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Patch Notes - 1.4.284.0 - 24-October-2023


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#121 avenger cannon

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 06:37 PM

View Postthe check engine light, on 24 October 2023 - 06:01 PM, said:

It's **** That Didn't Need To Happen, with no ascertainable good motivation for them doing it. At best it's "Look we're doing a thing!" The other Thuds all have (or HAD) some kind of neat Stupid Mech Trick, the TDR10SE was never super specialized because of the ECM/MASC/JJ and now they just made it blander. For REASONS.

I ******* HATE them. I liked that mech, I liked that loadout and how it felt, and these jackwagons just tip an apple cart to be tipping it and powertrip about all the **** they can muck with. Whether it was done to **** with one build or not is beside the point. The change was pointless, it negatively impacted something I liked and everything else can go to ******* hell as far as I am concerned. Nobody was ******* begging for this change, nobody was getting ******* facerolled by TDRs with ******* missiles and PPCs. This wasn't a balance change, it doesn't significantly benefit the chassis and it makes velocity builds more of a hassle.


Try submitting a help ticket or something suggesting a change back or change to something you would prefer.

#122 nvx 116

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 08:24 PM

after going to the testing grounds after the patch .. i take back what i said about the patch... can you guys fix the optimal range of the heavy gauss now?

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 08:32 PM

View Postavenger cannon, on 24 October 2023 - 06:37 PM, said:

Try submitting a help ticket or something suggesting a change back or change to something you would prefer.

View Postthe check engine light, on 24 October 2023 - 06:40 PM, said:

...Okay. Sure. Nothing to lose at this point. After I calm down a bit.

This is not a bug or a glitch. This is a deliberate change introduced by PGI. I am not sure if the Tech Support can do anything with it.

#124 MechaBattler

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 09:35 PM

Banshee mounts prioritize highest mounts? Finally! I used to have to do so many weird shenanigans to get things up top and it would make it pointless.

#125 KursedVixen

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 10:13 PM

Hey where are my vapor ealgle glowing eyes?!

Where is my Scaleshot for MC?

View PostFrost_Byte, on 21 October 2023 - 01:15 PM, said:

Two things!

The lilypads were exploitable via user.cfg changes and players could see through them. They would offer no visual cover for some. We decided to remove them and remake the area to create a more balanced landscape between players who use user.cfg changes and players who don't.

We forgot to include it in the patch notes, but the bolton for the Vapor Eagle is glowing eyes. Here's a picPosted Image
yeah where are they? or is this only for the legend?

Edited by KursedVixen, 24 October 2023 - 10:14 PM.


#126 martian

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 10:20 PM

View PostKursedVixen, on 24 October 2023 - 10:13 PM, said:

Where is my Scaleshot for MC?

yeah where are they? or is this only for the legend?
Re-read the patch notes.

"Scaleshot" (the Dragonfly Hero 'Mech) is not supposed to be available in the in-game Store now.

"Scattershot" (the Shadow Hawk Hero 'Mech) is available for Posted Image now.

#127 The6thMessenger

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 10:39 PM

View Postmartian, on 24 October 2023 - 10:20 PM, said:

Re-read the patch notes.

"Scaleshot" (the Dragonfly Hero 'Mech) is not supposed to be available in the in-game Store now.

"Scattershot" (the Shadow Hawk Hero 'Mech) is available for Posted Image now.


Honestly, got me too.

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 11:02 PM

they should another mech called "snowshot" or anything "s-shot" just to mess with people

#129 KursedVixen

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 11:04 PM

View Postmartian, on 24 October 2023 - 10:20 PM, said:

Re-read the patch notes.

"Scaleshot" (the Dragonfly Hero 'Mech) is not supposed to be available in the in-game Store now.

"Scattershot" (the Shadow Hawk Hero 'Mech) is available for Posted Image now.
and what about the vapor eagle glowing eyes?

#130 grayson death carlyle

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 11:51 PM

Bug with the Banshee 3M
if you put 2 medium lasers in the right torso, followed by 2 ppcs, the ppcs will be mounted high (correct). If you do the same in the left torso with 2 ML then a PPC, however, the PPC still prioritizes the hip location and one of the ML is pushed up.

Also, the second HPPC will always be placed on the hip in the 3+ laser right torsos, instead of the secondary high mount, no matter how you pad the lower laser mount.

Edited by grayson death carlyle, 24 October 2023 - 11:57 PM.


#131 KursedVixen

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 11:56 PM

anybody notice the x small and x medium pulse have too much range??? they're the same as clans....

#132 Curccu

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 12:14 AM

View PostKursedVixen, on 24 October 2023 - 11:56 PM, said:

anybody notice the x small and x medium pulse have too much range??? they're the same as clans....

LOL, I don't know what else to say...
You are now jealous to one of the worst weapons in the game while you clan fanboi got your clan fanboi only weapon that was already stupidly good weapon buffed to stupidly OP weapon.

You are getting more ridiculous by day "But muh clan mechs suck, IS OP. IS has moar shiny stuff than my poor clams."

#133 The6thMessenger

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 12:18 AM

View PostKursedVixen, on 24 October 2023 - 11:56 PM, said:

anybody notice the x small and x medium pulse have too much range??? they're the same as clans....


So TF what tho? They can't be? They shouldn't be? Your entire argument is that, clan must be better? Despite face-time lasers are much more dangerous to the user, compared to the alpha-centric C-MPL? It takes 5 MXL cycles (or 2.25s) to exceed what the C-MPL does in 0.8 seconds.

Oh poor Clans, the horror, the humanity! Won't anybody please think of the children?! How can the Clans cope despite superior heat-sinks, smaller FFA and Endo, as well as stronger laser-vomit in genera?!

Edited by The6thMessenger, 25 October 2023 - 12:21 AM.


#134 KursedVixen

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 12:32 AM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 25 October 2023 - 12:18 AM, said:


So TF what tho? They can't be? They shouldn't be? Your entire argument is that, clan must be better? Despite face-time lasers are much more dangerous to the user, compared to the alpha-centric C-MPL? It takes 5 MXL cycles (or 2.25s) to exceed what the C-MPL does in 0.8 seconds.

Oh poor Clans, the horror, the humanity! Won't anybody please think of the children?! How can the Clans cope despite superior heat-sinks, smaller FFA and Endo, as well as stronger laser-vomit in genera?!
yeah but how fast can you do that??? what are the actual stats what's the actual time?

I'm pretty sure the c-med pulse isn't shooting twicw in 2.25 seconds

Edited by KursedVixen, 25 October 2023 - 12:32 AM.


#135 The6thMessenger

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 12:39 AM

View PostKursedVixen, on 25 October 2023 - 12:32 AM, said:

yeah but how fast can you do that??? what are the actual stats what's the actual time?

I'm pretty sure the c-med pulse isn't shooting twicw in 2.25 seconds


... Oh IDK, math?

C-MPL does 7 damage under 0.80, because that is it's duration. It's also doing more than twice the damage in a single pulse -- actually 7 / 1.5 = 4.6667 times a matter of fact, so it doesn't need to fire faster.

As for figuring out the 2.25s:

> 0.25s CD + 0.25s duration for IS, that is 0.5s between cycle.
> Damage is 1.5 with 0.9 heat, so that is 7.5 damage and 4.5 heat for 5 cycles, exceeding 7 of C-MPL.
> With 2.0s, divisible by 0.5s, the 5th cycle doesn't need to count the CD so it's only 2.25s, unquirked/skilled.
> Specifically, it's actually 2.1667s to match the 7 damage.
> While yes, we can just directly reference the DPS: 3.0 = (1.5 / (0.25 + 0.25)), as divisor to 7, that is actually at 2.333333s -- and doesn't account of the front-loaded 50% portion of the cycle.

INB4: "But MXL fires faster and has higher DPS"

XPLs are face-time weapons, they need high DPS to compensate -- the C-MPL aint. It's irrelevant.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 25 October 2023 - 12:50 AM.


#136 KursedVixen

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 12:48 AM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 25 October 2023 - 12:39 AM, said:

... Oh IDK, math? C-MPL does 7 damage under 0.80, because that is it's duration. It's also doing more than twice the damage in a single pulse -- actually 7 / 1.5 = 4.6667 times a matter of fact, so it doesn't need to fire faster. As for figuring out the 2.25s: > 0.25s CD + 0.25s duration for IS, that is 0.5s between cycle. > Damage is 1.5 with 0.9 heat, so that is 7.5 damage and 4.5 heat for 5 cycles, exceeding 7 of C-MPL. > With 2.0s, divisible by 0.5s, the 5th cycle doesn't need to count the CD so it's only 2.25s, unquirked/skilled. INB4: "But MXL fires faster and has higher DPS" XPLs are face-time weapons, they need high DPS to compensate -- the C-MPL aint. It's irrelevant.
and what about cooldown? and fully skilled this time

Edited by KursedVixen, 25 October 2023 - 12:49 AM.


#137 The6thMessenger

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 12:53 AM

View PostKursedVixen, on 25 October 2023 - 12:48 AM, said:

and what about cooldown? and fully skilled this time



Why with cooldown? C-MPL is a poke weapon, IS-MXL is a DPS weapon. If vs, the C-MPL would have dealt just 7 damage, while the IS-MXL could have dealt 12 damage, but taking account of front-loading will only do 3 damage since it can only burn twice, and deny the 3s or 6 cycles, or 9 damage because the C-MPL has the capacity to hide behind cover for 3 seconds.

I honestly forgot the exact values of the skills, and can't run MWO this time. Might want to do the math this time. I've shown you how to do it.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 25 October 2023 - 01:00 AM.


#138 martian

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 01:52 AM

View PostKursedVixen, on 24 October 2023 - 11:04 PM, said:

and what about the vapor eagle glowing eyes?
I do not know and I do not care: I have not bought "Gorewing".

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 02:19 AM

View PostKursedVixen, on 24 October 2023 - 11:04 PM, said:

and what about the vapor eagle glowing eyes?


Did you buy the Gorewing? That's the one with glowing eyes - other 'mechs don't have the bolt-on, as I understand it.

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 08:16 AM

View PostFrost_Byte, on 21 October 2023 - 02:33 PM, said:

The War Emu will be able to equip stalker bush boltons, but an STK-7D cannot equip stalker feathers. The unique legendary boltons are locked to the legendary variant only. This also does not include the hero variants, it has to be the (LGD) variant.



Hmmm… timber wolf… one of the strongest laser vomit heavies in the game getting an armor buff?
Yeah I’m game.


Ah. So that's why nobody ever takes a Timberwolf because they are so strong?





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