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[ExoForce]

Good thing during the 8v8 QP is that I was hooked on MW5.

[Haeratus]

Okay here is my honest tough... 12vs12 is more forgiving for new builds in my opinion for any mistakes you make wont impact game too much.
On second tough if you are a light or maybe a medium you will have more trouble to do aggressive plays on 12vs12.
But if you go with your test bot you are trying to level up skills with with a bigger team For my case I found better success!

[Darks26]

I absolutely loved the 8v8. Matches were quicker and i think more balanced. Even in the situation of previously stated example of 5 assaults vs a team with 2. Light and Medium mechs can solo an assault with a pilot with decent ability. Can't beat an assault 1-1? get better! 8v8 event que when the number of people online is lower would be amazing. 12v12 seems fine for about 1/3 of the day. The other 2/3's is long que times. The main thing I would love to see improved would being able to actually play a faction match with out waiting hours in que. Dual que mode would be nice, so you can do quick play while waiting for a Faction team or some way to improve people's interest in this mode.

[TheHolyLancer]

FWIW, I like 8v8 as a solo q if there are no soups in the mix. I find that I can affect the outcome of the match (positively or negatively) much more than in 12 v 12.

but with teams, an even average set of players all coordinating brings way more pain than in 12 v 12, esp if they were a 4 man running vomit or other such builds suitable for 4s (IE now with the higher mins so not as much packs of MG / SPL dps boats), they can and will dominate the field that much easier.

if we do full on 8v8, there needs to be no soup queue, or at least a soloq option that lets you avoid the soup if you really wanted with far longer wait times.

[DeathDream]

I enjoyed 8v8 but I will agree, it is less forgiving. But having it from time to time isn't an issue in my book.

[Manboobs-sama]

If you refuse to get rid of the cancer of groups, then just get rid of the matchmaker entirely. No PSR, no Tiers, no search times. Just the first 24 customers in the door have at it. Match quality cannot possibly go lower that 12 v 12 Soup Queue, so why the **** not? I'd rather not wait for my dogshit unbalanced slop games.

[Tesunie]

Manboobs-sama, on 22 August 2025 - 08:44 AM, said:

If you refuse to get rid of the cancer of groups, then just get rid of the matchmaker entirely. No PSR, no Tiers, no search times. Just the first 24 customers in the door have at it. Match quality cannot possibly go lower that 12 v 12 Soup Queue, so why the **** not? I'd rather not wait for my dogshit unbalanced slop games.

Did you play in older FP, back when it was kicking? People's number one complaint was that it had no MM, exactly as you describe. I think there are much better alternatives and solutions to be had over just having nothing anymore for a MM.

And, I might want to mention that groups are not a "cancer". People want to be able to play with their friends. This should be seen as a good thing. Just because you don't like groups, or you don't like to be in a group, doesn't mean everyone else doesn't want to play in groups. If you killed off groups, I think you would be killing a lot of interest into this game. People want to play with friends.

I do think a better solution for groups would be to have them in their own queue (as bad as that can be for the MM with dealing with another bucket), with solo players being able to opt into (as default setting) dropping in group queue as well. I, as a solo player, have no problems dropping with premades.

I believe there are ways we can have balanced matches (within reason), with reasonable queue times. Right now, the largest issue with the MM is the 60%+ assault mechs trying to find matches. This leads the MM to be forced to open all the gates, leading to long wait times (as it waits so much time before unlocking the next gate), as well as the last gate is to disregard mech class. A Drop Deck (first post of this thread) system could remove this last requirement, making it faster and easier on the MM, even with fewer players. No more need to match for 3/3/3/3 mech class would save that much time on the gates opening.

[Kray76]

@Tesunie

The best way would be, start a group que. If there are many players who want to play in groups, then they can play there. Or at least an on/off switch for the QP que, if you dont wanna go inside a groups allowed que. Right now, its not fun if the other side get a closed group and yours only a random one.
but its still the same problem. Small Playerbase.
Let BF6 and Jumpship going live at end of the year, i think some player will vent to those games. Sure, there are no Mechs, but maybe more fun. and you playing to have some fun not for annoyance. Last month i played only 15 QP. And everytime i am starting, i dont wanna play after 2-3 games. idk why. but its not that funny anymore. Many good players are already gone, also we get older and have less time.
This game was played by the "older" generations and now they are 10-15 years older since the beginning. I would think, this generation has some money. They should start e.g. a kickstarter campaign for a revamp or at least for some polishing and advertisment.

[Akumu]

Are you serious?

Now, instead of 5, I have 7 useless assaults in my team in every match that can only do one thing: hide and lose.

Edited by Akumu, 23 August 2025 - 06:05 AM.