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[Thrudvangar]

Curccu, on 02 August 2022 - 10:39 PM, said:

LOL

I don't like how someone plays and I'm unable to play like that... lets make it basically impossible.

EXACTLY! I'm sick of all these little ECM ***.holes jumpcheating around with 2 or 3 snubs almost impossible to kill because of the dislocated hitboxes while permanently ****** their space-key...

but thats not the only problem this game has currently... Assault LL snipers everywhere, hiding their 80-100 tons a mile behind everyone else and let the mediums and lights tank ... everything is just ****.ed up in this game right now.

Too much damage, TTK is like an blink of an eye even with 140 CT 95 ST armor and full survivability tree...

Almost nobody has to care about heat. Too much boating, too much alphastriking without to fear any consequences.

This game never sucked like this before.

ALSO: The Maps are either too small for the ranges of all these LLs and PPCs or the ranges of the LLs/velocity of the PPC are too high... holy crap.

I better ride my bike outside midsummer at 35° degrees celcius with two flat tires than playing this crap. thats more fun....

Edited by Alsvartar, 04 August 2022 - 08:16 AM.

[pattonesque]

If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

[Thrudvangar]

pattonesque, on 04 August 2022 - 08:39 AM, said:

If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

ZzZZz Sun Tzu quote from probably exactly this kind of meta player ....

Edit: Maybe you only listened to Sabaton and don't know about Sun Tzu. In this case...

Edited by Alsvartar, 04 August 2022 - 11:10 AM.

[YueFei]

Alsvartar, on 04 August 2022 - 11:07 AM, said:

ZzZZz Sun Tzu quote from probably exactly this kind of meta player ....

Edit: Maybe you only listened to Sabaton and don't know about Sun Tzu. In this case...

That's a lot of butthurt from a dude who pretends not to care about how well he does in a video game.

It's perfectly OK to suck at a video game. The proper response is to either truly not care... or if you somehow do care, then instead of being mad at other players, you strive to improve your play.

[pattonesque]

Alsvartar, on 04 August 2022 - 11:07 AM, said:

ZzZZz Sun Tzu quote from probably exactly this kind of meta player ....

Edit: Maybe you only listened to Sabaton and don't know about Sun Tzu. In this case...

truly, who would even use a Sun Tzu quote in the Mech Warrior On Line forums

[Bassault]

Alsvartar, on 04 August 2022 - 07:47 AM, said:

but thats not the only problem this game has currently... Assault LL snipers everywhere, hiding their 80-100 tons a mile behind everyone else and let the mediums and lights tank ... everything is just ****.ed up in this game right now.

Too much damage, TTK is like an blink of an eye even with 140 CT 95 ST armor and full survivability tree...

Almost nobody has to care about heat. Too much boating, too much alphastriking without to fear any consequences.

This game never sucked like this before.

ALSO: The Maps are either too small for the ranges of all these LLs and PPCs or the ranges of the LLs/velocity of the PPC are too high... holy crap.

I better ride my bike outside midsummer at 35° degrees celcius with two flat tires than playing this crap. thats more fun....

Try torso twisting. Try not exposing yourself to 3-4 mechs. Try using actually good builds. No, that doesn't mean be a metaslave. It just means that your 1 srm6, 1 lrm15, 2 medlas, 1 ac5 build is garbage and you need to revaluate your mech.

[Knownswift]

After giving this a lot of thought, I think the solution is to buff ISMPL so it's the defacto mid weapon again and complete the cycle.

[w0qj]

+1
I truly do not care

Edit: Most of us will die in QP, right?

YueFei, on 04 August 2022 - 11:18 AM, said:

It's perfectly OK to suck at a video game. The proper response is to either truly not care... or if you somehow do care, then instead of being mad at other players, you strive to improve your play.

Edited by w0qj, 04 August 2022 - 05:51 PM.

[killkimno]

snub is bit op now

snub con
1. high pinpoint dmg - special in hit and run
2. lower heat than MPlaser
3. Normal dps to tonnage
4. Maximum range and longer than LP lasers - Mid-range combat possible (with low damage of course)
5. require only two slot, 6 ton

so what now?
1. Can engage low-mid range -> like all round weapon
2. Low heat -> Very important in hit and run
3. not bad cool time
4. Because of this, the instantaneous attack power is very high.


what it is problem?
1. other close combat weapons unnecessary (like MP Laser)
2. too low heat (MP laser * 2 = 12 dmg / 7.6 heat, snub * 1 = 15 (10+2.5*2) dmg / 7 heat)
-> that is main problem


i think need to increase heat.
not cool time, dmg, range

Edited by killkimno, 04 August 2022 - 05:31 PM.

[Thrudvangar]

YueFei, on 04 August 2022 - 11:18 AM, said:

That's a lot of butthurt from a dude who pretends not to care about how well he does in a video game.

It's perfectly OK to suck at a video game. The proper response is to either truly not care... or if you somehow do care, then instead of being mad at other players, you strive to improve your play.

You're absolutely right! No excuse from my side!

I DO suck right now but it's another kind of "i suck" if the game is good and i'm just bad! I can accept that! I move on then.
But the game is bad as it never was before and if you dont play the meta, wich the game allowed before my break a few months ago, you will suck.

I'm not playing this game since 8 or 9 years (with breaks) because it is a good shooter. I'm playing it because it's (kind of)
Battletech.

I always played either "around" or non-meta mechs and was successful. This is not possible anymore.
The new "skilltree" sucks because everyone can invest 91 points in the best options they want, without
any compromises. The maps are too small or the weapon ranges are too large. Damage is too high overall.


All in all, the balance right now is just terrible for those who dont wanna hide behind in their 100 Tons
pushing one button all the time while f.******* up ppl at the opposide end of the map. Or playing JJ-lights
and mediums with snubs only who r.ape their space-key and dont get hit like it should be but this is a well known
story..

I don't understand why ppl are defending this. It's impossible....

I LOVE ANNIHILATORS, on 04 August 2022 - 04:57 PM, said:

Try torso twisting. Try not exposing yourself to 3-4 mechs. Try using actually good builds. No, that doesn't mean be a metaslave. It just means that your 1 srm6, 1 lrm15, 2 medlas, 1 ac5 build is garbage and you need to revaluate your mech.

Really, respectfully. I'm by no means an idiot nor a noob nor a gamepad-playing .... whatever

Well... enjoy the game everybody.

[Rabid Imp]

Love the SNPPC on my ASN, but he only carries one and it really helps the build, makes it fun etc...on anything that can boat them it gets a little bit ridiculous.Ghost heat increase may be the best answer, because it does not seem like it is really affecting anyone.

Edited by Rabid Imp, 05 August 2022 - 09:49 AM.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Yeah, I figure after nerf twin snubs on a Vulcan 5S will be solid. But until they apply some real ghost heat, I'm fielding THREE on it.

[Xeno Phalcon]

ScrapIron Prime, on 05 August 2022 - 10:16 AM, said:

Yeah, I figure after nerf twin snubs on a Vulcan 5S will be solid. But until they apply some real ghost heat, I'm fielding THREE on it.

Pssst, try it on a CDA-3F.



You didn't hear this from me.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Xeno Phalcon, on 05 August 2022 - 12:59 PM, said:

Pssst, try it on a CDA-3F.



You didn't hear this from me.

Heh. Yeah, looked at that too. It was a choice of 20% cooldown quirk vs 25% range quirk. With skills, the Vulcan gets 378m optimal range on the snubs. That's full damage outside SRM and small/micro laser range.

[Xeno Phalcon]

ScrapIron Prime, on 05 August 2022 - 02:10 PM, said:

Heh. Yeah, looked at that too. It was a choice of 20% cooldown quirk vs 25% range quirk. With skills, the Vulcan gets 378m optimal range on the snubs. That's full damage outside SRM and small/micro laser range.

The cooldown quirk meshes really well with the JJ heat quirk, I probably spent the night in the air almost as much as I did on the ground.

[Brizna]

Rabid Imp, on 15 July 2022 - 01:27 AM, said:

Maybe it could be a PPC version of the LBX? Keep the current damage, but lower the pinpoint and increase the adjacent damage. I think it currently does 10 pinpoint, and 2.5 each side. How would 5 pinpoint and 5 each side do? like a PPC shotgun.

I would actually love making it an actual energy LBX, that is multiple "pellets" with an spread cone like the LBX, so it acts as pinpoint in close range and spread at medium range, would be fantastic. But I wonder if PGI is programming this "much" any more in MWO.

[Curccu]

Brizna, on 08 August 2022 - 09:34 AM, said:

I would actually love making it an actual energy LBX, that is multiple "pellets" with an spread cone like the LBX, so it acts as pinpoint in close range and spread at medium range, would be fantastic. But I wonder if PGI is programming this "much" any more in MWO.

No need to code? Just copy paste from old weapons already existing. Probably only challenge would be how to make shot look energy and not just normal LBX (or there may be easy to change values like color, glow etc for each weapon already and that won't be more than 1 hours work to copy paste edit values.)

Edited by Curccu, 08 August 2022 - 09:41 AM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

That would be a good way to ruin the weapon imo. There is a reason SRMs/LBX have been sort of lackluster for brawling since before the cSPL heydays.

It doesn't help that hit reg is sometimes pretty suspicious with that many projectiles.

[Vonbach]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 08 August 2022 - 10:12 AM, said:

That would be a good way to ruin the weapon imo. There is a reason SRMs/LBX have been sort of lackluster for brawling since before the cSPL heydays.

It doesn't help that hit reg is sometimes pretty suspicious with that many projectiles.

Srms seem fine but LBX definitely seem to have something wonky going on with the hit registration.

[Bassault]

Alsvartar, on 05 August 2022 - 08:12 AM, said:

Really, respectfully. I'm by no means an idiot nor a noob nor a gamepad-playing .... whatever

Well... enjoy the game everybody.

Yes, you are. Your stats are available publically. If you want help, go reach out for it, but don't act like it's the game's fault.

Edited by I LOVE ANNIHILATORS, 13 August 2022 - 01:43 PM.