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[Shadowdusk]

What does + to spread mean? Is that the reduction or actually making the lbx spread worse?

[PsionicMantis]

Makes the spread worse/ increase the amount of spread

[Shadowdusk]

Wait a +85 spread means you deal no damage. Thats taking the scattershot name too serious. You won't be able to do enough damage before you die. No wonder people are getting a refund.

[epikt]

Shadowdusk, on 06 October 2023 - 12:41 PM, said:

Wait a +85 spread means you deal no damage. Thats taking the scattershot name too serious. You won't be able to do enough damage before you die. No wonder people are getting a refund.

Spread does not reduce the damage, it only... well, spreads it.

[Meep Meep]

epikt, on 07 October 2023 - 11:54 AM, said:

Spread does not reduce the damage, it only... well, spreads it.

It reduces damage to any specific component and causes more clean misses of pellets. So in effect it reduces effective damage output.

[Curccu]

That massive spread for LB2 and LB5 are because CAULDRON doesn't want it to be snipy mech. Close to short mid range that mech is still monster.

[Meep Meep]

Curccu, on 07 October 2023 - 12:57 PM, said:

That massive spread for LB2 and LB5 are because CAULDRON doesn't want it to be snipy mech. Close to short mid range that mech is still monster.

I have one and tried it many times post nerf. Even mid range is going to miss pellets and spread it all over the mech. It's only at short range is the spread manageable and this is 100% not a close range mech. The only upside is that mrm are still somewhat usable since its an alpha weapon and the no shake jj make it easy to poptart them out. But that leaves pretty much every other build total crap.. Ah well at least they are putting out balanced legendaries now. Huh? Scaleshot? Whats that?

[epikt]

Meep Meep, on 07 October 2023 - 02:46 PM, said:

this is 100% not a close range mech.

It was done with LB2X+SRM2 in mind, it is 100% a close range mech.

[GargoyleVine]

we try to target you more to get you off the table scattershot, adapt or die on the battlefield

[Void Angel]

We're still arguing about this since May? Wow.

[Meep Meep]

epikt, on 07 October 2023 - 06:20 PM, said:

It was done with LB2X+SRM2 in mind, it is 100% a close range mech.

Mech geometry would like to have a word..

[Cyborne Elemental]

I think it got kneejerk nerfed.

Whiny snipers saying that silly LB2x is taking 0.1 damage off my paintjob and slightly blinding them was just too much to handle I guess. The really dangerous builds were MRM20x3 or Lb5 and SRM's.

We payed money for a Porche, and were delivered a Ford Pinto.

I think a 50% rollback on the nerfs to all quirks would be nice, since paying customers keeping PGI's lights on got the shaft a little on the ShadowHawk-SS

Scaleshot Viper is still brutal at backstabbing even after its first nerf.

[Curccu]

Meep Meep, on 07 October 2023 - 07:32 PM, said:

Mech geometry would like to have a word..

Shadowhawk brawlers has been used with great success since they were released...

[Meep Meep]

I suppose thats why I see them so often?

[Samziel]

Meep Meep, on 08 October 2023 - 12:39 AM, said:

I suppose thats why I see them so often?

I do see 2Ks with brawl/poptart builds quite often. How many other early legends do you see often? I havent seen a Dreadnought or Seraph in ages although the mechs are super good.

Scattershot is still decent at mid to short range in my opinion. It still flings bullets like Cent D. Of course theres the issue of being a facetime build but it can be helped with good positioning.

Edited by Samziel, 08 October 2023 - 02:07 AM.

[An6ryMan69]

I've complained loudly about the Scattershot.

It is stupid OP.

And nerfing a paid product is bait-and-switch; arguing that it isn't just makes you look like an azz who should be ignored.

Both the people sick of being eaten alive by the Scattershot and the people angry about their pet SRM slayer getting nerfed are in the right.

PGI needs to do a way better job with this stuff, period.

[Dr Wubs]

Meep Meep, on 20 May 2023 - 01:11 PM, said:

Cbill mechs get a pass because they don't cost real world money.

No they don't.

PGI has a long-standing practice of nerfing the shizzle out of all mechs that were initially sold for money. Why does that include c-bill mechs? Because they are in mechpacks.

[Meep Meep]

Dr Wubs, on 12 October 2023 - 04:32 PM, said:

No they don't.

PGI has a long-standing practice of nerfing the shizzle out of all mechs that were initially sold for money. Why does that include c-bill mechs? Because they are in mechpacks.

I mean they get a pass from undue critisizm for nerfing them not that they are immune to nerfs.

[Curccu]

Saved By The Bell, on 18 October 2023 - 06:35 AM, said:

This thing should be nerfed again and again.

Why? Haven't played but doesn't look like anything super special anymore on paper...

[JPeiper]

Loved all the mech games, this could be good. I suspect "whales" are being chased as in getting new players to spend on mechs that have good querks and weapon placements that actually make sense etc. Then of course a good player gets hold of this mech and cleans house , people shout foul, so it's nerfed. Money in bank, hay no prob if people who have bought it feel ripped off, no money back. LEARN FROM IT. Most online game companies work like this, no I don't like it or condone it but it's the business model .Just be very careful when buying ANY in game item with real cash.
We, in MWO also have the "cauldron" to contend with, another wrench in the works ,that has filled the void of the PGI playtester, and I feel,turned a great tactical game into a COD shooter. Besides the OP lights some with 13 micro pulse who can take down an assault in 3 orbits (or flybys as jj's now work) we have the great new HAGS , 2 HAG30s in a mech and 2 salvos will finish an assault CT .Brilliant move. Good players can hit assault CT's with ease at great range , notice the lack of fafs of late? the CT change by the good old cauldron along with the HAGS leaves it , along with other wide CT mechs, a liability on the field, thats why you see more nighstars etc as they have a smaller frontal profile- typing this as I just lost 2 Kodiaks to HAG damage from daft ranges all of 3 mins into game.Kodiaks retired.