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[Samuli Salonen]

Is the issue of Mercs not being able to advance on their Merc ranks anymore going to be addressed?

[TinFoilHat]

Grus, on 23 May 2019 - 04:56 AM, said:

Tin foil hat***

Look, leave me out of it. I don’t know why they didn’t release a mech pack. I just wanna hear some more updates on FP fixes!

[THUG GOON]

Give me back my unit Standings!!!! I want to die for the Front Corn. It will be glorious and he who walks behind the rows will praise me for my sacrifice. I am a team player not a solo player and without my efforts benefitting my unit in some way shape or form I feel stripped of my boxing gloves.

[Eklektikos]

Put me down as another habitual FPer in favour of a roll-back and re-think.

Edited by Eklektikos, 23 May 2019 - 05:41 AM.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

Nr1Noob, on 23 May 2019 - 05:34 AM, said:

They had a holiday Monday, they just in hiding now.

sound strategy.
let it all burn down. once the ashes are cold, they throw us a bone and we're happy again..

..only that we won't be.

it's thursday afternoon here. monday same time I cancel my mw5 preorder. I can't, for my life, remember any other company that wanted to lose loyal, paying customers as badly as they seem to.


*fun fact: fw-queue right now is 0:1, sometimes 0:2.
good job PGI, pls continue your excellent work.

Edited by Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, 23 May 2019 - 05:43 AM.

[JKFletcher]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, on 23 May 2019 - 05:40 AM, said:

it's thursday afternoon here. monday same time I cancel my mw5 preorder. I can't, for my life, remember any other company that wanted to lose loyal, paying customers as badly as they seem to.

iirc you cant refund your preorder if you redeemed any of the codes.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

JKFletcher, on 23 May 2019 - 05:46 AM, said:

iirc you cant refund your preorder if you redeemed any of the codes.

might be true.
it's not about the money though, it's about the message.

[Bullroarer4]

Pgi is a business. Businesses respond to money not players. Stop buying mech packs and mc. THEN they might listen.

[BARRY SHlTPEAS]

Well this Faction Play update went straight down the toilet.

Didn't even touch the sides.

Edited by -Verti-, 23 May 2019 - 05:53 AM.

[NullaNulla]

Who ever decided it would be a good idea to get rid of the lobby & call to arms is a deadset moron, 2hrs in cue for 0 cbills/LP

[Grus]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, on 23 May 2019 - 05:40 AM, said:

sound strategy.
let it all burn down. once the ashes are cold, they throw us a bone and we're happy again..

..only that we won't be.

it's thursday afternoon here. monday same time I cancel my mw5 preorder. I can't, for my life, remember any other company that wanted to lose loyal, paying customers as badly as they seem to.


*fun fact: fw-queue right now is 0:1, sometimes 0:2.
good job PGI, pls continue your excellent work.

I'd check it again at peak time (about 10 hrs from now.)

[Racerxintegra2k]

All I've needed is better Loyalty rewards system to have a more attractive reason to bring unit to faction play ... PGI .... no more loyalty ! Your welcome Enjoy !

[Warning incoming Humble Dexterer]

There should be an incentive to join one of the two warring factions, instead of an obligation.

Such as the "slight boost" in C-bills, XP or loyalty points only applying to members of the two story related Factions. But members from the other Factions can join in too (without the benefit of that slight boost).

Also :
- Mercenaries should get their Mercenary points back.
- Mercenaries should be getting a slight boost in "Mercenary points", instead of a slight boost in C-bills.
- Freelancers "focus completely on earning revenue", so they should be the ones getting a slight boost in C-bills, but maybe keep the slight boost in XP too.

You can worry about changing who can switch side and when, depending on who they are, after you've put the missing players back into FP. Example :
- Loyalist can only change side between conflicts.
- Mercenaries can only change side between phases of a conflict.
- Freelancers can change side whenever they want to.

[Natural Predator]

I have played with and against about every FW player that is worth a salt in this game. So I am going to weigh in my 2 cents.
1. The ability to self regulate population is key to faction warfare fundamentally working. We have to able to side switch in order to keep balance in this game mode.
2. Loyalist must be allowed to remain loyalist and it would be wise to offer incentive to remain loyalist. That can be accomplished through LP and or loyalist only (and I mean any loyalist faction) extra event rewards.
3. Event drive narratives could be as simple as how you accomplished the tuk events. Maybe have a leaderboard for top 10 players by weight class or by mode. For example X players had highest damage in skirmish. Or x players did the most capping on conquest. Just examples can be tweaked. Either way, the idea is to create a goal or payoff to participate in these events beyond lore.
4. Reward people for joining teams and make being part of the same unit beneficial. The best way to enjoy mwo FP is with other teammates.
5. Remove incursion from FP all together, it’s simply not needed in wave based combat.
6. Rework Boreal Vault so it’s easier for an attacking team to at least get the gates open.
7. Keep the matchmaker system so at the very least it tries to group vs group as much as possible.


There’s a very simple old saying “keep it Kiss”.

[Grus]

This patch makes as much sense as putting salt and pepper on a glazed donut....

[Firearrow]

If for some reason they can’t roll the change back, what if they set the events up as one day events only and rolled though the factions?
So, we have 10 faction (not including Smoke Adder, Nova Cat and Diamond Shark since they don't have a presence on the map) so end the Wolf v Rasalhague fight today. Once that’s done roll through all the faction’s day by day.

Set the Map to 3050
Friday: Falcon – Steiner fight on Barcelona
Saturday: Smoke Jag - Kurita on Turtle Bay
Sunday: Ghost Bear – Rasalhague on Constance
Monday: Davion – Liao on St Ives
Tuesday: Marik – Davion on Wazan
Wednesday: Wolf – Rasalhague – New Caledonia

Set the modes up by hours. During the lower population hours set it to scouting. During the medium population hours set it to Assault or Conquest etc. and the prime time hours set it to Siege.

Obviously not ideal but at least that way the Loyalist are getting a fight every 6 days while they’re coming up with a way to fix this if its not easy to roll the changes back out.

[GoodTry]

I only play QP, but every once in a while when there is a big change I check in on FP again, and it's always a dumpster fire.

This just reinforces my theory that whoever was really good at game design at PGI did the initial quickplay structure, with everything set up for good, quick, fun matches on reasonably-sized (for 8v8) maps. Click one button -> play a quick match -> repeat. Great moment-to-moment gameplay, easy to learn hard to master, simple and fun.

Then whoever that was left the company, and since then the remaining folks have been trying really hard but only making things worse. It seems like every iteration of CW/FP has been a UI and/or gameplay disaster.

[Fuerchtenichts]

I would like to know how the new FP Systems works in regards to loyalist LP maluses. Up till now you received -LP for fighting against other factions. Is this still the case? So was the Paul Inouye solution to give the loayalists new goals in game just to reduce the amount of FP games where you can get relevant LP for your desired Faction while you should better not take part in other events as you might loose historic LP in other factions you would probably play later?

So the plan was to further slow down loyalists faction progress overall to get more players motivated to play?

[Samuli Salonen]

Fuerchtenichts, on 23 May 2019 - 08:14 AM, said:

I would like to know how the new FP Systems works in regards to loyalist LP maluses. Up till now you received -LP for fighting against other factions. Is this still the case? So was the Paul Inouye solution to give the loayalists new goals in game just to reduce the amount of FP games where you can get relevant LP for your desired Faction while you should better not take part in other events as you might loose historic LP in other factions you would probably play later?

So the plan was to further slow down loyalists faction progress overall to get more players motivated to play?

If you think that's bad, Mercs can't advance through the Merc ranks PERIOD now. Merc LP is zero per match.

[Fuerchtenichts]

Samuli Salonen, on 23 May 2019 - 08:22 AM, said:

If you think that's bad, Mercs can't advance through the Merc ranks PERIOD now. Merc LP is zero per match.

This was already pointed out indirectly in the patch notes:

End-of-match rewards:

• Freelancers receive a 5% XP boost for every match they play.
  
• Mercenaries receive a 5% C-Bill boost for every match they play.
  
• Loyalists continue earning Loyalty Points (LP) for loyalist titles and rewards. (Note: Additional functionality will be added towards Loyalty Points in a future patch)

Edited by Fuerchtenichts, 23 May 2019 - 08:40 AM.