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[Curccu]

After patch HAGs stupid OP...

[Mechwarrior2342356]

Thanks for ruining the ******* TDR10SE.

For like... no ******* reason either. Did a TDR10SE with PPCs run over your dog?

Edited by the check engine light, 24 October 2023 - 02:58 PM.

[Void Angel]

Wouldn't the heat dissipation help PPC builds? I mean, it sucks that they took the only Armor quirks available on the Thunderbolt chassis, though.

Maybe too many bad memories from when the TDR was the toughest 'mech in faction warfare?

[Mechwarrior2342356]

Void Angel, on 24 October 2023 - 03:14 PM, said:

Wouldn't the heat dissipation help PPC builds? I mean, it sucks that they took the only Armor quirks available on the Thunderbolt chassis, though.

Maybe too many bad memories from when the TDR was the toughest 'mech in faction warfare?

They took the Velocity quirk away. Also nuked the Missile Cooldown, which puts a double whammy on the MRM+Snubs build. It already had some heat dissipation bonuses.

Just ******* spiteful, purposeless ****. The only PPC that would benefit strongly from the cooldown is HPPC and there's already a TDR that is a shoe in for HPPC use, since it can mount 3 of them. Standard PPCs were fine, more cooldown just got you in trouble with the amount of heat buildup from the JJs. The 2 SNPPC+MRM30 build was fun and they just said "nah **** you lol". Other TDRs will do lasers better.

FP is dead, get the **** over it, Cauldron. God willing, it never makes a return. Go on, justify the ******* change. Do it. You're changing things just to change things. Almost wish I could refund Blight just to throw it in your face.

Edited by the check engine light, 24 October 2023 - 04:34 PM.

[The6thMessenger]

Curccu, on 24 October 2023 - 12:39 PM, said:

After patch HAGs stupid OP...

I haven't played it, but I figure as much.

Bet they are gonna be like "it's balanced at comps", or something in that line.

the check engine light, on 24 October 2023 - 03:15 PM, said:

Go on, justify the ******* change. Do it. You're changing things just to change things.

Yeah, the justifications would honestly be nice.

But my takeaway from the Caudron discord lately, is that: "you should know why they are doing things and agree with the consensus, else you don't know the game enough and unqualified to talk about it, and we're just gonna make fun of you if you try".

What can I say, power tends to corrupt, and absolute power, corrups absolutely.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 24 October 2023 - 08:48 PM.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

The6thMessenger, on 24 October 2023 - 04:43 PM, said:

I haven't played it, but I figure as much.

But they are gonna be like "it's balanced at comps", or something in that line.



Yeah, the justifications would honestly nice.

But my takeaway from the Caudron discord lately, is that: "you should know why they are doing things and agree with the consensus, else you don't know the game enough and unqualified to talk about it".

What can I say, power corrupts, and absolute power corrups absolutely.

To hell with those hateful buckets of gutter runoff. Just had to **** with something I liked, didn't they? **** you and your lasers, give me my Thud back.

Edited by the check engine light, 24 October 2023 - 05:12 PM.

[Void Angel]

the check engine light, on 24 October 2023 - 03:15 PM, said:

They took the Velocity quirk away. Also nuked the Missile Cooldown, which puts a double whammy on the MRM+Snubs build. It already had some heat dissipation bonuses.

Just ******* spiteful, purposeless ****. The only PPC that would benefit strongly from the cooldown is HPPC and there's already a TDR that is a shoe in for HPPC use, since it can mount 3 of them. Standard PPCs were fine, more cooldown just got you in trouble with the amount of heat buildup from the JJs. The 2 SNPPC+MRM30 build was fun and they just said "nah **** you lol". Other TDRs will do lasers better.

FP is dead, get the **** over it, Cauldron. God willing, it never makes a return. Go on, justify the ******* change. Do it. You're changing things just to change things. Almost wish I could refund Blight just to throw it in your face.

Spite? Come on. They ditched the missile quirk on all the Thunderbolts; I really have a hard time thinking they did that just to nerf one particular build. And, it does have MASC. And Jump Jets. And ECM. That's a big mobility and survivability boost... I mean, forget lasers; should it do guns in general as well as other Thunderbolts? The loadout after patch still does 16.1 DPS with 3.3 alphas to overheat. It's less accurate with the velocity quirk removed, but that's not insurmountable.

Now, I don't know why a 'mech chassis I seldom see needed to have that missile quirk removed, either - though I suspect they considered it to be a bloat quirk that was added to assist the 'mech's stock build - or why they nerfed the 5SS's only effective builds. I don't know if I'd agree with the reasons if I did know them; but I doubt they're doing work on patches just to spite people.

[The6thMessenger]

Void Angel, on 24 October 2023 - 05:47 PM, said:

Spite? Come on.


...

I don't know if I'd agree with the reasons if I did know them; but I doubt they're doing work on patches just to spite people.

That is what the justification comes in to clarify their position -- that wasn't there.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

Void Angel, on 24 October 2023 - 05:47 PM, said:

Spite? Come on. They ditched the missile quirk on all the Thunderbolts; I really have a hard time thinking they did that just to nerf one particular build. And, it does have MASC. And Jump Jets. And ECM. That's a big mobility and survivability boost... I mean, forget lasers; should it do guns in general as well as other Thunderbolts? The loadout after patch still does 16.1 DPS with 3.3 alphas to overheat. It's less accurate with the velocity quirk removed, but that's not insurmountable. Now, I don't know why a 'mech chassis I seldom see needed to have that missile quirk removed, either - though I suspect they considered it to be a bloat quirk that was added to assist the 'mech's stock build - or why they nerfed the 5SS's only effective builds. I don't know if I'd agree with the reasons if I did know them; but I doubt they're doing work on patches just to spite people.

It's **** That Didn't Need To Happen, with no ascertainable good motivation for them doing it. At best it's "Look we're doing a thing!" The other Thuds all have (or HAD) some kind of neat Stupid Mech Trick, the TDR10SE was never super specialized because of the ECM/MASC/JJ and now they just made it blander. For REASONS.

I ******* HATE them. I liked that mech, I liked that loadout and how it felt, and these jackwagons just tip an apple cart to be tipping it and powertrip about all the **** they can muck with. Whether it was done to **** with one build or not is beside the point. The change was pointless, it negatively impacted something I liked and everything else can go to ******* hell as far as I am concerned. Nobody was ******* begging for this change, nobody was getting ******* facerolled by TDRs with ******* missiles and PPCs. This wasn't a balance change, it doesn't significantly benefit the chassis and it makes velocity builds more of a hassle.

Edited by the check engine light, 24 October 2023 - 06:29 PM.

[avenger cannon]

the check engine light, on 24 October 2023 - 06:01 PM, said:

It's **** That Didn't Need To Happen, with no ascertainable good motivation for them doing it. At best it's "Look we're doing a thing!" The other Thuds all have (or HAD) some kind of neat Stupid Mech Trick, the TDR10SE was never super specialized because of the ECM/MASC/JJ and now they just made it blander. For REASONS.

I ******* HATE them. I liked that mech, I liked that loadout and how it felt, and these jackwagons just tip an apple cart to be tipping it and powertrip about all the **** they can muck with. Whether it was done to **** with one build or not is beside the point. The change was pointless, it negatively impacted something I liked and everything else can go to ******* hell as far as I am concerned. Nobody was ******* begging for this change, nobody was getting ******* facerolled by TDRs with ******* missiles and PPCs. This wasn't a balance change, it doesn't significantly benefit the chassis and it makes velocity builds more of a hassle.

Try submitting a help ticket or something suggesting a change back or change to something you would prefer.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

avenger cannon, on 24 October 2023 - 06:37 PM, said:

Try submitting a help ticket or something suggesting a change back or change to something you would prefer.

...Okay. Sure. Nothing to lose at this point. After I calm down a bit.

Edited by the check engine light, 24 October 2023 - 07:08 PM.

[nvx 116]

after going to the testing grounds after the patch .. i take back what i said about the patch... can you guys fix the optimal range of the heavy gauss now?

[martian]

avenger cannon, on 24 October 2023 - 06:37 PM, said:

Try submitting a help ticket or something suggesting a change back or change to something you would prefer.

the check engine light, on 24 October 2023 - 06:40 PM, said:

...Okay. Sure. Nothing to lose at this point. After I calm down a bit.

This is not a bug or a glitch. This is a deliberate change introduced by PGI. I am not sure if the Tech Support can do anything with it.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

martian, on 24 October 2023 - 08:32 PM, said:

This is not a bug or a glitch. This is a deliberate change introduced by PGI. I am not sure if the Tech Support can do anything with it.

I'd be satisfied with a reversion but I know THAT isn't going to happen. I'll probably have to settle for them knowing I hate their guts for this and hope it somehow blows up in their face, eventually.

Edited by the check engine light, 24 October 2023 - 08:50 PM.

[MechaBattler]

Banshee mounts prioritize highest mounts? Finally! I used to have to do so many weird shenanigans to get things up top and it would make it pointless.

[KursedVixen]

Hey where are my vapor ealgle glowing eyes?!

Where is my Scaleshot for MC?

Frost_Byte, on 21 October 2023 - 01:15 PM, said:

Two things!

The lilypads were exploitable via user.cfg changes and players could see through them. They would offer no visual cover for some. We decided to remove them and remake the area to create a more balanced landscape between players who use user.cfg changes and players who don't.

We forgot to include it in the patch notes, but the bolton for the Vapor Eagle is glowing eyes. Here's a pic

yeah where are they? or is this only for the legend?

Edited by KursedVixen, 24 October 2023 - 10:14 PM.

[martian]

KursedVixen, on 24 October 2023 - 10:13 PM, said:

Where is my Scaleshot for MC?

yeah where are they? or is this only for the legend?

Re-read the patch notes.

"Scaleshot" (the Dragonfly Hero 'Mech) is not supposed to be available in the in-game Store now.

"Scattershot" (the Shadow Hawk Hero 'Mech) is available for now.

[The6thMessenger]

martian, on 24 October 2023 - 10:20 PM, said:

Re-read the patch notes.

"Scaleshot" (the Dragonfly Hero 'Mech) is not supposed to be available in the in-game Store now.

"Scattershot" (the Shadow Hawk Hero 'Mech) is available for now.

Honestly, got me too.

[SafeScanner]

they should another mech called "snowshot" or anything "s-shot" just to mess with people

[Mechwarrior2342356]

SafeScanner, on 24 October 2023 - 11:02 PM, said:

they should another mech called "snowshot" or anything "s-shot" just to mess with people

Shitshot.