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Patch Notes - 1.4.306.0 - 18-February-2025


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#101 Voice of Kerensky

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Posted 16 February 2025 - 09:41 PM

View PostSamziel, on 14 February 2025 - 01:03 AM, said:

Good players will dominate in queue no matter what they bring. They dont need 4 assaults to do that. Though, I didnt mind the lower drop ton change myself.


This does not mean that PGI should meet these people halfway and make their lives easier.
Firstly, I believe that too little time has passed to objectively assess what results the reduction in tonnage has given to groups.
Secondly, no one is stopping PGI from conducting experiments with reducing the number of players in a group.
Thirdly. The Faction Play is open 24/7, the group limit is a full team (12 people), welcome, play in groups.

#102 SafeScanner

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Posted 16 February 2025 - 09:55 PM

I still believe a ecm nerf is a good nerf

#103 Noob 4ever

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Posted 16 February 2025 - 10:09 PM

View PostTiy0s, on 14 February 2025 - 12:06 PM, said:

If you are curious, we publicly post our QP stat gathers of mech performance in quick play. We don't base balance purely off of there but it is good to get ideas of what mechs could be over performing from that list. I encourage you to give it a read to double check the validity of your statements.

https://docs.google....#gid=1582927142


I was scratching my head a lot at the roughneck nerf but looking at those numbers makes it worse. To me the mech always felt like a decent trooper, nothing flashy and it never performed amazing, jsut decent.

Now I'm looking at your numbers and I was wrong: its actually underperforming comapred to other heavies. Its numbers are either in the middle or the bottom, its one of the least played mech already. Why nerf it?

I'm really confused

#104 BlueDevilspawn

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Posted 16 February 2025 - 10:41 PM

View PostWartang, on 16 February 2025 - 05:20 PM, said:

can we finally get a nerf to the light mechs, right now they feel like can take hits they are not meant to. in the table top version a Locust has a total of 4 tons of armor or 64 points of armor, an AC-20 if you hit an arm would rip the thing in half. Here it seems like they can tank hits the the medium mechs can't.


Tabletop is not how a first person shooter is balanced. Using tabletop construction mechanics got us in this mess in the first place.

View PostNoob 4ever, on 16 February 2025 - 10:09 PM, said:

I was scratching my head a lot at the roughneck nerf but looking at those numbers makes it worse. To me the mech always felt like a decent trooper, nothing flashy and it never performed amazing, jsut decent.

Now I'm looking at your numbers and I was wrong: its actually underperforming comapred to other heavies. Its numbers are either in the middle or the bottom, its one of the least played mech already. Why nerf it?

I'm really confused


Popularity does not indicate the strength of a mech. MWO has a big "shiny new mech" syndrome. Whatever is recently buffed/changed or released tends to be the most popular mechs. Performance is gauged separately from popularity. Sometimes a mech simply isn't one that people prefer to play.

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Posted 16 February 2025 - 11:00 PM

View PostTiy0s, on 13 February 2025 - 04:06 PM, said:


I encourage anyone who is unhappy with these changes to voice their displeasure. There's no need for anyone to represent anyone else's voice here.

Are there any specific nerfs you felt were overly problematic or object to? Any specific changes? None of them outright ruined a mech or your ability to play it, rather brought them in line with the norm.



I anticipate this to be the last SR change(except for the SR-7)


Do you want to kill this game completely and become unemployed? If the answer is "yes" then keep nerfing the assaults

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Posted 16 February 2025 - 11:30 PM

Off topic question: will there be more addons for MW5: Mercenaries? I'm already tired of waiting

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Posted 16 February 2025 - 11:34 PM

Poor Osiris...so amazing that it gets the nerf.

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Posted 16 February 2025 - 11:53 PM

And another question for the developers: can you add a function for spectators to connect to matches like it was in the duel mode? Not to a specific fight, but randomly? This is necessary to make cool videos about the game.

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Posted 17 February 2025 - 12:21 AM

View PostWartang, on 16 February 2025 - 05:20 PM, said:

can we finally get a nerf to the light mechs, right now they feel like can take hits they are not meant to. in the table top version a Locust has a total of 4 tons of armor or 64 points of armor, an AC-20 if you hit an arm would rip the thing in half. Here it seems like they can tank hits the the medium mechs can't.

Tabletop isn't a balance source for MWO, and Light 'mechs are a great illustration of why. A 7/11 Light with MASC can run at 14MP, covering 11 clear hexes and entering Heavy Woods. That gives a total +6 modifier; this means that a standard pilot (4/5 Gunnery/Piloting) at Medium range will only hit on a 12 - meaning an accuracy of 2.77%. Even if he's standing still at close range, he's still only got 16.56% accuracy. Other classic Lights, like the Stinger and Wasp, can jump, and all of them have an annoying habit of trying to get into the blind side of slower enemies. All of this adds to Lights' survivability in Tabletop Battletech - and they're still overpowered. Which is fine because they're not expected to take on an Atlas; they're part of a combined force, and players typically play a lance of Battlemechs or more during a standard game.

None of that applies to MWO; we aim hitscan weapons, and are perfectly capable of calling shots against enemy 'mech components. There's no massive penalty to hit a moving target, and a competent 'mechwarrior can pretty easily sweep a Flea's legs with his lasers, or land hits with an AC/10. So that's why balance works different here. The speed and terrain-based penalties to hit Lights are vastly less than tabletop's balance, and we're all piloting individual 'mechs, so a Light has to be able to hold its own to a much greater degree (and even then, no Light pilot wants to go toe to toe with an Assault in MWO.)

View PostCFC Conky, on 16 February 2025 - 06:17 PM, said:

Let’s not forget the always popular ‘the new mechs are DOA!’. Posted Image
Good hunting,
CFC Conky


Man, you're right! I also forgot "Pay to Win," and "New 'Mechs Are Overpowered!"

View PostThe Chancelor, on 16 February 2025 - 09:09 PM, said:

In europe this is a well known fact.


Don't be a racist jackass. I've seen plenty of unhinged diatribes - and played games with plenty of Russians. The only reason you knew he was Russian was the Cyrillic - and what's "well known" - here or in europe - is that you're out of line.

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Posted 17 February 2025 - 04:21 AM

View PostLITROSEXSUAL, on 16 February 2025 - 10:03 AM, said:



АДМИНИСТРАЦИЯ ИДИОТЫ! ИЗ-ЗА ВАС ! ИГРА РУХНЕТ! И СТАНЕТ ОБЫТОЧНОЙ!


Братан, я не знаю о чем ты, ты явно либо не играл в игру, либо играл очень мало. Я любитель штурмовых мехов, я люблю баллистику и ракеты. И мне ничего не мешает нагибать лайты) Я даже скажу так, стрелять из АС20 по лекгому меху такой кайф... иногда бывает случаи, когда одного выстрела достаточно убить. Проблема Штурмовых мехов в том, что они цель номер один, потому что оставленный штурмовик, способен нанести огромный урон. Если ты, на штурмовике, в соло играешь против лайтов, это твоя проблема, а не игры

#111 FRAGTAST1C

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Posted 17 February 2025 - 05:52 AM

Will the Firemoth be on Steam for purchase or not?

#112 CFC Conky

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Posted 17 February 2025 - 11:28 AM

View PostVoice of Kerensky, on 16 February 2025 - 10:14 PM, said:







I strongly recommend that you correct your messages and in the future not spread the emotional incontinence of one person to the entire nation.






’Emotional incontinence’

Excellent expression Sir, I’m going to use it in the future.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

#113 Duke Falcon

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Posted 17 February 2025 - 12:19 PM

OK, new patch and stuffs...
That's nice, but...

MW5 Clans GoG when?!?
Or it's just me who still not see it on GoG?

#114 Khalcruth

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Posted 17 February 2025 - 10:18 PM

View PostBlueDevilspawn, on 16 February 2025 - 10:41 PM, said:


Popularity does not indicate the strength of a mech. MWO has a big "shiny new mech" syndrome. Whatever is recently buffed/changed or released tends to be the most popular mechs. Performance is gauged separately from popularity. Sometimes a mech simply isn't one that people prefer to play.


That's all well and good, but it hardly speaks to why the Roughnecks needed altering.

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Posted 18 February 2025 - 05:44 AM



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#116 simon1812

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Posted 18 February 2025 - 08:43 AM

is there a free mech of February? any event?

PS

even though the patch will go live soon...Im off for work in a few minutes so wont be able to check on it until later tonight.

Edited by simon1812, 18 February 2025 - 09:28 AM.


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Posted 18 February 2025 - 09:43 AM

I'm interested in seeing how the Fire Moth's cockpit will look. It will probably be similar to Mechwarrior 2's. I'm more interested in seeing the skin patterns for that little critter of a light.

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Posted 18 February 2025 - 11:33 AM

Mechs that should be on sale did not have any discount, 0% shown.
Someone didn't double check before updating the store LMAO. Dude should buy beer for his colleagues.

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FUTURE HENRY:
updated 10mins later after throwing out the trash

Edited by HenryFA, 18 February 2025 - 11:52 AM.


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Posted 18 February 2025 - 04:00 PM

View PostEkson Valdez, on 18 February 2025 - 05:44 AM, said:

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Thank you for cleaning out the dirt on the forum, which has no place in communication between people of different nationalities.

Can't check the store right now. Is the Bullshark on sale?

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Posted 18 February 2025 - 04:04 PM

I'm just going to say this. There is nothing wrong with sharing your frustrations and disagreeing, that's human and we all have things that we may agree with and disagree with. That's fine as long as its civil. However, if you have to derail a thread by sinking to a new low by showing your true colors: being racist, prejudice or heartless, then you really need to step back, take a break and evaluate yourself, because that lets everyone know that this is a "you" problem, not a PGI problem. This reminds me of that Sarah's Jenner mess from a decade ago. The same also goes for trying to demand ultimatums to devs and demand that they talk to you.

Also I gotta admit, some of those people complaining about the nerfs went way too far, especially with the name calling to the devs and demands to DM them in order to "prove a point". What an ego some of those guys have.

Edited by Will9761, 21 February 2025 - 10:02 AM.






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