

OP,

You were in a bad/rare situation. Some guy with a chip on his shoulder yelled at you.

These are not the the norm in this game. I won't say they don't happen but it's pretty rare.

Let it go man. Getting upset about it gives it more credence than it deserves.

Lights are not more powerful than Assaults. Yeah sometimes the hitreg is bad, it happens. Let it go man. Have fun and ignore those people that think this is a real war and that they are accomplishing more than just playing a video game. For some people winning in a video game is one of the few wins they get in life. It's important to them and they yell at others they perceive are making it harder for them. Ignore them is the best advice I can give you.

[Feral Clown]

PhoenixFire55, on 17 April 2019 - 12:23 AM, said:

Defend the stupidity from Stupidity using even bigger STUPIDITY.

I think this here is the bottom line of this thread and I can't emphasize it enough ...

S T U P I D I T Y !!!

Kind of impressive this thread has somehow managed to go on for eleven pages given the content.

[Alienized]

Eatit, on 17 April 2019 - 02:37 AM, said:

OP,

You were in a bad/rare situation. Some guy with a chip on his shoulder yelled at you.

These are not the the norm in this game. I won't say they don't happen but it's pretty rare.

i hope you wont ever meet me in a battle then

no, too many players actually are pretty mad when players cant learn.
i dont expect much from players but the basic idea how to play.
if i see 10 mechs just sit still at the worst spot behind my pushing assault then i will get mad af.

people not having the slightest clue will make me mad (so i get mad often, yes )
most of the players i play with are t1 and they play like utter scrubs. that just cant be true.
they dotn take high grounds when their mechs are suited for it, they dont check their own flanks, they just look forward and if the lemmingtrain stops, they will stop and put a finger up their nose searching for food.

i can assume that most players have a lot of battles played to know better and thats what makes me mad the most.

[Wil McCullough]

Alienized, on 17 April 2019 - 02:47 AM, said:

they just look forward and if the lemmingtrain stops, they will stop and put a finger up their nose searching for food.

This sentence justifies why the forums should have a "lol" reaction.

[Eatit]

Alienized, on 17 April 2019 - 02:47 AM, said:

i hope you wont ever meet me in a battle then

no, too many players actually are pretty mad when players cant learn.
i dont expect much from players but the basic idea how to play.
if i see 10 mechs just sit still at the worst spot behind my pushing assault then i will get mad af.

people not having the slightest clue will make me mad (so i get mad often, yes )
most of the players i play with are t1 and they play like utter scrubs. that just cant be true.
they dotn take high grounds when their mechs are suited for it, they dont check their own flanks, they just look forward and if the lemmingtrain stops, they will stop and put a finger up their nose searching for food.

i can assume that most players have a lot of battles played to know better and thats what makes me mad the most.

I'm sorry that playing a game meant for fun gets you so angry. There may be other factors driving your anger. You may be using the game as an outlet for your frustrations. I don't know. In any case it's just a game man. Try to have fun since that is presumably the reason we play games. I've been on teams and got shot in the back by my buddies, almost to death. It was funny and I laughed. It for sure didn't help us win but I play to have a good time and it was funny.

That is the biggest issue I see with MWO right now most if not all of our friends left. We play with total anonymous strangers and the fun gets lost. We then turn to winning as the fun. I've had some seriously fun games where we didn't win. If it's getting you to the point of anger something is wrong. Take a long break, get drunk, get high if it's allowed where you live. If you're using the game as your anger outlet, please do the rest of us a favor and don't.