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[Dimento Graven]

BlaizerP, on 08 October 2019 - 07:47 AM, said:

I, too, enjoy playing badly for fun.

Yep, everyone does every once in a while.

Hell, I was running around in a gauss spider last night...

[Mystere]

Dimento Graven, on 08 October 2019 - 06:53 AM, said:

Computer guided ANYTHING in a PvP game is dumb ...

Yes, Gaijin is so dumb they make a whole boatload of money more than PGI for their dumbness.

And, oh:

Mystere, on 07 October 2019 - 06:04 PM, said:

I guess DCS is trash then, right?

Edited by Mystere, 08 October 2019 - 03:49 PM.

[Johny Rocket]

LRMS were dead the minute IS MRMs dropped.

[Vellron2005]

I think I've said just about everything I think about LRMs over the years.

At this point, I rarely play the game anymore, so I don't really care much.

The game is still only fun if it's pugs vs pugs, and I feel like it truly is slowly dying.

I estimate it's time of death will be December 10th, 2019. (god willing they don't extend the MW5 release date).

[Spheroid]

Johny Rocket, on 08 October 2019 - 06:10 PM, said:

LRMS were dead the minute IS MRMs dropped.

False

[Nightbird]

Outside of Tiers 5, 4, maybe 3, LRMs are bad

[Johny Rocket]

Nightbird, on 09 October 2019 - 08:28 AM, said:

Outside of Tiers 5, 4, maybe 3, LRMs are bad

Really just depends on how you do it. I can make them work still but it's just not worth it when I can boat 4 MRM10's on the same medium I would run 5x LRM5's and have a lot more advantage if I have to fight close in.

[Vellron2005]

Nightbird, on 09 October 2019 - 08:28 AM, said:

Outside of Tiers 5, 4, maybe 3, LRMs are bad

Wait, we have skill tiers?

I didn't notice..

[FRAGTAST1C]

Vellron2005, on 10 October 2019 - 12:39 AM, said:

Wait, we have skill tiers?

I didn't notice..

Well... it's like this. At lower tiers, LRM mechs don't have any other hard hitting weapons and the players think raining missiles down on enemies and watching the crosshair turn red somehow equates to ALL of the missiles hitting the target. They don't realize that they're missing out on the damage 'cause they're fully dependant on indirect fire. At higher tiers, you need to use LRMs with other weapons and equipment to be effective and make sure that your damage isn't being wasted by letting most of your missiles hit static objects. This effect gets compounded when you take a look at the damage scores at the end. You might do 700+ damage with LRMs but you could've done more if you made sure all your LRMs fell on the target and added to that damage with, say, an UAC 10 on a LRM 80 Highlander IIC B while sharing armour, leading the initial push and providing fire support to your skirmishers.

[Willard Phule]

Nightbird, on 09 October 2019 - 08:28 AM, said:

Outside of Tiers 5, 4, maybe 3, LRMs are bad

There are no tiers. There is no matchmaker. Everyone drops with T5s now.

[Vellron2005]

FRAGTAST1C, on 10 October 2019 - 01:46 AM, said:

Well... it's like this. At lower tiers, LRM mechs don't have any other hard hitting weapons and the players think raining missiles down on enemies and watching the crosshair turn red somehow equates to ALL of the missiles hitting the target. They don't realize that they're missing out on the damage 'cause they're fully dependant on indirect fire. At higher tiers, you need to use LRMs with other weapons and equipment to be effective and make sure that your damage isn't being wasted by letting most of your missiles hit static objects. This effect gets compounded when you take a look at the damage scores at the end. You might do 700+ damage with LRMs but you could've done more if you made sure all your LRMs fell on the target and added to that damage with, say, an UAC 10 on a LRM 80 Highlander IIC B while sharing armour, leading the initial push and providing fire support to your skirmishers.

Yeah.. I'm not gonna get dragged into just how wrong this is.. so yeah, sure.. whatever..

[Prototelis]

If you're going to go lrms you go all lrms.

Stop bringing them if you don't know how to play them.

[Dimento Graven]

Actually heard from a friend who is supposedly good friends with someone at PGI, it seems that PGI is at some point going to remove computer guided weaponry.

Something about all 'serious' eSports avoid computer guided damage, and some drunken hope that eSports could still happen for MWO...

Sounded far fetched, but it makes me happy thinking about it.

[JediPanther]

Prototelis, on 11 October 2019 - 05:54 AM, said:

If you're going to go lrms you go all lrms.

Stop bringing them if you don't know how to play them.

My cptl-A1 laughs at the idea of any other weapon but lrms. Nuke or nothin'

[Dimento Graven]

JediPanther, on 12 October 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

My cptl-A1 laughs at the idea of any other weapon but lrms. Nuke or nothin'

I dunno... Pop some MRMs in it and then you're no longer reliant on borrowed skill and are definitely more brawley...

[JediPanther]

Dimento Graven, on 11 October 2019 - 11:53 PM, said:

Actually heard from a friend who is supposedly good friends with someone at PGI, it seems that PGI is at some point going to remove computer guided weaponry.

Something about all 'serious' eSports avoid computer guided damage, and some drunken hope that eSports could still happen for MWO...

Sounded far fetched, but it makes me happy thinking about it.

I find that very hard to believe. Even for pgi's lack of competence they wouldn't remove one of the three weapons the core game was made on. Seeing how all missiles would be removed you'd also have to re-do nearly every stock mech in the game that has lrms/srms/mrms etc stock.

Now if they were going to remove ballistics because paul got butthurt over being one-shot from dual ac20s from a kgc or dhgrs from a winfrnr in a privet match I could believe that.

Pgi simply can't remove one-third of the game's code to remove one weapon system because so many other weapons depend on it to work.

[Mystere]

Prototelis, on 11 October 2019 - 05:54 AM, said:

If you're going to go lrms you go all lrms.

Stop bringing them if you don't know how to play them.

How are people supposed to learn if they don't even try? Not everyone is born an expert.

Dimento Graven, on 11 October 2019 - 11:53 PM, said:

Actually heard from a friend who is supposedly good friends with someone at PGI, it seems that PGI is at some point going to remove computer guided weaponry.

Something about all 'serious' eSports avoid computer guided damage, and some drunken hope that eSports could still happen for MWO...

Sounded far fetched, but it makes me happy thinking about it.

Far fetched and absolutely ridiculous, that's what that is. How are LRMs and Streaks supposed to be used, via dumb firing? Or are they going to be removed from the game?

That would be really really² really³ dumb either way.

JediPanther, on 12 October 2019 - 01:04 PM, said:

I find that very hard to believe.

Someone somewhere is talking out of his backside, plain and simple.

Edited by Mystere, 12 October 2019 - 04:28 PM.

[Wildstreak]

After playing Titanfall 2, I have now seen how LRMs should have worked.

[The pessimistic optimist]

JediPanther, on 12 October 2019 - 01:04 PM, said:

I find that very hard to believe. Even for pgi's lack of competence they wouldn't remove one of the three weapons the core game was made on. Seeing how all missiles would be removed you'd also have to re-do nearly every stock mech in the game that has lrms/srms/mrms etc stock.

Now if they were going to remove ballistics because paul got butthurt over being one-shot from dual ac20s from a kgc or dhgrs from a winfrnr in a privet match I could believe that.

Pgi simply can't remove one-third of the game's code to remove one weapon system because so many other weapons depend on it to work.

People's insane dreams of grandeur and everything should be based on there direct whim's. There loads of games they can go play that don't have LRMs or ATMs.

Edited by SirSmokes, 14 October 2019 - 09:20 AM.

[Nightbird]

LRMs are bad, don't forget to hit R again to unlock your target