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[Dee Eight]

that baradul's video about mechwarrior 5 beta 3 days ago has apparently gone viral and has jumped to 178,000 plus views from the 22,000 it was at only about 36 hours ago. That's MORE than just the player base from here watching it. It'll be interesting to see if there's any increase in MWO's player pool over the next month spilling off from the apparent interested in MW5. We did finish november up about 600 players compared to the end of october.

Edited by Dee Eight, 01 December 2019 - 08:09 AM.

[Nesutizale]

What? Do you actualy mean that people in the industry that have way more data then we do might be right with their assumption that MW5 is not only the 10% of forum users and that going Epic wasn't that bad of an idea?

Herrasy, quickly kill it with fire.

[Quandoo]

if they keep up releasing instant combat maps for quick play, both games are not going anywhere.
there is solaris for that.

battletech is pretty complex and they dumbed it down big time.

Edited by Quandoo, 01 December 2019 - 09:51 AM.

[JediPanther]

Anyone coming from mw5 only to mwo is going to be very disappointed with high expectations from mw5 being crushed my mwo's "special features" and lack of can-play-with-friends.

[Dee Eight]

JediPanther, on 01 December 2019 - 12:04 PM, said:

Anyone coming from mw5 only to mwo is going to be very disappointed with high expectations from mw5 being crushed my mwo's "special features" and lack of can-play-with-friends.

Well.... premium members can use the private lobby to play with friends all they like. And if they're all actually new players they can just try sync dropping same as everyone else does already.

[Trystan Thorne]

I know quite a few oldtimer BattleTech/MechWarrior fans that are quite old fashioned when it comes to gaming and PvP just isn't their cup of tea.
So it might be more of them lurking around and waiting for that single player fix they have been craving for so long. :-)

I really hope MW5 will succeed (I want the game to be expanded upon), and it will be intersting to see if it will raise the MWO population.

[Quandoo]

It's Epic store exclusive, doubt there will be many players.
They will receive good money from Epic but it's bad for the playerbase of both games.

Sold their soul for fast money. You can see Ubisoft and EA releasing for Steam again after they failed their own shop adventure.

Edited by Quandoo, 01 December 2019 - 01:55 PM.

[Nesutizale]

Dee Eight, on 01 December 2019 - 01:03 PM, said:

Well.... premium members can use the private lobby to play with friends all they like. And if they're all actually new players they can just try sync dropping same as everyone else does already.

Isn't the Lobby free for all? IIRC they changed it from Premium only to free some time ago.

Quandoo, on 01 December 2019 - 01:53 PM, said:

It's Epic store exclusive, doubt there will be many players.
They will receive good money from Epic but it's bad for the playerbase of both games.

Sold their soul for fast money. You can see Ubisoft and EA releasing for Steam again after they failed their own shop adventure.

I think you overastimate the 1% angry crowd of forum warriors. Its might not be a top seller but from browsing other gameing websites I have the impression that there are a lot of people eyeing the title because PvP/MWO wasn't their type of game.

Also the past has show that with all the "I will never download Epic stuff" it very quickly turns into "Except that and that Oh and that one is also nice".

[Appogee]

I remember when Steam was new and it was being boycotted by angry horders of gamers and devs who were convinced it would destroy the games industry.

IMHO Steam is close to a monopoly in terms of the size of marketshare it commands, and the 30% fee it charges to distribute games is extortionate relative to its costs. So some competition (eg. yes, including Epic) will actually be good for developers and gamers.

[Trystan Thorne]

Quandoo, on 01 December 2019 - 01:53 PM, said:

It's Epic store exclusive, doubt there will be many players.
They will receive good money from Epic but it's bad for the playerbase of both games.

Sold their soul for fast money. You can see Ubisoft and EA releasing for Steam again after they failed their own shop adventure.

While I would have prefered MW5 to be sold on more stores (especially GOG), I don't think that Epic exlusitivity will hurt MW5 (pretty sure the money they got helped them improve the game actually).
It hasn't hurt any other game released on EGS really (even if people keep claiming that).
Games like Metro and Borderlands sold extremly well. It just shows that the majority really doesn't care.
If MW5 fails, it will have nothing to do it been on EGS exclusively.

While I'm not the biggest fan of EGS (it sure has it's flaws), I'm happy they are around.
Finally Steam is improving their client. I'm still more the GOG person myself.

As for MW5, I'm happy to see it been talked a bit more on the internet over the last few days.
Fingers crossed it will sell well.

[LordNothing]

there are a lot of mechwarrior fans who weren't really willing to put up with all the baggage that came with mwo. they may have played a few games and left in disgust. they may have not wanted to play an f2p game or simply wanted single player. so mw5 can tap markets mwo could have never got into.

[Dee Eight]

Well... baradul's video has jumped another 34k views since I last looked 12 hours ago. Also according to the jarl's data, besides the total player count jumping 600 or so from October, the new players figure jumped from about 1k to 1.4k. That could be a fluke given the general downwards trend the past year, but if if you consider all those fortnite players are PvP people, any that enjoy MW5 might want to do it PvP also.

Now, there's obviously differences in the game mechanics as MW5 has no ghost heat, nor gauss charge time, and there's always the very slim chance that if enough players come over to here and start buying mech packs, and then demanding the elimination of the ghost heat and un-nerf the hover jets because they'll be folks they haven't taken money from yet who they only have to do that for to satisfy.

[FRAGTAST1C]

Quandoo, on 01 December 2019 - 01:53 PM, said:

It's Epic store exclusive, doubt there will be many players.
They will receive good money from Epic but it's bad for the playerbase of both games.

Sold their soul for fast money. You can see Ubisoft and EA releasing for Steam again after they failed their own shop adventure.

Or it's safety first and getting enough money upfront to keep the company afloat, especially when their current game, MWO, isn't bringing in the profits anymore.

I swear, some people.....

[Anjian]

Dee Eight, on 01 December 2019 - 08:01 AM, said:

that baradul's video about mechwarrior 5 beta 3 days ago has apparently gone viral and has jumped to 178,000 plus views from the 22,000 it was at only about 36 hours ago. That's MORE than just the player base from here watching it. It'll be interesting to see if there's any increase in MWO's player pool over the next month spilling off from the apparent interested in MW5. We did finish november up about 600 players compared to the end of october.

I would take it as a promising sign, yes.

[justcallme A S H]

Dee Eight, on 01 December 2019 - 01:03 PM, said:

Well.... premium members can use the private lobby to play with friends all they like. And if they're all actually new players they can just try sync dropping same as everyone else does already.

Are you ever doing anything other than posting absolute garbage?



Premium Time for Private Lobbies was removed years ago.

[Warning incoming Humble Dexterer]

Dee Eight, on 01 December 2019 - 08:01 AM, said:

It'll be interesting to see if there's any increase in MWO's player pool over the next month spilling off from the apparent interested in MW5. We did finish november up about 600 players compared to the end of october.

Unfortunately, right when PGI should be on their toes preparing for an influx of cooperative MW5 players into PvP MWO, doing some heavy monitoring and fixing critical unfriendly flaws such as getting (small) groups into QP, and getting (big) groups out of FP, as well as launching new player friendly events...

Is when PGI announced they did such a good job launching MW5 they're going to take a well deserved break till next year, leaving any unlucky MW5 player to plunge into (and right out of) the MWO chaos by himself.

Many Wasted Opportunities.

[Dee Eight]

The developers probably do kind of need a vacation. Pretty much every developer studio goes crazy hours in the final few weeks before a game launch. I think the best we can hope for between the 11th and the new year for MWO is minimal effort code changes and eliminating the gauss charge on light and regular gauss would be something like that which could be easily accomplished.

[PhoenixFire55]

Appogee, on 01 December 2019 - 02:30 PM, said:

I remember when Steam was new and it was being boycotted by angry horders of gamers and devs who were convinced it would destroy the games industry.

Steam didn't steal games from other vendors and made them exclusive.

Appogee, on 01 December 2019 - 02:30 PM, said:

IMHO Steam is close to a monopoly in terms of the size of marketshare it commands, and the 30% fee it charges to distribute games is extortionate relative to its costs. So some competition (eg. yes, including Epic) will actually be good for developers and gamers.

Nobody would argue against actual competition. When you sell the same product other guy does and win over customers by better services, lower prices and so on, thats competition. When you literally steal product from other vendors and make it exclusive to your shop, thats anything but competition.

[Unleashed3k]

PhoenixFire55, on 02 December 2019 - 04:03 AM, said:

Steam didn't steal games from other vendors and made them exclusive.


Nobody would argue against actual competition. When you sell the same product other guy does and win over customers by better services, lower prices and so on, thats competition. When you literally steal product from other vendors and make it exclusive to your shop, thats anything but competition.

Back then, there was nearly NOTHING, but yes, something is attacking the great murrican Steam, omgud, let's talk BS about it, so it may go away…

It's about time, that Steam dies...!

What is this new Shoplayout? An Epic-clone? LoL

[Ilfi]

I would not read too much into YouTube views. What you need to track are Week 1, Month 1, Season 1 sales and developer support. Sweeney Bux and pre-orders have only done so much.