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[MrMadguy]

This Kit Fox definitely wasn't OP. It was funny to see, how 4 of 5 last 'Mechs were trying to kill it and it was simply face-tanking all damage and even managed to take one 'Mech to hell with himself.

[pbiggz]

MrMadguy, on 20 December 2021 - 07:31 AM, said:

This Kit Fox definitely wasn't OP. It was funny to see, how 4 of 5 last 'Mechs were trying to kill it and it was simply face-tanking all damage and even managed to take one 'Mech to hell with himself.

Seems like the kfx put the work in. It's a notoriously difficult mech to pilot. Do you think it shouldn't be allowed to perform? Cause it sounds like you think it shouldn't be allowed to win ever.

This cherry picked match screen still proves absolutely nothing. You've been in this thread doing the same thing for like 3 weeks now. Gonna give up soon?

Edited by pbiggz, 20 December 2021 - 07:43 AM.

[Maddermax]

MrMadguy, on 20 December 2021 - 07:31 AM, said:

This Kit Fox definitely wasn't OP. It was funny to see, how 4 of 5 last 'Mechs were trying to kill it and it was simply face-tanking all damage and even managed to take one 'Mech to hell with himself.

I don't quite follow, are you posting this because you think the Kitfox is OP, or because you think it's funny he got 666 damage? I mean, the point just wasn't clear.

[martian]

MrMadguy, on 20 December 2021 - 07:31 AM, said:

This Kit Fox definitely wasn't OP. It was funny to see, how 4 of 5 last 'Mechs were trying to kill it and it was simply face-tanking all damage and even managed to take one 'Mech to hell with himself.

If you say "A", you should add "B" too ...

That Kit Fox with MS 379 fared well.

However, you should mention that other light 'Mechs fared worse:

• ACH-E Arctic Cheetah with MS 287
  
• JR7-IIC(O) Jenner IIC with MS 115
  
• ACH-E Arctic Cheetah with MS 291

So the game had one light 'Mech with good MS, another light 'Mech with bad score and two light 'Mechs with slightly above average MS.

[pattonesque]

MrMadguy, on 20 December 2021 - 07:31 AM, said:

This Kit Fox definitely wasn't OP. It was funny to see, how 4 of 5 last 'Mechs were trying to kill it and it was simply face-tanking all damage and even managed to take one 'Mech to hell with himself.

what do you think posting a single screenshot proves

[Der Geisterbaer]

pattonesque, on 20 December 2021 - 09:06 AM, said:

what do you think posting a single screenshot proves

The same it proved one page prior:

That he's still "good" as both selectively presenting singular data points and then selectively reading those as well.

[RickySpanish]

MrMadguy, on 20 December 2021 - 07:31 AM, said:

This Kit Fox definitely wasn't OP. It was funny to see, how 4 of 5 last 'Mechs were trying to kill it and it was simply face-tanking all damage and even managed to take one 'Mech to hell with himself.

Well duh, when the pilot is Lord Hades himself you're going to see results...

[ScrapIron Prime]

Yeah, all he's proven is that a light pilot had a great game but he died and his team lost. That's hardly news.

[Morrex]

been digging myself through this entire thread now.

consider me an outsider. i never participated on these forums before until this very day, and im not by any means a good player.

started with assaults and heavies, didnt do well. got dumpstered alot by lights, btw.

by now i have a little under 500 hours into the game across the last couple years. out of those 500ish hours, only more recently have i more seriously started to use light mechs. mostly kit fox, in all honesty. there is some others, but they are their own different beasts to make work.

piloting lights have genuinely made me better at the game, now finally clawing my way out of low tier by increasingly consistent performance due to a better understanding of the game in general and details in particular.

assaults and heavies taught me the basics, to the point where i felt more confident picking up lights.

lights now do a good job at filling the rest of the picture, and i generally feel an improvement to my personal performance across the board.

do i feel they should be changed?
no.

why?
they have obvious advantages, but those make up for their handicaps, if anything.

a bad pilot will perform bad on all mech classes, same as a good pilot will do magic on any. i dont see lights being different from that. more punishing if you mess up, i'ld argue.

cheers.

[martian]

Morrex, on 20 December 2021 - 10:59 AM, said:

...
only more recently have i more seriously started to use light mechs. mostly kit fox, in all honesty. there is some others, but they are their own different beasts to make work.
...

I appreciate one thing: That you have not been afraid to actually try to pilot light 'Mechs.

[Curccu]

MrMadguy, on 20 December 2021 - 07:31 AM, said:

This Kit Fox definitely wasn't OP. It was funny to see, how 4 of 5 last 'Mechs were trying to kill it and it was simply face-tanking all damage and even managed to take one 'Mech to hell with himself.

Facetanking 4 mechs aka 4 pilots couldn't aim.
Kitfox is tough but it cannot facetank **** rly

[Meep Meep]

Replace face tanking with evading and its a more believable statement. A smaller light mech can splash a lot of damage especially laser wash by simply moving erratically.

[MrMadguy]

pattonesque, on 20 December 2021 - 09:06 AM, said:

what do you think posting a single screenshot proves

I just don't think it would be good to post screenshot of almost every match. For example I didn't posted screenshot of next match with Locust earning 4 kills.

[Kanil]

I mean, I have a lot of screenshots of light 'mechs doing double digit damage floating around, does that count as proof that light 'mechs suck?

Hell, I got one today of a Kit Fox doing exactly zero damage.

[pattonesque]

MrMadguy, on 20 December 2021 - 07:47 PM, said:

I just don't think it would be good to post screenshot of almost every match. For example I didn't posted screenshot of next match with Locust earning 4 kills.

that's cool. Assaults have the highest AMS/WLR and lights have the lowest AMS/WLR across the board.

[MrMadguy]

P.S. This Kit Fox had 6xC-SRM6, i.e. 72 Alpha dmg and was literally two-shotting Assaults, including me. Not OP at all.

Edited by MrMadguy, 20 December 2021 - 08:22 PM.

[Kanil]

MrMadguy, on 20 December 2021 - 08:08 PM, said:

P.S. This Kit Fox had 6xC-SRM, i.e. 72 Alpha dmg and was literally two-shotting Assaults, including me. Not OP at all.

Yeah, it's ridiculously overpowered, as you can see here. But even worse, it's pales in comparison to the Raven, which is true nightmare fuel.

[martian]

MrMadguy, on 20 December 2021 - 08:08 PM, said:

P.S. This Kit Fox had 6xC-SRM6, i.e. 72 Alpha dmg and was literally two-shotting Assaults, including me. Not OP at all.

1. Do you realize that this loadout works only against badly damaged Assaults that have been previously opened by somebody else?

2. Do you realize that this loadout works when the range is 270 m and less?

If this 'Mech is really so powerful that it can two-shot Assault 'Mechs, why is not the QP full of those Kit Foxes? After all, it seems that the 'Mech is so powerful and easy to play - if it can two-shot Assault 'Mech, it means that it can two-shot any 'Mech in the game because light, medium and heavy 'Mechs carry less armor that Assaults..

I suggest that you drop in this 'Mech in the game, so you can two-shot enemy Assault 'Mechs and decide every game that you play. After you do that, you can tell us how you fared in this 'Mech.

[pattonesque]

I don't think I've ever seen a splat KFX because the KFX gets massively owned at close range. It wants to stay far away and ridge-hump

[MrMadguy]

Kanil, on 20 December 2021 - 08:22 PM, said:

Yeah, it's ridiculously overpowered, as you can see here. But even worse, it's pales in comparison to the Raven, which is true nightmare fuel.

Should we count matches, where guys are just AFK?