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Patch Notes - 1.4.239.0 - 16-March-2021


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#401 Whirler

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 01:42 PM

My dear developers, FINALLY and it's not an exaggeration... FFFFIIIINNNAAALLLYYY!!!
You've just solved an all-time-old problem how to stimulate players to use a LORE-friendly multi-purpose mechs. It's now all have a sense and lore logic to play MWO (to make a role-play) and various new roles on the battlefield!
Oh, I waited it for so long, so nasty lurm/laser/dakka boats in all tiers. Pls, Never reverse it - go deeper, more boldly with your ideas. And please, make sure a guy who pushed the idea of this patch knows - he/she is a Genious!
Grateful much!

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 01:56 PM

View PostWhirler, on 16 March 2021 - 01:42 PM, said:

My dear developers, FINALLY and it's not an exaggeration... FFFFIIIINNNAAALLLYYY!!!
You've just solved an all-time-old problem how to stimulate players to use a LORE-friendly multi-purpose mechs. It's now all have a sense and lore logic to play MWO (to make a role-play) and various new roles on the battlefield!
Oh, I waited it for so long, so nasty lurm/laser/dakka boats in all tiers. Pls, Never reverse it - go deeper, more boldly with your ideas. And please, make sure a guy who pushed the idea of this patch knows - he/she is a Genious!
Grateful much!


Not sure if sarcasm or real honest opinion?
Could you clarify?

#403 The pessimistic optimist

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 01:59 PM

View Posttee5, on 16 March 2021 - 01:56 PM, said:

Not sure if sarcasm or real honest opinion?
Could you clarify?


This is why we need sarcastic text. It's translates poorly to words

Edited by SirSmokes, 16 March 2021 - 02:00 PM.


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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:03 PM

So this is how you welcome the players who came back after 2 years hiatus? Interesting. Might be the record number of builds rendered useless in one go.

I remember angry players used to say: "Whoever made this balance pass doesn't play the game!" Except this time around it's factually correct. Everyone who plays the game knows that PPC (and LPPC, and Snub, and ER-PPC) cooldown was 4 secs because they synced with heavy ballistics.

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:06 PM

View PostSirSmokes, on 16 March 2021 - 01:18 PM, said:


No just human physiology applied we are funny self defeating dimwits a lot of the time ALL OF US


Sometimes we use words we don't mean to prove **** we don't know about, like the difference between physiology and psychology, you done yet you shill.

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:07 PM

My CHP-1N is doing well 2x L.Guass 4xER Medium 2xSRM2 light engine 265

Edited by mcmatthew, 16 March 2021 - 02:12 PM.


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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:11 PM

RIP MASC, a nerf to a system that took up a lot of space and tonnage and was already niche for the most part. Why do mechs have to feel sluggish? Now there’s not even any reason to use for example the executioner or the zeus skokomish when you can pickup mechs that pull the same speed and agility with better hitboxes and hardpoints.

The masc was largely about being to return to cover after a peek quickly (deceleration is key here) and turning quicker to either dodge shots on smaller mechs or get a shooting angle on larger mechs. (your turning rate is REDUCED while using larger mascs now, seriously?) Speed is only one part of it. The speed hardly even got buffed. Your MASC economy is still the same, except you have a larger pool in the start of the match to pull from and if you ever sat idling on 0 MASC before the “buff”, it was a waste of MASC that is less likely to occur now. (Which is fairly irrelevant because you usually have a reason to use the MASC, you’re usually either fighting someone or traversing the map.)

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:12 PM

Loving how the new autocannon velocities only apply to the standard ACs and not to LBs or UACs. Because a slightly faster projectile speed is definitely going to make standard Clan ACs more viable than LBs or UACs, right guys?

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:14 PM

View Postmcmatthew, on 16 March 2021 - 02:07 PM, said:

My CHP-1N is doing well 2x L.Guass 4xER Medium 2xSRM2 light engine 265


https://leaderboard....rch?u=mcmatthew
On the lowest level of skill every weird build seems to work

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:29 PM

View PostAntares102, on 16 March 2021 - 02:14 PM, said:


https://leaderboard....rch?u=mcmatthew
On the lowest level of skill every weird build seems to work


I’m at tier 2, I’m not pro but I’m no potato either. When you get around 600 damage consistently it doesn’t just seem like it’s working, it is working.

#411 mack brawler

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:31 PM

Wow, Daeron been active, he's been on chatting with Phil, just turn on twitch once in a while. No point for him, first of all, he isn't in charge of this travesty, and secondly, without power he really can't diffuse the situation effectively. There's only so much community managing one can do, especially since we know past that point of contact, the players that really know this game, can not actually influence the game. The gulag, all that paperwork, laid out to be implemented and nothing comes of it. They're literally saying don't bother.

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:34 PM

not going to roast these guys trying to improve stuff, but ppcs and guass updates are outta wack and will turn people off of these weapons.... and i do use light ppcs on a few mechs and it having largest cool down time of any of the ppcs, really defeats the purpose of having light weapons... low weight, low damage, faster fire rate... ruins the spirit of having a light weapon class... but in general... these balance changes are not what these class of weapons need or what we asked for, masc is another issue again that its a self limited problem since only a few mechs use it... but this seems like a total nerf to it, lets make masc users nimble and fast again

#413 digitalMe

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:36 PM

Who asked for these changes, especially concerning the weapon balance?
Aren't there more important issues to improve? More valuable things you could create?
To me, this seems like a waste of budget. And another wasted opportunity.

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:48 PM

I like how ~10 same ppl support every bad thing pgi do. Or is it just our Devs have more then 1 acc...

This patch was not needed, not wanted and not necessary. All hype for "Intel Gathering"was like slap in the face for those who spent time on posts for improvements, when someone in company dont give a ....... and just show his programing skills on something like this. look I can do it HAHAHAHA. and like before, all stays the same. Pointless effort to make something of value...
just big disapointment at the end of the day...

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:48 PM

I played Hatamoto chi with 2 err ppc just before the update. And tried now. Not so much difference, because of my skill tree.

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:50 PM

View Postmcmatthew, on 16 March 2021 - 02:29 PM, said:

I’m at tier 2, I’m not pro but I’m no potato either. When you get around 600 damage consistently it doesn’t just seem like it’s working, it is working.

View PostSirSmokes, on 16 March 2021 - 02:31 PM, said:


See pro's because they are manically skilled they know more then everyone else you see. Being able to point and click really accurately make you smart about everything in the game


Mcmatthew, Well, maybe not a total potato, but 600 damage consistently? I get 500 damage consistently and average about 60 match score higher than you with no ams, please refrain from skill hyperbole, its dishonest, you're average and thats fine, your build is still **** and the sniper weapon just became 30% less effective and thats "ok", ok then you be you

Sirsmokes, you are a shill, these changes are pretty dumb and there was a better alternative laid out by the elite players and a few non elites too i might add, who actually do know what the numbers are, and how they affect the game. Even the so called gulag said their changes wouldn't be perfect, but these changes are ridiculous, made by a guy, Chris, who doesn't know how the numbers affect the game as shown by a post in another stream where he literally admitted he didn't know what the heat changes made to maps was or indeed what they were, the gulag leaders have those numbers, down to 2 decimal places, so don't give me that **** about elite players not knowing the game, they know it, you don't.

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:56 PM

View Postmack brawler, on 16 March 2021 - 02:55 PM, said:


Of course most people can read that if they know English, as long as the first and last letter are the same and the length of the word the same the other letters can be mixed up. But here's the thing, psychology/physiology different letters, different meaning, learn the difference.


DUH it can be translated I can read that like its normal English

Edited by SirSmokes, 16 March 2021 - 02:56 PM.


#418 Far Reach

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:56 PM

View PostSirSmokes, on 16 March 2021 - 02:36 PM, said:


I have had so much crap happen in my life. Unless it alien space ship on my front lawn with aliens in it I really don't give an F. It just bugs me to see everyone lose there minds before they even tried the changes and the elitist I know better then everyone else attitude coming form some


You attributing player dislike of these changes as a tearjerk is condescending, at best.
Most of us commenting here know the ropes, when someone is trying to humiliate to deflect attention, we notice this.

So YES, I can indeed believe you are a paid shill on damage control duty, because the alternative is just too confusingly shameful.

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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:57 PM

View PostFar Reach, on 16 March 2021 - 02:56 PM, said:

You attributing player dislike of these changes as a tearjerk is condescending, at best.
Most of us commenting here know the ropes, when someone is trying to humiliate to deflect attention, we notice this.

So YES, I can indeed believe you are a paid shill on damage control duty, because the alternative is just too confusingly shameful.


OK I'm a payed shill happy? No were is my money?

Edited by SirSmokes, 16 March 2021 - 02:57 PM.


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Posted 16 March 2021 - 02:59 PM

View PostSirSmokes, on 16 March 2021 - 02:52 PM, said:

Anyways buddy think what you want I really don't care no sleep will be lost have a great day


"I really don't care"

Posts all over every thread saying how much he loves the patch and PGI is great and everyone else rare just whiners

Hmm.

Edited by bad builds bob, 16 March 2021 - 02:59 PM.






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