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[The pessimistic optimist]

Clayman126, on 30 January 2021 - 11:35 PM, said:

I have one's that works really well but the builds that work are very limited. I run one with ECM 4xheavy meds and narc and it's a GREAT support back stabber

Edited by SirSmokes, 31 January 2021 - 01:11 AM.

[martian]

Samial, on 30 January 2021 - 09:37 PM, said:

Nahh Dervish is bad at brawling its body parts goes in seconds.. even spreading damage.
Zeus isn't that bad.. better brawler than a Dervish.

Are you sure that you are using the Dervish correctly?

It used to be one of my most favorite 'Mechs.


It can carry you to the victory with the highest Match Score ...




It can give you the green arrow even in defeat, even if the enemy team fields 8 Assault-class 'Mechs ...




Just yesterday I pulled it out of the hangar and this old girl still rocks ...

Comfortably the highest Match Score of all 24 players.

[The pessimistic optimist]

martian, on 31 January 2021 - 03:29 AM, said:

Are you sure that you are using the Dervish correctly?

It used to be one of my most favorite 'Mechs.


It can carry you to the victory with the highest Match Score ...




It can give you the green arrow even in defeat, even if the enemy team fields 8 Assault-class 'Mechs ...




Just yesterday I pulled it out of the hangar and this old girl still rocks ...

Comfortably the highest Match Score of all 24 players.

I have the hero dervish splat SRM4 build that dose work

[Swamp Ass MkII]

Black Lanner due to hit boxes and limited weight availability for weapons.
Timberwolf only due to hit boxes.
Cougar, hit boxes and slow for weight class.

[martian]

CTF-4X Cataphract

Years ago it used to be a real powerhouse.

Now it is a forgotten 'Mech and I can not remember when it was the last time that I saw one in the game. I know, the low engine cap, low-slung arms, etc.

But it is still sad reminder of the bygone era.

[Y E O N N E]

Locust 3V

It can't even meme.

[PocketYoda]

LordNothing, on 31 January 2021 - 12:46 AM, said:

for a mech that doesnt have stealth, it sure as hell doesnt draw fire. i guess people aren't threatened by a beer cooler. also with so many clan omnis being slow af, its nice to have one that is actually fast, even though it fills the same role as the cicada.

It looks like a Fridge.. people feel bad for the owner.

[RickySpanish]

Samial, on 28 January 2021 - 07:29 PM, said:

For me personally its the Dervish and Hellspawns..

Dervish look like a great mech on paper but in actual they suck.. the tonnage wont allow good setups, you need faster speeds but then very little weapons etc.. the arms and shoulders go in seconds and so does most of its weapons.

Hellspawns have been crap since they arrived..

Uziels also are a runner up but i have seen a few players making them somewhat work these days..


I'd rather a Spider or a Lanner over those three.



I like my Jenners i find its a very solid all rounder light mech.. The Jenner IIC is poorer though.

SRM 4 Frenzy has the best burst damage of any missile medium in the game. The laser variant can stick 6 medium pulse lasers on with rocket launchers in the torsos for a 20% armour buff. The Dervish is very, very far from the worst 'Mech/chassis in MWO. I realise you said for "me personally" but I beg you to try that chassis again!

The Pretty Baby on the other hand...

Edited by RickySpanish, 31 January 2021 - 09:47 PM.

[LordNothing]

Samial, on 31 January 2021 - 09:28 PM, said:

It looks like a Fridge.. people feel bad for the owner.

i mean i wiped the dust off of one of them a few weeks ago and got 5 kills. they also are near the top of the spread sheets. i feel that they are just very underrated.

[The pessimistic optimist]

RickySpanish, on 31 January 2021 - 09:45 PM, said:

SRM 4 Frenzy has the best burst damage of any missile medium in the game. The laser variant can stick 6 medium pulse lasers on with rocket launchers in the torsos for a 20% armour buff. The Dervish is very, very far from the worst 'Mech/chassis in MWO. I realise you said for "me personally" but I beg you to try that chassis again!

The Pretty Baby on the other hand...

Pukey Baby is the worst I have called it that since it came it IT BLOWS

LordNothing, on 31 January 2021 - 09:59 PM, said:

i mean i wiped the dust off of one of them a few weeks ago and got 5 kills. they also are near the top of the spread sheets. i feel that they are just very underrated.

It has profile of a light and speed of a light and armor of medium. Problem is speed comes at cost of not having tonnage for weapons Heavy meds are the refrigerator friend

[martian]

RickySpanish, on 31 January 2021 - 09:45 PM, said:

The Pretty Baby on the other hand...

The Pretty Baby was such disappointment for me when it arrived.

I mean, the Awesome was supposed to be one of the premiere Inner Sphere Assault 'Mechs - but it was Meh! 'Mech.

And the PB was the Hero model ... except that it was probably the worst of all already mediocre Awesomes in MWO.

The only positive thing on the PB is its cool livery.

[The pessimistic optimist]

martian, on 31 January 2021 - 10:23 PM, said:

The Pretty Baby was such disappointment for me when it arrived.

I mean, the Awesome was supposed to be one of the premiere Inner Sphere Assault 'Mechs - but it was Meh! 'Mech.

And the PB was the Hero model ... except that it was probably the worst of all already mediocre Awesomes in MWO.

The only positive thing on the PB is its cool livery.

The hard points are just UHHHGGGGG. The most effective Awesome's right now are the LRM boat ones were it massive barn door size is not as much of a problem

Edited by SirSmokes, 31 January 2021 - 10:30 PM.

[FupDup]

SirSmokes, on 31 January 2021 - 10:26 PM, said:

The hard points are just UHHHGGGGG. The most effective Awesome's right now are the LRM boat ones were it massive barn door size is not as much of a problem

The 8Q can be nasty with its PPC +HSL quirk, but otherwise yeah the mech ain't in a good spot.

[The pessimistic optimist]

FupDup, on 01 February 2021 - 02:57 AM, said:

The 8Q can be nasty with its PPC +HSL quirk, but otherwise yeah the mech ain't in a good spot.

Those one's are also great

Edited by SirSmokes, 01 February 2021 - 05:27 AM.

[Valdarion Silarius]

FupDup, on 01 February 2021 - 02:57 AM, said:

The 8Q can be nasty with its PPC +HSL quirk, but otherwise yeah the mech ain't in a good spot.

The Awesome 8Q is far from bad. It could use a little bit of hitbox adjustments since the mech is as wide as a barn, but other than that it's got way better mobility and acceleration that most of my other assault mechs when fully skilled. The PPC quirks along with the Warhawk make this thing a monster.


To answer OP's question, I can't vouch for what is the worst mech in MW:O but my vote would be both the Nova Cat and the Night Gyr. The Nova Cat suffers from ridiculously low arm syndrome, the prime is absolute trash (since cERLL have been nerfed into the ground and need some serious help), it's got horrible hitboxes and the only viable thing you can run are missiles which is IMO boring.

The Night Gyr used to be a really good pop tart mech until PGI beat it to death with the nerf stick. It suffers from very low pod space, low arm mounts (though not as bad as the Nova Cat and it does have some good hardpoints), and is pretty fragile. It does have decent jump jet capabilities which does address some of the issues above, but I'd like to see the mech reworked.

Other contenders are the Executioner, Nightstar, Timberwolf, Banshee, and a few others I can't think of off the top of my head. If I had to choose one that would need the most help first, then my vote goes to the Nova Cat. It's one of the very few mechs after I fully skilled and really tried hard to enjoy, I was forced to sell off because it's in such an abysmal state.

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 01 February 2021 - 08:21 AM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Arnold The Governator, on 01 February 2021 - 08:20 AM, said:

The Awesome 8Q is far from bad. It could use a little bit of hitbox adjustments since the mech is as wide as a barn, but other than that it's got way better mobility and acceleration that most of my other assault mechs when fully skilled. The PPC quirks along with the Warhawk make this thing a monster.


To answer OP's question, I can't vouch for what is the worst mech in MW:O but my vote would be both the Nova Cat and the Night Gyr. The Nova Cat suffers from ridiculously low arm syndrome, the prime is absolute trash (since cERLL have been nerfed into the ground and need some serious help), it's got horrible hitboxes and the only viable thing you can run are missiles which is IMO boring.

The Night Gyr used to be a really good pop tart mech until PGI beat it to death with the nerf stick. It suffers from very low pod space, low arm mounts (though not as bad as the Nova Cat and it does have some good hardpoints), and is pretty fragile. It does have decent jump jet capabilities which does address some of the issues above, but I'd like to see the mech reworked.

Other contenders are the Executioner, Nightstar, Timberwolf, Banshee, and a few others I can't think of off the top of my head. If I had to choose one that would need the most help first, then my vote goes to the Nova Cat. It's one of the very few mechs after I fully skilled and really tried hard to enjoy, I was forced to sell off because it's in such an abysmal state.

Unless it's LRM 90 Nova Cat that is a beast. Those type of mechs with hit box and shape problems when running LRMs that becomes less of a problem

Edited by SirSmokes, 01 February 2021 - 08:27 AM.

[Wolfos31]

Nova Cat is pretty much a missile boat IMO. But it can play that role pretty well using either LRMs or ATMs. It doesn't have the hitboxes or speed to run SRMs IMO.

I haven't tried out the Night Gyr but I see it rarely. Banshee I agree is a trash mech, Nightstar suffers from the wide arms and poor peeking profile. Timber Wolf is bad but still servicable. I do okay in mine on a regular basis. Executioner is a niche build but can run really great short range laser brawl builds.

I hadn't forgotten about the Ice Ferret. It used to be a meta for FP scouting missions. Speed to stay away from the enemy and long range lasers to pick them apart.

[Valdarion Silarius]

SirSmokes, on 01 February 2021 - 08:24 AM, said:

Unless it's LRM 90 Nova Cat that is a beast. Those type of mechs with hit box and shape problems when running LRMs that becomes less of a problem

That is the thing through, it's only good at missile spam. Ironically if I want to run missile spam I'd rather field a Warhammer IIC 2, and my Rifleman IIC 4 and Chironex have my LRM/ATM spam covered with better hardpoints. When I think of Nova Cats I would want something a little less ammo dependent and a little more energy efficient. Tried running ERLL vomit which is garbage and tried mixtures of ballistic/energy and ran into the same problems.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Wolfos31, on 01 February 2021 - 08:36 AM, said:

Nova Cat is pretty much a missile boat IMO. But it can play that role pretty well using either LRMs or ATMs. It doesn't have the hitboxes or speed to run SRMs IMO.

I haven't tried out the Night Gyr but I see it rarely. Banshee I agree is a trash mech, Nightstar suffers from the wide arms and poor peeking profile. Timber Wolf is bad but still servicable. I do okay in mine on a regular basis. Executioner is a niche build but can run really great short range laser brawl builds.

I hadn't forgotten about the Ice Ferret. It used to be a meta for FP scouting missions. Speed to stay away from the enemy and long range lasers to pick them apart.

There are a few meta builds for the refrigerator but they use heavy med. Only weapons that are light but give it a good punch

Edited by SirSmokes, 01 February 2021 - 08:57 AM.

[VonBruinwald]

Wolfos31, on 01 February 2021 - 08:36 AM, said:

I haven't tried out the Night Gyr but I see it rarely.

Night-Gyr is serviceable, sluggish but serviceable. And about the only good 4xERPPC build next to the Warhawk. Laser heat-sinks allow for much more consistency in firing across maps once you have the timings down and chain firing those things as you cross open ground on Terra is a great way to force then enemy to keep their heads down.

Plus it looks awesome: