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Patch Notes - 1.4.284.0 - 24-October-2023


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#101 The6thMessenger

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 03:21 AM

View Postnvx 116, on 24 October 2023 - 02:09 AM, said:

you run meta mechs and i dont we are not the same


So we have to adjust the game for you, when you're doing it wrong the entire time?

Sure.

#102 nvx 116

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 03:26 AM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 24 October 2023 - 03:21 AM, said:


So we have to adjust the game for you, when you're doing it wrong the entire time?

Sure.

bro .. i had my run in tier 1 from 2014-2017... i dont play serous anymore and i dont wanna raise up my tier back up there i dont want the headache anymore i rather just maintain tier 4 tier 3 like ive been doing since then but them adding the hold time is like adding water to the ocean. also did you not read the bit about me useing heavy gauss only day in and day out since the fafniers release date? i say who ever green lit this patch should go back and check the math of the entire patch they are pushing though cause they are just makeing issues that need to be fixed stand out more than it already is they are littlery useing flex seal on the heavy gauss's muzzle with this patch

Edited by nvx 116, 24 October 2023 - 03:52 AM.


#103 The6thMessenger

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 03:37 AM

View Postnvx 116, on 24 October 2023 - 03:26 AM, said:

bro .. i had my run in tier 1 from 2014-2017... i dont play serous anymore and i dont wanna raise up my tier back up there i dont want the headache anymore i rather just maintain tier 4 tier 3 like ive been doing since then but them adding the hold time is like adding water to the ocean


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#104 Curccu

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 04:03 AM

View Postmartian, on 23 October 2023 - 08:56 AM, said:

You really can not cherrry-pick just one value, while wilfully ignoring all other stats that do not suit your agenda.

Oh he can and does and most likely will continue to do in future. It doesn't make any sense to do so but we cannot stop him from doing so...

View PostGargoyleVine, on 23 October 2023 - 11:09 AM, said:

so your gonna change the map to accommodate cheaters ?? I think you should post the names of the cheaters and suspend and/or revoke their mech pilot license

You know something that is not cheating... is not cheating.
IF PGI changes Code of Conduct so that it is not allowed then it is cheating.

Right now:
The following actions are strictly forbidden:
• Modifying any game client files aside from those expressly listed below:
- User.cfg
etc.

Your opinion about it doesn't change the facts.

View Postnvx 116, on 24 October 2023 - 03:26 AM, said:

bro .. i had my run in tier 1 from 2014-2017... i dont play serous anymore.

It is mind boggling that someone with average percentile 1,2 in 2016 and 2017 managed to get into T1 and claiming that it was serious gaming.

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 04:08 AM

View PostCurccu, on 24 October 2023 - 04:03 AM, said:

Oh he can and does and most likely will continue to do in future. It doesn't make any sense to do so but we cannot stop him from doing so...


You know something that is not cheating... is not cheating.
IF PGI changes Code of Conduct so that it is not allowed then it is cheating.

Right now:
The following actions are strictly forbidden:
• Modifying any game client files aside from those expressly listed below:
- User.cfg
etc.

Your opinion about it doesn't change the facts.


It is mind boggling that someone with average percentile 1,2 in 2016 and 2017 managed to get into T1 and claiming that it was serious gaming.


thats because the fights were more brutal than the pansy sniper fights we have now. also dont use jarls list theres people on there that has scores that makes the whole site unrelyable just like psr

Edited by nvx 116, 24 October 2023 - 04:20 AM.


#106 Curccu

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 04:45 AM

View Postnvx 116, on 24 October 2023 - 04:08 AM, said:


thats because the fights were more brutal than the pansy sniper fights we have now. also dont use jarls list theres people on there that has scores that makes the whole site unrelyable just like psr

Sure fights were bit harder because a lot of elite players have quit this game since then but not that really that much harder in low tiers at least, I have been playing since beta been there done that...
Few sealclubbers in their alts do not change big picture how well player does.

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 04:55 AM

View PostCurccu, on 24 October 2023 - 04:45 AM, said:

Sure fights were bit harder because a lot of elite players have quit this game since then but not that really that much harder in low tiers at least, I have been playing since beta been there done that...
Few sealclubbers in their alts do not change big picture how well player does.

on jarls list this is the case as it averages everyone together as well as your match history to get the the stats on there.. any drastic outlier can mess up the results same.. and also on mwo if someone scores a 4 digit number and the rest of your team scores a tthree diget number. well guess what you tier down half your team

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 10:26 AM

View Postthe check engine light, on 23 October 2023 - 11:19 AM, said:

Who cares anymore? WHY care anymore? It's pretty unambiguous that they care a LOT less than you do, and they're the ones in control.

I care and has been a map favorite since it first came out and how long has the cheating been going on ??

#109 Curccu

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 10:55 AM

View PostGargoyleVine, on 24 October 2023 - 10:26 AM, said:

I care and has been a map favorite since it first came out and how long has the cheating been going on ??


again it is not cheating, it is **** up by PGI.

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 11:15 AM

View PostGlymbol, on 23 October 2023 - 12:28 PM, said:

after the patch the 1M won't be used at all I assume


Well I was mistaken. The 2xMRM10 LCT-1M is really fun to play. I tried it before but it had too little missiles. Now it works better thanks to the new quirks. At least I will play the 1M :-)

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 11:38 AM

Looked in store in game, Scaleshot is not listed to buy for MC, but Dreadnought is. FYI. anyone can confirm?

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 11:55 AM

View PostRonbo, on 24 October 2023 - 11:38 AM, said:

Looked in store in game, Scaleshot is not listed to buy for MC, but Dreadnought is. FYI. anyone can confirm?
i don't see the scaleshot either but yeah i see the dreadnaught.

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 12:01 PM

View PostCurccu, on 24 October 2023 - 10:55 AM, said:

again it is not cheating, it is **** up by PGI.


ha ha ha, well it is both !!

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 12:03 PM

View PostRonbo, on 24 October 2023 - 11:38 AM, said:

Looked in store in game, Scaleshot is not listed to buy for MC, but Dreadnought is. FYI. anyone can confirm?

"Scaleshot" is not supposed to be available in the in-game Store now. "Scattershot" is now available for .

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 12:36 PM

Running the locust 1v with a large x pulse and maxing out cooldown and duration is just great. locusts needed some love

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 12:39 PM

After patch HAGs stupid OP...

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 03:14 PM

Wouldn't the heat dissipation help PPC builds? I mean, it sucks that they took the only Armor quirks available on the Thunderbolt chassis, though.

Maybe too many bad memories from when the TDR was the toughest 'mech in faction warfare?

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 04:43 PM

View PostCurccu, on 24 October 2023 - 12:39 PM, said:

After patch HAGs stupid OP...


I haven't played it, but I figure as much.

Bet they are gonna be like "it's balanced at comps", or something in that line.

View Postthe check engine light, on 24 October 2023 - 03:15 PM, said:

Go on, justify the ******* change. Do it. You're changing things just to change things.


Yeah, the justifications would honestly be nice.

But my takeaway from the Caudron discord lately, is that: "you should know why they are doing things and agree with the consensus, else you don't know the game enough and unqualified to talk about it, and we're just gonna make fun of you if you try".

What can I say, power tends to corrupt, and absolute power, corrups absolutely.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 24 October 2023 - 08:48 PM.


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Posted 24 October 2023 - 05:47 PM

View Postthe check engine light, on 24 October 2023 - 03:15 PM, said:

They took the Velocity quirk away. Also nuked the Missile Cooldown, which puts a double whammy on the MRM+Snubs build. It already had some heat dissipation bonuses.

Just ******* spiteful, purposeless ****. The only PPC that would benefit strongly from the cooldown is HPPC and there's already a TDR that is a shoe in for HPPC use, since it can mount 3 of them. Standard PPCs were fine, more cooldown just got you in trouble with the amount of heat buildup from the JJs. The 2 SNPPC+MRM30 build was fun and they just said "nah **** you lol". Other TDRs will do lasers better.

FP is dead, get the **** over it, Cauldron. God willing, it never makes a return. Go on, justify the ******* change. Do it. You're changing things just to change things. Almost wish I could refund Blight just to throw it in your face.


Spite? Come on. They ditched the missile quirk on all the Thunderbolts; I really have a hard time thinking they did that just to nerf one particular build. And, it does have MASC. And Jump Jets. And ECM. That's a big mobility and survivability boost... I mean, forget lasers; should it do guns in general as well as other Thunderbolts? The loadout after patch still does 16.1 DPS with 3.3 alphas to overheat. It's less accurate with the velocity quirk removed, but that's not insurmountable.

Now, I don't know why a 'mech chassis I seldom see needed to have that missile quirk removed, either - though I suspect they considered it to be a bloat quirk that was added to assist the 'mech's stock build - or why they nerfed the 5SS's only effective builds. I don't know if I'd agree with the reasons if I did know them; but I doubt they're doing work on patches just to spite people.

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Posted 24 October 2023 - 05:52 PM

View PostVoid Angel, on 24 October 2023 - 05:47 PM, said:

Spite? Come on.


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I don't know if I'd agree with the reasons if I did know them; but I doubt they're doing work on patches just to spite people.


That is what the justification comes in to clarify their position -- that wasn't there.





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