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[Grinner]

Hah, than we've certainly met before, at least on opposite sides of the crosshairs. I originally served with the Capellan Confederation under Eagle, and later joined up with the pirate unit House Jurai. I know your unit and HJ has a bit of a storied past, but I never had a personal grudge against anyone in the league and I'm certainly willing to let bygones be bygones.

I went under the handle Lone Wolf in those days, and was pretty active in the forums, especially the RP stuff, back when I was a teenager and had the time to write pages and pages of awful fan fiction. I played through Mercs but had dropped out by the time HC came about. I was young then and only a grunt, I was a Lance Leader by the end but never had overall drop command, so I'll forgive you if the name doesn't ring a bell, lol.

It's good to see a familiar face, even if it's one of my old 'enemies.'

Edited by Grinner, 19 April 2012 - 03:24 PM.

[Banshee Bullet]

After reading a few pages on this topic I want to throw in my two cents:

I almost always start out aiming ct but if I miss my shot and hit you in the leg or a location with an important weapon group I will change my focus to that area.

I fight close up with my beloved lbx's for primary(s) so spread damage occurs frequently. Certain chasis are harder to hit ct consistantly that way and lt/rt shots are common (i.e. catapult). Against light mechs it's not uncommon to hit a leg and if I do real damage to it I'll hit it again to make you limp (I play mw4mercs usually).

If say, I'm fighting a stock dragon (mercs again) with the hgauss in it's right arm, I'm liable to hit that first to "neuter you" as it were.

Basically I'd love to core you out and do nothing but ct damage but if I'm presented with an oppurtunity to destroy a major weapon or a leg first then that's what I'll do.

From the initial post I like the mw2mercs mechanics, they're pretty much exactly how I think things should work.

[Wango Tango]

Like all combat games, the object is to take your opponent down before he does the same to you. This generally means finding combat tactics that get the job done, in this case, taking out the legs. I am not adverse to legging if the opportunity is there. That being said, I wouldn't shed a tear if the devs find a way to make it more difficult to pull off. As long as we are on a level playing field, there shouldn't be any whining.

[Lydia]

Nobody is talking about the real issue which is cockpit sniping ...

Nah, but I only had a problem with legging in MW3

[Tterrag]

Am I a ******* because I'm always legging? Not that that would stop me from doing it.

[Insidious Johnson]

Zombie thread Apocolypse!

[Solis Obscuri]

Insidious Johnson, on 17 May 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

Zombie thread Apocolypse!

Oh for ****'s sake...

[FrostPaw]

Personaly....killing someone via the legs because they chose not to put armour on their legs is the exact way it should happen. The reason players complain about legging has to be because they don't want to put armour on their legs and then feel agrieved people shoot them in the legs.

Put armour on your legs and then kill your enemy while they try to destroy two locations to down you.

[Gucky]

I read a lot of complaints in the forums from people who dislike shooting the cockpit, legs, etc...

A quick reminder for players who don't seem to be aware of this:
Mechwarrior is a wargame and war is hell. Any tactic that lets your team gain an advantage is a valid tactic. If you dislike those tactics or your code of honor doesn't allow you to use them then it is too bad for you but kudos on the roleplay you are sticking to.

If there is a spot on a mech marked as a damage zone then it is ok to shoot it. Nobody forces anyone to do it. If people shouldn't use damaged legs or destroyed cockpits to their advantage the developers would simply take those target zones off but they are not.

What bugs me more is that each mech on the damage monitors looks the same. A catapult, marauder, firefly, jenner etc definitely don't look like eg a hunchback, victor, atlas or imp... The models in the damage monitors should differ for each mech.

[wpmaura]

I am soerly disapointed the care bears won the legging issue. Man I hate carebears they ruin everything

[Rejarial Galatan]

Far as I recall, legging a mech will be a true BIT&& but can STILL happen. Same for 'head' shots. as they say: if you dont want your legs taken out from under you, armor the daylights outta them, OR use terrain to ya know, hide them. As a heavy/assault pilot, i promise you this: you lil gnat scouts come near me, your losing a leg.

[OperationExodus]

If you don't want to deal with legging, play a game where your vehicle doesn't have legs. AKA not MechWarrior. End of story. I personally believe the MW2 mechanics are the best.

[Xantars]

its going to be hard to leg when you sitting on the other side of the moutains in your catapult or stalker sending volleys of steel rain ove the moutains at the enemy mechs as the hit location will be random

[Athena Hart]

Hmm.. Ok.. I'll admit.. I've been known to shoot mechs in the legs, but usually only to slow them down so I could target their Arms/Torso to eliminate their weapons.

Edited by Athena Hart, 10 June 2012 - 08:40 AM.

[Gherrek]

It was terrible playing Mechwarrior 4 online or mechwarrior Mercs, you'd get poptarting jump capable mechs jump up, alfa you with a MAD barrage of PPCs, Gauss and ER Large lasers and muller you, crippling or destroying you in a single salvo, they would overheat but be hidden by terrain/buildings.

Legging was less of an issue in that game, irritating yes but not that bad. But poptarting and the ability to put tons and tons of weapon types on one mech (Ultra AC5/2 Fafnirs anyone?) to just obliterate anything with an alfa made the game frustratingly irritating at times.

The sad thing is that me and my friends who played always designed balanced mechs like we'd be putting them on the tabletop, one or two big guns, something long ranged and a battery of short to medium range weapons was common on a large mech.

[Xandre Blackheart]

Sheesh. Don't like getting legged? What do you think "hull down" is for. Go stand behind a waist high hill and snipe.

[Elysion]

Man you guys, you mech warriors, you are babies!

In starsiege if someone shot you in the toe section you EXPLODED INTO A HUGE FIERY BALL OF DEATH then and there! (hercs dont have ejection seats either!)

And we delt with it, we delt with it by standing behind hills, or shorter team mates.

Whats the point of a gigantic walking battle machine if the walking parts may as well not be there? Thats just a hover tank with little dangly bits trailing down.

[Reyge]

I'm personally of the opinion that it's the players' individual code of honor that allows/prevents legging as a tactic. If you feel it's a loser's tactic, then don't shoot at legs. If you feel that legs are fair-game targets, then go for it. But remember, legs have armor too, and on most mechs, they actually have roughly as much armor as the front torsos do, and usually more, simply because in the world of BT/MW, this is actually a VERY viable tactic. Should legging be banned or punished? No. Frowned upon? Not really. Encouraged? Gods no!

[Kittygrinder]

Elysion, on 10 June 2012 - 09:14 AM, said:

Man you guys, you mech warriors, you are babies!

In starsiege if someone shot you in the toe section you EXPLODED INTO A HUGE FIERY BALL OF DEATH then and there! (hercs dont have ejection seats either!)

And we delt with it, we delt with it by standing behind hills, or shorter team mates.

Whats the point of a gigantic walking battle machine if the walking parts may as well not be there? Thats just a hover tank with little dangly bits trailing down.

Omg you talking about starsiege... i miss that game

Edited by Kittygrinder, 10 June 2012 - 09:52 AM.

[Death Mallet]

I say allow legging. . . have a "destroyed" leg just render the mech immobile.

. . . and just give the legs double the armor potential that the table to game conversion says they "ought" to have.

That makes legging doable, but not always the best strategy.