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#121 Chortles

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 07:38 AM

View PostHammerMaster, on 20 April 2019 - 04:05 AM, said:

Show me yours. I'll show you mine.
While I tend to the lore/source side, I made no claims to have balance experience.
I'll challenge you and a few certain people to show their PhD in Mecha-balance. He clearly takes issue with LRM in that frothing post and I'm just Captain Obviously pointing it out.
Who are you mad at?

What is map exploitation?

#122 HammerMaster

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 07:41 AM

View PostChortles, on 20 April 2019 - 07:38 AM, said:

What is map exploitation?

What are you fishing for?

#123 Chortles

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 07:47 AM

View PostHammerMaster, on 20 April 2019 - 07:41 AM, said:

What are you fishing for?

For you to finish your argument.

#124 HammerMaster

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 07:49 AM

View PostChortles, on 20 April 2019 - 07:47 AM, said:

For you to finish your argument.

Pretty sure I wasn't arguing.
Explaining those two words with more words is redundant.
You're on a fishing expedition for me to say something YOU can argue about.

Edited by HammerMaster, 20 April 2019 - 07:50 AM.


#125 Alienized

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 07:55 AM

after playing one of these jumping huntsman with atm's, hell they are so annoying.
idf locking surely needs no damn help.

#126 K O Z A K

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 07:56 AM

View PostHammerMaster, on 20 April 2019 - 03:29 AM, said:

Hates LRMs.


That's really funny cause when we get a lrm friendly map he's one of the first people to say "lurms?"

Maybe as someone who plays all playstyles he just has a much better grasp of how they're balanced against each other?

#127 HammerMaster

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 08:01 AM

View PostHazeclaw, on 20 April 2019 - 07:56 AM, said:

That's really funny cause when we get a lrm friendly map he's one of the first people to say "lurms?"

Maybe as someone who plays all playstyles he just has a much better grasp of how they're balanced against each other?

Then why does he want the reticule change more nerfed?

#128 Chortles

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 08:05 AM

View PostHammerMaster, on 20 April 2019 - 07:49 AM, said:

Pretty sure I wasn't arguing.
Explaining those two words with more words is redundant.
You're on a fishing expedition for me to say something YOU can argue about.

Then I'll explain it for you since you are incapable of doing so yourself.
You responded to my post with an angry rant about Crimson and loadouts not mattering when it comes to drop decks. Your previous post mentions that drop decks can't be implemented because "map exploitation". Since I stated that people will just switch to the meta strategy for certain maps and you said people would just exploit the map, they are inherently the same thing. I pointed out your hypocrisy and you refuse to explain yourself to maintain your pseudo-intellectual position.

Here's a tip for you when you want to have a discussion with other people next time: don't start with by insulting them.

#129 My Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 08:06 AM

Having played a lot in a LRM boat just before and after the last patch, they're fine. I've never ran into issues of IDF having long lock-on time or really even noticed the supposed "if you're out of sensor range you get the lock-on time debuff".

In fact I've been having far more success with LRMs than I have ever had because hard boating IS LRM-10s offers such a potent loadout.

Edited by QuakeRiley, 20 April 2019 - 08:07 AM.


#130 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 08:09 AM

No, indirect fire SHOULD be cumbersome

#131 K O Z A K

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 08:24 AM

View PostHammerMaster, on 20 April 2019 - 08:01 AM, said:

Then why does he want the reticule change more nerfed?


View PostHazeclaw, on 20 April 2019 - 07:56 AM, said:

as someone who plays all playstyles he just has a much better grasp of how they're balanced against each other


#132 HammerMaster

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 08:27 AM

View PostHazeclaw, on 20 April 2019 - 08:24 AM, said:


Right no grasp
Anyone except you and the other guy who keep saying "grasp" gets no say in any matters.

#133 HammerMaster

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 08:30 AM

View PostChortles, on 20 April 2019 - 08:05 AM, said:

Then I'll explain it for you since you are incapable of doing so yourself.
You responded to my post with an angry rant about Crimson and loadouts not mattering when it comes to drop decks. Your previous post mentions that drop decks can't be implemented because "map exploitation". Since I stated that people will just switch to the meta strategy for certain maps and you said people would just exploit the map, they are inherently the same thing. I pointed out your hypocrisy and you refuse to explain yourself to maintain your pseudo-intellectual position.

Here's a tip for you when you want to have a discussion with other people next time: don't start with by insulting them.

Saying BS is insulting to you?
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And how is saying no hypocritical?
Pseudo? Guess it takes one to know one.
Why are you crossing the threads?

Edited by HammerMaster, 20 April 2019 - 09:47 AM.


#134 Feral Clown

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 11:11 AM

View PostHammerMaster, on 20 April 2019 - 03:29 AM, said:

Hates LRMs.


That's what you garnered from what I said?

Wanting them to be as difficult/easy/similar to all the other weapons in game is far from hate and I have tons and tons of lurmboats and there are videos on Reckless' stream that show me and my group having a ton of fun wiping people off the map.

What I hate is imbalance, but you seem to want to offhandedly dismiss anything that doesn't fit your narrative so undoubtedly this will be lost on you.

View PostChortles, on 20 April 2019 - 07:47 AM, said:

For you to finish your argument.


Or better yet even have one. It's easy to say 'oh he hates lurms' so that way in his 'mind' he can dismiss anything that doesn't fit what he believes.

#135 HammerMaster

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 11:20 AM

Ok negative Nancies. I'll remind you I said no to this thread. But you're so ready to detract and attack.
Whatever.

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 11:36 AM

View PostHammerMaster, on 20 April 2019 - 11:20 AM, said:

Ok negative Nancies. I'll remind you I said no to this thread. But you're so ready to detract and attack.
Whatever.


I am far from attacking. I am outright calling bs on you dismissing what I said because you have decided it's because I hate lurms.

#137 HammerMaster

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 11:45 AM

View PostFeral Clown, on 20 April 2019 - 11:36 AM, said:


I am far from attacking. I am outright calling bs on you dismissing what I said because you have decided it's because I hate lurms.

Oh! Are we not getting along now too!?
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Posted 20 April 2019 - 03:52 PM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 18 April 2019 - 05:59 AM, said:

In the name of being fair and equitable to Vellron.

I ran a LRM mech tonight. First time in quite a while. I did it live, on stream, for all to see... on HPG Manifold.

1408dmg / 3 Kills / 4 KMDD

OVERALL
BREAKDOWN

If you stop being a parasite and get your own locks. LRMs are fine. IDF, DF, whatever.

The point: Stop the parasitic "get me locks" attitude and start exposing. Simple.

Is there a reason for a Clan mech to use LRMs over ATMs at this point?

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 04:02 PM

View PostInfinityBall, on 20 April 2019 - 03:52 PM, said:

Is there a reason for a Clan mech to use LRMs over ATMs at this point?


More flexible range, still has crazy IDF arc that shoots over stuff

#140 InfinityBall

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 07:08 PM

Still looking for an answer: is there a reason Clan would use LRMs instead of ATMs at this point? Aside from knowing they'll get locks behind hills





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