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[MechTech Dragoon]

Vladimir Jorgensson, on 16 March 2021 - 12:00 PM, said:

You see, these changes actually reinforce poptarting instead, and kill every other possible way to effectively use PPCs, like PPC assaults boats for example.
I still can't understand how people can't see that increasing frontloaded damage is a boon for poptarts, who do not rely on shorter CD anyway.

I tried out my ppc assault boat. It felt better honestly. Test it out instead of looking at a calculator? idk.

[Purple Invention]

MASC changes are very noticeable after trying it out on my Lanners. I can run MUCH further with the masc engaged and I do love this change. However, the MASC now takes twice as long to cool down to zero again which is a drag. Also, the handling has changed in a major way: turning is significantly more sluggish now while using MASC.
For a 55 tonner like a Lanner it’s not a Huge deal but for an assault that is already sluggish from the engine desync...its a game changer. No one will enjoy running big mech with the new MASC settings.
i had to laugh at the new light PPC settings. Now i can go for whiz during the cooldown!

[Bowelhacker]

As if the people who are already good at this game won't make any kind of change work for them.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Gas Guzzler, on 16 March 2021 - 12:29 PM, said:

Still open about most PPCs but the cooldown feels "unfunly" and frustratingly long.

So far I like changes on lights have to do more testing. I see how this might be less fun on a slower mech

Edited by SirSmokes, 16 March 2021 - 12:37 PM.

[JC Daxion]

That is fantastic you have a full time level designer on board. You guys really need to have him open up the dialouge with what changes can be done quick to get every map, and possibly start rolling out different versions of every map.

If you guys can rework all the maps, add a few unique extra verions of maps, bring back old terra! and make a new map all this year.. Wow that would be wonderful.


Looking forward to see what happens in april!

[Joshua McEvedy]

AnAnachronismAlive, on 16 March 2021 - 10:35 AM, said:

He answered a lot of things in detail on yesterdays NGNGtv-stream and he deserves Kudos for showing up there (check from 5:35 and past).

Daeron sounded like a man who woke up and realized he had been betrayed and played for a fool.

[DAEDALOS513]

Lockheed_, on 16 March 2021 - 11:47 AM, said:

They don't. I have been around small to medium size businesses, whether it's family or friends, all my life. They are incredibly bad at what they are doing, but not bad enough to flat out go belly up. That's their curse. They are in business limbo.
A company like that can only be saved my massive restructuring and the only one's who can do that is EG7 they need someone from the outside to literally take out the trash, break up old paradigms and structures, revoke privileges, hire new people and give the company a total overhaul.

If they're so bad.. how did they get this far? It blows my mind ..

[DAEDALOS513]

SirSmokes, on 16 March 2021 - 11:38 AM, said:

Try 3xLPPC on a light now with stealth now. Its like a slow firing long range AC 20 now it's great. Pretty much ever enemy mech has a hole in it back armor at end now if we lose




Try it this is not bad at all

Good or not.. that's not the point.. these changes are changes no one asked for.. AC2/AC5 velocity buff? MASC tweak?? We've been waiting for a real patch for years and all we keep getting are tweaks and lighting changes.. WE NEED NEW CONTENT. How are you so easily pleased??

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 16 March 2021 - 01:06 PM.

[Yiryi-Sa]

Vlad Ward, on 16 March 2021 - 10:53 AM, said:

Snub Nose makes no sense to me at all, though. It's a PPCINO. The cooldown change desynced it from the AC/20 which kills its utility. It was a pretty weak weapon to begin with and could probably stand to keep the damage buff, revert its cooldown back to 4s, and play with the heat increase until it feels right.

It also desynced its utility with medium lasers. You can now cycle small pulses twice before firing off SNPPCs.

[The pessimistic optimist]

DAEDALOS513, on 16 March 2021 - 01:03 PM, said:

Good or not.. that's not the point.. these changes are changes no one asked for.. we've been waiting for a real patch for years and all we keep getting are tweaks and lighting changes.. WE NEED NEW CONTENT. how are you so easily pleased??

Honestly don't take this wrong way guys but what we want and we need are two different things. In my experience we can fool our self's thinking we need this when that is not what was needed and this is really what we wanted and more importantly NEEDED

[ZMech69]

Whelp another bad patch no one asked for. This confirms decisions on this game is done by ppl that do not actually play the game. Matt + Dareon are just community managers with no real decision control. Russ, this the truth - your dev team sucks, probably has massive tech debt and makes sense why MWO has bad + slow progress.

With how clueless PGI is to MWO, my guess it will take many years for them to just "fix" the game, let alone bring back paying players. I wouldn't and will not spend a dime on this game while PGI has the license for MWO. Hopefully, Microsoft gives the license to a competent studio someday.

[The pessimistic optimist]

ZMech69, on 16 March 2021 - 01:09 PM, said:

Whelp another bad patch no one asked for. This confirms decisions on this game is done by ppl that do not actually play the game. Matt + Dareon are just community managers with no real decision control. Russ, this the truth - your dev team sucks, probably has massive tech debt and makes sense why MWO has bad + slow progress.

With how clueless PGI is to MWO, my guess it will take many years for them to just "fix" the game, let alone bring back paying players. I wouldn't and will not spend a dime on this game while PGI has the license for MWO. Hopefully, Microsoft gives the license to a competent studio someday.

So what I am hearing is PGI hurt your feelings? Seriously this what I am getting they said X and now my feelings are hurt. Try the changes see if they suck first before losing your mind

Edited by SirSmokes, 16 March 2021 - 01:12 PM.

[DAEDALOS513]

SirSmokes, on 16 March 2021 - 01:08 PM, said:

Honestly don't take this wrong way guys but what we want and we need are two different things. In my experience we can fool our self's thinking we need this when that is not what was needed and this is really what we wanted and more importantly NEEDED

You should go into politics

[The pessimistic optimist]

DAEDALOS513, on 16 March 2021 - 01:15 PM, said:

You should go into politics

No just human physiology applied we are funny self defeating dimwits a lot of the time ALL OF US

Edited by SirSmokes, 16 March 2021 - 01:18 PM.

[DAEDALOS513]

SirSmokes, on 16 March 2021 - 01:18 PM, said:

No just human physiology applied we are funny self defeating dimwits a lot of the time ALL OF US

Well I 'apply' like 50,000+ worth of match experience behind my statement(s).

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 16 March 2021 - 01:20 PM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

DAEDALOS513, on 16 March 2021 - 01:19 PM, said:

Well I 'apply' like 50,000+ worth of match experience behind my statement(s).

And because of this we thought of everything and missed nothing?

[DAEDALOS513]

SirSmokes, on 16 March 2021 - 01:21 PM, said:

And because of this we thought of everything and missed nothing?

Let's bottom line and put the doublespeak aside.. if they don't make changes that please the majority of customers, there won't be a game for you to enjoy your light ppc's in.

[YiffyInAJiffy]

Finally got to test the masc stuff out, I love my shadowcat, flea, and hellfire, and I honestly feel like these changes made them lose their identity to me.

Using the shadowcats high mounts to hill peek (something I loved the masc for) feels kind of... nauseous? the decreased deceleration means when swapping your acceleration direction it slows down MASSIVLEY until you hit 0kph, at which point you're no longer decelerating but accelerating, so the rate of speed gain/loss skyrockets. It feels like being on a rocking ship rather than having control of your mech.

The fact that masc on the hellfire now actually slows your turning rate really eats my love for the mech. having a masc meant I could POSSIBLY turn fast enough to actually fight mechs getting behind me if I got isolated, it made it feel more confident taking brawls on the flank, and it made the hellfire a little bit more fun for peeking corners, now I just get to be 1kph faster than a linebacker for 15 second bursts? That's not long enough for a flank, long or fast enough to run away, what does it really give the mech now?

The radius of the circle for knife fighting people with the flea is ALOT larger, this sucks especially when people are hugging cliffs/ridges you can't get over. It's worth mentioning that you can still use the masc to get small bursts of speed to throw off aim, but now it feels like it's just become a slight variation of the locust rather than having a neat niche of going for those <90m fights.


I think at the end of it my biggest complaint isn't even the usefulness as much as it feels like it's a loss of identity for the mechs. masc might not have been perfect, but mechs with it feel like they did bring something different to the table.

edit- Fixed spelling mistakes, woops!

Edited by YiffyInAJiffy, 16 March 2021 - 01:42 PM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

DAEDALOS513, on 16 March 2021 - 01:32 PM, said:

Let's bottom line and put the doublespeak aside.. if they don't make changes that please the majority of customers, there won't be a game for you to enjoy your light ppc's in.

This is what I was talking about and human physiology

[Paladin IIC]

PPCs feel fine, MASC works like a charm. Good job PGI. Ignore the "skilled" players, no one likes cry babies.