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[PocketYoda]

I could really use some Light Meds myself.

[Meep Meep]

foamyesque, on 17 June 2023 - 07:28 PM, said:

Honestly, that feels like a worse Shadow Cat to me.

Much like the 2x lppc 20 tonners it takes more work to get meaningful damage but its excellent at breaking up static formations and firing lines. I caused an entire line of heavies and assaults to back off a ridgeline because I kept popping them over and over which allowed my own line to push up.

Settled on this fit and instead of having a couple of er or hvy smalls for close in pew I went with 2x lmg. I guess the memory of pir reaming them out with mg spam is strong in many players because the plinking from the lmg will cause many mechs to panic twist or even retreat.

pir-a

[LordNothing]

my only problem with lights is i own all of them. get me more lights.

[Meep Meep]

The game is as much about psychology as tactics and positioning. Get a timid team facing you and even a bunch of aggressive potats can win. Thats why I like harassment builds. Sometimes every single mech fitted out for raw damage output isn't always the way to a win.

[Meep Meep]

Oh I minimize risk as much as possible while trying to be as aggressive as possible to keep guns looking to score a rage hit on me instead of my team. Thats why my favorite mechs are the fastest mechs in the game with the smallest most broken hitboxes with ecm if possible.

[BLACKR0SE]

Meep Meep, on 18 June 2023 - 06:11 AM, said:

The game is as much about psychology as tactics and positioning. Get a timid team facing you and even a bunch of aggressive potats can win. Thats why I like harassment builds. Sometimes every single mech fitted out for raw damage output isn't always the way to a win.

I agree with you.

[SafeScanner]

i like to flash my booty sometimes to gauge how the reds are gonna play then i float around probing before i go all out sure i might take some damage but i find most gravitate to the mech first spotted

[PocketYoda]

feeWAIVER, on 16 June 2023 - 05:52 AM, said:

Who are these good and noble players who refuse to sully their virtue by playing a locust?

Me i refuse to use locusts and fleas because they are too small, if they made them accurate size i'd use them.

[pbiggz]

PocketYoda, on 18 June 2023 - 07:10 PM, said:

Me i refuse to use locusts and fleas because they are too small, if they made them accurate size i'd use them.

Pocketyoda/Mechagnome/Samial

paragon of the MWO community.

[PocketYoda]

pbiggz, on 18 June 2023 - 07:11 PM, said:

Pocketyoda/Mechagnome/Samial

paragon of the MWO community.

I try lol that and the tiny mechs are so finicky to play..

Meep Meep, on 18 June 2023 - 04:57 AM, said:

Much like the 2x lppc 20 tonners it takes more work to get meaningful damage but its excellent at breaking up static formations and firing lines. I caused an entire line of heavies and assaults to back off a ridgeline because I kept popping them over and over which allowed my own line to push up.

Settled on this fit and instead of having a couple of er or hvy smalls for close in pew I went with 2x lmg. I guess the memory of pir reaming them out with mg spam is strong in many players because the plinking from the lmg will cause many mechs to panic twist or even retreat.

pir-a

Dual erppc cougar is ok.

[ManusDei]

I am referring to the obvious Bias in that Inner Sphere mechs are now superior to everything clan in almost every category and tonnage. Allow me to clarify.

Why in Blakes green earth would they allow a 55 ton mech to carry 2 gause rifles, I seen a medium build able to carry 4 PPC's gezus really? I can't get that on most my heavies or assauts. Well now that I dumped all my clan mechs it doesn't really matter.

They think if they didn't buff the lights nobody would play them? Now they run the game without anything to really counter them but a good light mech to kill a light mech. Who wants that?

I sold most of my clan mechs and only have 2 left, I want to sell them. I think all the clan mechs are just worthless now. The Inner sphere Bias and hate for clan mechs has really showed itself in this game. I wonder if it was the CEO's intention and decision to nerf clan mechs into the ground? Congratulations you have achieved total balance. IS rules every weight category.

[ManusDei]

yes you can buy a vapor eagle, it saw one with two gause rifles
and one with 4 ppcs

[Curccu]

ManusDei, on 19 June 2023 - 08:31 PM, said:

I am referring to the obvious Bias in that Inner Sphere mechs are now superior to everything clan in almost every category and tonnage. Allow me to clarify.

Why in Blakes green earth would they allow a 55 ton mech to carry 2 gause rifles, I seen a medium build able to carry 4 PPC's gezus really? I can't get that on most my heavies or assauts. Well now that I dumped all my clan mechs it doesn't really matter.

They think if they didn't buff the lights nobody would play them? Now they run the game without anything to really counter them but a good light mech to kill a light mech. Who wants that?

I sold most of my clan mechs and only have 2 left, I want to sell them. I think all the clan mechs are just worthless now. The Inner sphere Bias and hate for clan mechs has really showed itself in this game. I wonder if it was the CEO's intention and decision to nerf clan mechs into the ground? Congratulations you have achieved total balance. IS rules every weight category.

This whole post doesn't make any sense... Neither does your opening post really.

Lights and mediums OP...
IS bias clans are worthless but clan mediums can run with two gauss rifles or four PPCs...

No more drugs for you.

edit: typo

Edited by Curccu, 20 June 2023 - 05:49 AM.

[pbiggz]

ManusDei, on 19 June 2023 - 08:51 PM, said:

yes you can buy a vapor eagle, it saw one with two gause rifles
and one with 4 ppcs

You do know a gunboat vapour eagle is going to be usually super under-armored and super under-speed. Those loadouts come at a cost.

[ThreeStooges]

pbiggz, on 20 June 2023 - 02:24 PM, said:

You do know a gunboat vapour eagle is going to be usually super under-armored and super under-speed. Those loadouts come at a cost.

Don't tell him about the super sayan god mode that is an ac2 on the lct-1v with all of its 72 shot which can head shot all the enemy team in two minutes or less from spawn wihle drinking a beer and playing blind folded with my foot in a cast under the light of a full moon.

For him the day I head shotted hm was the greatest day of his life but for me it was a tuesday.

[SafeScanner]

ThreeStooges, on 20 June 2023 - 05:38 PM, said:

Don't tell him about the super sayan god mode that is an ac2 on the lct-1v with all of its 72 shot which can head shot all the enemy team in two minutes or less from spawn wihle drinking a beer and playing blind folded with my foot in a cast under the light of a full moon.

For him the day I head shotted hm was the greatest day of his life but for me it was a tuesday.

ac-2 is that even possible to fit?

[Meep Meep]

SafeScanner, on 20 June 2023 - 06:30 PM, said:

ac-2 is that even possible to fit?

Sure. But its silly and pointless.

lct-3v

[SafeScanner]

Meep Meep, on 20 June 2023 - 09:05 PM, said:

Sure. But its silly and pointless.

lct-3v

>.> ....PB AC-2 might try it out

its a true shame there are no lighter versions of the ac for the poor lighs to use at medium/long range

Edited by SafeScanner, 21 June 2023 - 01:15 PM.

[Storky]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, on 16 June 2023 - 06:13 AM, said:

dude, you're able to write.
why aren't you able to read?

your "pro player" is doing worse in lights than he does in his usual and totally not op erll-gauss-mapedging-waiting-for-everybody-else-to-die-before-vulturing-up-the-rest-for-stats-dire.
by a BIG margin.
look it up yourself.

stop making up false facts. but in your defense:
yes, I too consider the peanutbutter and ecm-flea to be a pain in the arse. I've seen them doing good numbers, but then: it is rare for me to repeat them, and if, it's been hard work. HARDER than in my heavies and assaults by far.
I still realise that they're quickly gone once you start hitting them, and rather blame that on me, instead of those who pilot those two just ~better~ than myself.
yo otoh don't. you're insisting on FALSE arguments made on false facts.
but.. you're just repeating those lies, as they're originally from we-all-know-who, who ~you~ and some others consider a good player.


also: done here. my arguments are made, and the facts for those are in CLEAR to see for everybody who's willing to.
no point in repeating myself anymore.

Nah, it's an effort to write for me

We don't agree about statistics argument. I've pointed that damage and k/d are not in direct ratio with an "efficiency".
But you base on these numbers.

I've tryed a 20t and 30t brawling lights myself. It took around 5 matches to grow some patience, then it gone absolutely great.

All I wrote above was proven.

It's completely superior upper hand gameplay. You will never get outpositioned, always can disengage.
You can distract firing lines for days, destroy side torso of Annihilator. You even must not hurry to PC after Betty's "Reactor Online", speed allows to regroup a minute after. Single problem are other lights. And all that supremacy are not represented in dmg and k/d stats.
Even if you've made 400dmg, 1 kill and lose you've had less trouble and negative expirience compared to bigger ones.
With 60kph mech you must not hesitate to move, be always with group, and you will often being damage farmed going on open ground.

Widowmaker1981, on 16 June 2023 - 06:24 AM, said:

i DONT think they are 'OP', i think their ridiculous size enables a playstyle that should not exist (in my opinion). I think they should be increased in size (and given large buffs so they arent useless as a result) so things like running around like a squirrel or trying to leg hump results in guaranteed, immediate death like it does for every other mech above ~30 tons.

+

Meep Meep, on 16 June 2023 - 02:26 PM, said:

Go run your pir fits to farm some tier 3 potats and make a cry moar video about it. Those are fun to watch if a bit disingenuous in the titles.

People argued me that I am not skilled enough to judge the 20tonners. Like I have to try them myself and get a good result.
But when DATA enters the chat, who is top skill player and did all I have been mentioned to do, you just flaming smth pointless in his direction.

Edited by Storky, 22 June 2023 - 01:34 AM.

[Meep Meep]

Storky, on 22 June 2023 - 01:30 AM, said:

People argued me that I am not skilled enough to judge the 20tonners. Like I have to try them myself and get a good result.
But when DATA enters the chat, who is top skill player and did all I have been mentioned to do, you just flaming smth pointless in his direction.

Data makes near any mech seem op when he cherry picks his footage to show him beating up on tier 3s. Thats what being a world class player does. He titles his videos the way he does for clickbait. The average player in any 20 tonner is going to die in a fire if they try to pull the stunts he pulls. Can lights be powerful? Yes, so can any mech class but to make a light perform you are going to have to put in above average skill to get it there.