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[Frost_Byte]

Hey everyone! We have a lot planned for the November patch and I wanted to give a quick sneak peak on our November legendary mech(we only have one this patch)!



I got this idea in August or September and spent a lot of time working to see if I could even do it ingame. Plus huge thanks to the Cauldron for helping this design come to life in MWO!

[Andrewlik]

NICE
That looks rediculous and I love it!!

[ScrapIron Prime]

So the shield weighs... 4 tons? A ton for every 15 tons of mech weight, like melee weapons in tabletop. Interesting.

Edited by ScrapIron Prime, 01 November 2023 - 09:44 AM.

[Frost_Byte]

One thing to note on this!

As you see, the shield takes up 5 slots in the Left Arm. It also takes up 4 tons. This is not equipment you can toggle, it is locked. We thought that making the shields actual equipment with locked tonnage and slots was the best way to ensure that these remained balanced as they're not "free" additions. Your mech has to pay something for that wall!

If we end up making more shield mechs down the road, we have a table built for Small, Medium, and Large shields with how much they will weigh and how many slots they'll take to keep things consistent.

the check engine light, on 01 November 2023 - 09:39 AM, said:

After you burned me on the TDR? Pass.

who hurt you

[ScrapIron Prime]

the check engine light, on 01 November 2023 - 09:48 AM, said:

I mean you messing with that mech for no damn reason was really a kick in the shin.

What did they do to the Thunderbolt that you didn't like?

Here they're giving us a new Centurion. I Loooooooove Centurions. This is a good thing. Plus it doesn't have hardpoint inflation or the raw tonnage to make that shield utterly abusive. This is gonna be fun.

EDIT... And I already have a build for it. Wallet in standby mode.

Edited by ScrapIron Prime, 01 November 2023 - 09:59 AM.

[Frost_Byte]

ScrapIron Prime, on 01 November 2023 - 09:53 AM, said:

What did they do to the Thunderbolt that you didn't like?

Here they're giving us a new Centurion. I Loooooooove Centurions. This is a good thing. Plus it doesn't have hardpoint inflation or the raw tonnage to make that shield utterly abusive. This is gonna be fun.

Cauldron buffed a mech that we clearly shouldn't have buffed!


Yeah I was a little concerned that it's giving up 10% of its weight for the shield, but after playing around with it a bit I realized that the damage is alright but it will just live forever.

[ENOVA]

holy moly

[Bud Crue]

Frost_Byte, on 01 November 2023 - 09:46 AM, said:

One thing to note on this!

As you see, the shield takes up 5 slots in the Left Arm. It also takes up 4 tons. This is not equipment you can toggle, it is locked. We thought that making the shields actual equipment with locked tonnage and slots was the best way to ensure that these remained balanced as they're not "free" additions. Your mech has to pay something for that wall!

If we end up making more shield mechs down the road, we have a table built for Small, Medium, and Large shields with how much they will weigh and how many slots they'll take to keep things consistent.

So, the bonus makes it look like the shield provides a 100 point bonus or 25/ton. Is that correct? Or is it really 19 points per ton of armor added on from the default of 56 max LA armor, or is it based on the default minimum of 24 that the other Cent's get (which would come out to 27/ton)?

Edit: Just curious how the value/ton calculation comes out, and if you can/willing, answer why you chose the numbers you did.

Edit2: I guess what it comes down to/what I suppose I am really wondering, is why the LA appears to be a base of 32 armor?

Edited by Bud Crue, 01 November 2023 - 10:19 AM.

[Mokkor]

Holy ****! Looks really good!
That's what I expected when PGI first told us about Legendary mechs!

[ScrapIron Prime]

Bud Crue, on 01 November 2023 - 10:07 AM, said:

So, the bonus makes it look like the shield provides a 100 point bonus or 25/ton. Is that correct? Or is it really 19 points per ton of armor added on from the default of 56 max LA armor, or is it based on the default minimum of 24 that the other Cent's get (which would come out to 27/ton)?

Edit2: I guess what it comes down to/what I suppose I am really wondering, is why the LA appears to be a base of 32 armor?

Just from the maths... a Centurion has 32 max armor and a quirk of +24. The shield gives it 76 more points of armor for 4 tons.

The rest I want to hear.

[Tepmnthar]

Well done, bro, really well done. It's absolutely rediculous, and just like a bomb exploded in my *** which shakes me from head to toe.

[An6ryMan69]

Looks fun.

Experience has shown me to not get too exited, or to buy anything, until it has been out for a few months and has settled into its proper place, regarding nerfs and buffs.

[Magrowl]

Now this is a damn proper legend mech. Incredible stuff

[Dr Cara Carcass]

This is a joke, right?

[Magrowl]

Dr Cara Carcass, on 01 November 2023 - 11:06 AM, said:

This is a joke, right?

Why would it be

[Dr Cara Carcass]

Magrowl, on 01 November 2023 - 11:11 AM, said:

Why would it be

Because its a horrible idea.

[Curccu]

Soooo.... bnc-3m with two medium shields in the future? shoot twist...
Or dead side AC20&SNNPC Misery?

Dr Cara Carcass, on 01 November 2023 - 11:12 AM, said:

Because its a horrible idea.

Explain?

[foamyesque]

the check engine light, on 01 November 2023 - 11:20 AM, said:

I'm guessing they would make shields contingent on hand actuators and no weapon hardpoints present. Let's face it, there aren't many situations where not-gun is a better choice than gun.

Counterpoint: Imagine how much damage you could eat with a dead-side Atlas with one of these

[Dr Cara Carcass]

Curccu, on 01 November 2023 - 11:17 AM, said:

Soooo.... bnc-3m with two medium shields in the future? shoot twist...
Or dead side AC20&SNNPC Misery?


Explain?

1.) Most ppl never learn how to position themselves right, or who to find the right path to a target.
2.) Range play is the least effective in all games in my lib.
In any other game it takes a lot less effort to kill someonme onm a distance.

Brawling is something everybody without skill can do, once close enough.
This kills the range game when the brawlers dont even have to learn the maps anymore because they get in range for 4 tons.

Like here in the forums, ppl cry about erll play.
But basically everybody who does that, i can go tharack in game and spot running over open terrain against snipers they have seen shooting at them before. Dont Cry then....

Now they dont evne have to take a longer path to get to the snipers if this gets deployed on too many mechs.
They just go full braveheart and basically have 4 tons throway gimicks that carry them in.

[Ken Harkin]

Damn. Twist and shoot. This thing is all about AC and PPC combat.