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[martian]

Requiemking, on 08 October 2021 - 12:08 PM, said:

If people actually want interesting, team oriented fights, they'd go to Faction play.

I beg to differ, since even the Quick Play can offer some interesting fights sometimes ...

Requiemking, on 08 October 2021 - 12:08 PM, said:

People play QP to CBill grind and pub stomp, ...

Well, usually I am the one who is stomped ...

Requiemking, on 08 October 2021 - 12:08 PM, said:

... and capping points in a Light mech won't get either of those.

Occassionally one can turn the tables, stomp the enemy team and earn some hefty C-Bills.

Requiemking, on 08 October 2021 - 12:08 PM, said:

Again, until the rewards system is changed to actually make completing objectives a viable way to earn Cbills, nobody is going to want to play conquest or any other objective heavy mode in QP and they are not going to want to play Lights.

But I want to play Conquest ...

And I like playing Lights ...

To be honest, I vote for Conquest and Incursion whenever I can ...

[martian]

Requiemking, on 08 October 2021 - 12:08 PM, said:

That doesn't matter. If people actually want interesting, team oriented fights, they'd go to Faction play. People play QP to CBill grind and pub stomp, and capping points in a Light mech won't get either of those. Again, until the rewards system is changed to actually make completing objectives a viable way to earn Cbills, nobody is going to want to play conquest or any other objective heavy mode in QP and they are not going to want to play Lights.

Hi!

I decided to test your theory and I dropped in my UM-R60L(S) UrbanMech "Snowball".

You know, that Christmas free light 'Mech that PGI gave away the last December. You probably have it too.





I voted for Conquest as I often do.





As you can see, even this slow and light 'Mech can be useful in Conquest. Actually, I had fun playing this light 'Mech.

I think that I did something right, considering that I achieved the best Match Score of all 24 players.

I even dished out the most damage of all 'Mechs of the winning team.

Per your request expressed in one of your previous posts, I included objectives into my gameplay. As you can see, I spent the greatest time on capturing various bases of all 12 'Mechs of our team.





I earned 412,733 C-Bills and I would say that it was a nice payout - without the Premium Time, naturally.




Summary:

I think that even if you play light 'Mechs, you can still contribute meaningfully to your team's victory, even when taking care about game mode objectives, if needed.

[Curccu]

Light mech season for me. Tried playing uPL/SPL lights 1st but those were too dependent of what team does or doesn't, had few super nice games and few super bad games and swapped to this cute thing Um-r63s, Superfun and effective mech against pretty much everything. Might just play rest of the season just this mech.

[martian]

Curccu, on 15 October 2021 - 08:25 AM, said:

Light mech season for me. Tried playing uPL/SPL lights 1st but those were too dependent of what team does or doesn't, had few super nice games and few super bad games and swapped to this cute thing Um-r63s, Superfun and effective mech against pretty much everything. Might just play rest of the season just this mech.

I have noticed it too.

There are not so many light 'Mechs with usual short range loadouts, but a relatively high number of light 'Mechs sporting medium- and long-range weapons.

Of course, there are always exceptions: My "Snowball" from the game above is a dedicated brawler.

[martian]

It seems that the combination of the UrbanMech and Hibernal Rift is my lucky charm.

This time I took my Hero Urbie UM-SC UrbanMech "Street Cleaner".

See the photograph taken by the ComStar war correspondent:




I felt lonely as the only survivor of my lance ...




Good Match Score for the tiny light 'Mech, good damage, some kills, good C-Bills, useful XPs.




Urbie rulez!

[PocketYoda]

I enjoy the slower lights myself Adder, Kitfox and Urbies even Wolfhounds and Panthers somewhat etc.. I just do not have the ping time for fast lights.. i die far too fast..

[martian]

MechaGnome, on 25 October 2021 - 06:12 AM, said:

I just do not have the ping time for fast lights.. i die far too fast..

What is your usual Ping?

[Aidan Crenshaw]

MechaGnome, on 25 October 2021 - 06:12 AM, said:

I enjoy the slower lights myself Adder, Kitfox and Urbies even Wolfhounds and Panthers somewhat etc.. I just do not have the ping time for fast lights.. i die far too fast..

There they say "Lights with high ping are unbeatable!" but now I see "Lights with high ping are unplayable!" What is it, now?

[pattonesque]

Aidan Crenshaw, on 25 October 2021 - 11:35 AM, said:

There they say "Lights with high ping are unbeatable!" but now I see "Lights with high ping are unplayable!" What is it, now?

whatever killed them or got them killed last

[ThreeStooges]

Aidan Crenshaw, on 25 October 2021 - 11:35 AM, said:

There they say "Lights with high ping are unbeatable!" but now I see "Lights with high ping are unplayable!" What is it, now?

That ping is usually the last thing a light hears as it is normally a guass round right before the xl blows. Then I found out the myth lynx has urbie level armor when fully survival tree and has become my nonmember one clanker light.

[PocketYoda]

martian, on 25 October 2021 - 08:58 AM, said:

What is your usual Ping?

OCE 85 NA 270 EU 370-400 . usually but even stopping to poke at 250 ping i'm usually cored before i get time to move its that fast.

Aidan Crenshaw, on 25 October 2021 - 11:35 AM, said:

There they say "Lights with high ping are unbeatable!" but now I see "Lights with high ping are unplayable!" What is it, now?

High ping fighting low ping lights is hard to target and kill as the servers see them off where you attack even with the network rewind.. after a certain ping time even network rewind doesn't help..

High ping driving light mechs is somewhat the opposite you get killed easier as the fast ping players see you and kill you easy, you have trouble judging how safe or where you are compared to them..

If i stop in fast mechs i'm dead. as the weapons hit me before i see it and have no time to react.

Thats why i tend to avoid using them much.

Edited by MechaGnome, 27 October 2021 - 12:24 AM.

[martian]

MechaGnome, on 27 October 2021 - 12:16 AM, said:

OCE 85 NA 270 EU 370-400 . usually but even stopping to poke at 250 ping i'm usually cored before i get time to move its that fast.

Yeah, that's a quite high ping.

[Curccu]

Well last season (63) done with 100% lights only, sometimes pretty damn fun sometimes like last day pretty painful like Saturday when I ate few too many dual HGR hits and unless that his is in arm... game over. Frontloaded big alphas weren't that common luckily.
I think most painful game was in MPL WLF while enemy team had 5 freaking cSSRM light hunters and well you can guess how long I lived

But overall positive experience.

[Curccu]

Gotta necro (Just 4 months not bad eh?)
This urbie is freaking monster, I built that as a joke but that is one of my best performing lights so far. 377 AVG matchscore so far, running solo .

[Weeny Machine]

The 35t need a re-scale badly

[LordNothing]

Curccu, on 26 February 2022 - 11:48 AM, said:

Gotta necro (Just 4 months not bad eh?)
This urbie is freaking monster, I built that as a joke but that is one of my best performing lights so far. 377 AVG matchscore so far, running solo .

k9 has always been a strong hero.

[LordNothing]

Weeny Machine, on 26 February 2022 - 04:12 PM, said:

The 35t need a re-scale badly

perhaps a few and a few in adjacent weight classes (no more than say the 10 worst offenders). but i dont think a full blown rescale all the things would add too much to the game and it would eat up a lot of resources. it might be worth a couple new mechs or a map, or a weapons pack (provided there are no retrofits). from a cost benefit analysis, its pretty low down on the food chain.

Edited by LordNothing, 26 February 2022 - 05:03 PM.

[ThreeStooges]

Weeny Machine, on 26 February 2022 - 04:12 PM, said:

The 35t need a re-scale badly

Hasn't happened in the past six years since the last fked up REscale. Not even hinted at on the new(ha ha yeah right) road map.

[Curccu]

LordNothing, on 26 February 2022 - 04:57 PM, said:

perhaps a few and a few in adjacent weight classes (no more than say the 10 worst offenders). but i dont think a full blown rescale all the things would add too much to the game and it would eat up a lot of resources. it might be worth a couple new mechs or a map, or a weapons pack (provided there are no retrofits). from a cost benefit analysis, its pretty low down on the food chain.

Jenner might be still be worst of the lights, maybe if they rollbacked it's and few others rescale... if they have previous size data saved, I think it should be easier and cheaper than starting to recalculate everything from the scratch.

https://mwomercs.com...ight-re-scales/

[Weeny Machine]

Curccu, on 27 February 2022 - 01:10 AM, said:

Jenner might be still be worst of the lights, maybe if they rollbacked it's and few others rescale... if they have previous size data saved, I think it should be easier and cheaper than starting to recalculate everything from the scratch.

https://mwomercs.com...ight-re-scales/

Actually a great idea. That would save a lot of work. Maybe it should be brought to someone's attention who can bring it on the table. However, I suppose, there would be the issues with bolt ons, no?

Edited by Weeny Machine, 27 February 2022 - 01:28 AM.