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[OmniFail]

Prototelis, on 05 March 2020 - 02:39 PM, said:

You didn't have to, big engine stomp meta and murder balling are the genesis of the dual rotation event called Nascar.

Your not really detracting from my statement.

It is still better to call targets and focus fire than it is to enjoy some weird armor fantasy.
Killing mechs triggers win conditions, sharing, pooling, and spreading do not trigger win conditions.

[Prototelis]

Health pooling isn't a fantasy. Moving as a group is a form of health pooling.

We've already had this discussion, in which you were proven wrong.

Health pooling directly contributes to fight attrition and disabling or killing mechs, which triggers the win condition.

[OmniFail]

Prototelis, on 05 March 2020 - 02:55 PM, said:

Health pooling directly contributes to fight attrition and disabling or killing mechs, which triggers the win condition.

Nope...It does not.
When you are exposed and the enemy team calls your letter and focuses fire on your mech, the rest of your team can believe in health pooling, cabbages, and magical sky gods all they want and it still will not save you.

[VonBruinwald]

Prototelis, on 05 March 2020 - 02:55 PM, said:

Health pooling isn't a fantasy. Moving as a group is a form of health pooling.

That's armour sharing. Health pooling is what you call it.

Prototelis, on 05 March 2020 - 02:55 PM, said:

Health pooling directly contributes to fight attrition and disabling or killing mechs, which triggers the win condition.

No it doesn't. It directly contributes to the survival of your own group. It has no direct effect on the enemy.

It's possible for an entire team to "pool health" without firing a single shot.

Or to put it another way, when you're stripped of weapons you can still "pool health". You can't focus fire without weapons.

[thievingmagpi]

OmniFail, on 05 March 2020 - 03:04 PM, said:

Nope...It does not.
When you are exposed and the enemy team calls your letter and focuses fire on your mech, the rest of your team can believe in health pooling, cabbages, and magical sky gods all they want and it still will not save you.

cool, no one was talking about overexposing and getting farmed like a dipshit.

Edited by thievingmagpi, 05 March 2020 - 05:09 PM.

[OmniFail]

thievingmagpi, on 05 March 2020 - 05:09 PM, said:

cool, no one was talking about overexposing and getting farmed like a dipshit.

I did not say "overexposed." I said "exposed"

It does not matter if you are standing in the middle of your team. If the enemy team calls you as a target and at lest a few members can focus fire on you, you are toast. You can make believe that a team member standing next to you will magically draw fire or lend you armor all you want.

It will not matter against focused fire from a competent team.

Edited by OmniFail, 05 March 2020 - 05:23 PM.

[thievingmagpi]

OmniFail, on 05 March 2020 - 05:21 PM, said:

I did not say "overexposed." I said "exposed"

It does not matter if you are standing in the middle of your team. If the enemy team calls you as a target and at lest a few members can focus fire on you, you are toast. You can make believe that a team member standing next to you will magically draw fire or lend you armor all you want.

It will not matter against focused fire from a competent team.

just gonna stand here in the open and let multiple ppl shoot me. brb

[OmniFail]

thievingmagpi, on 05 March 2020 - 05:26 PM, said:

just gonna stand here in the open and let multiple ppl shoot me. brb

From what I understand of the armor sharing argument, if you do not, you are not presenting yourself as a target and you are using your team as a meat shield.

Apparently if you are not presenting yourself as a target then you cannot draw fire.

[Jack Booted Thug]

For quick play your build is just fine.

Quick Play is a sewer.

Everything is fine in a sewer.

Left turns only.

[MTier Slayed Up]

Good ******* God, how long has this game been out? Y'all talk about deathballing as if it's some new method going through a trial and error phase. It isn't a new concept.

I guess in FP it's somewhat different on a siege map but every other game mode plays relatively the same way to QP other than having 4 tries and a longer time limit.

This isn't rocket science.

[K O Z A K]

DrtyDshSoap, on 05 March 2020 - 06:10 PM, said:

Good ******* God, how long has this game been out? Y'all talk about deathballing as if it's some new method going through a trial and error phase. It isn't a new concept.

apparently a lot of people are still having trouble

DrtyDshSoap, on 05 March 2020 - 06:10 PM, said:

I guess in FP it's somewhat different on a siege map but every other game mode plays relatively the same way to QP other than having 4 tries and a longer time limit.

you'd expect it to right? but for some reason it doesn't, on average it seems FP draws players with a more team oriented mindset

[FRAGTAST1C]

Have you guys realized that the OP has quietly left the place?

Just can't wait to argue amongst yourselves, can you?

[K O Z A K]

FRAGTAST1C, on 05 March 2020 - 07:14 PM, said:

Have you guys realized that the OP has quietly left the place?

Just can't wait to argue amongst yourselves, can you?

[MTier Slayed Up]

Hazeclaw, on 05 March 2020 - 06:43 PM, said:

you'd expect it to right? but for some reason it doesn't, on average it seems FP draws players with a more team oriented mindset

I know it does if it's randoms vs randoms.

An actual 12 man, even if everyone is just average, will just dominate. It's pretty much group que.

[Prototelis]

VonBruinwald, on 05 March 2020 - 03:06 PM, said:

No it doesn't. It directly contributes to the survival of your own group. It has no direct effect on the enemy.

Yes, health pooling contributes directly to fighting attrition. Dead mechs can't shoot.

The rest of your statement basically agrees with mine. lol

Omnifail lizard brain wrong anyways. Dude has two has modes; NSR a single person that hurt his feelings on the internet no matter what is going and hiding.

[OmniFail]

Prototelis, on 05 March 2020 - 08:53 PM, said:

Omnifail lizard brain wrong anyways. Dude has two has modes; NSR a single person that hurt his feelings on the internet no matter what is going and hiding.

Can't attack the mans logic, so he attacks the man.

Anyway, learn to grammer.

[Extra Guac]

At least run 3ERLL, have some self respect.

In terms of the armor sharing topic, it's not cut & dry imo. Heavily damaged mechs should learn to cycle to the back line before they die, & continue getting shots off without taking return fire. You can't expect your team's ranged mechs to proactively move up to the front lines unless you have some real Shane Battier unselfish players on your side.

[Prototelis]

OmniFail, on 05 March 2020 - 09:14 PM, said:

Anyway, learn to grammer.

*grammar

[MTier Slayed Up]

Prototelis, on 05 March 2020 - 09:25 PM, said:

*grammar

[VonBruinwald]

Prototelis, on 05 March 2020 - 02:55 PM, said:

Armour sharing directly contributes to fight attrition and disabling or killing mechs

Prototelis, on 05 March 2020 - 08:53 PM, said:

Armour sharing contributes directly to fighting attrition.

Nice rollback. You keep redefining those terms.