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[Lunchmeat]

The problem with furries in mechs, is one hit with the flamers and you are ~never~ getting the smell of burnt fur outa the cockpit...

[StealthSlicer]

Lunchmeat, on 26 June 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

The problem with furries in mechs, is one hit with the flamers and you are ~never~ getting the smell of burnt fur outa the cockpit...

True, but then Furries will just tell you about Scalies XD.

Edited by StealthSlicer, 26 June 2012 - 03:43 PM.

[Brosef Stalin]

Hyperius, on 26 June 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

Intimidation and harrassment is in no way covered by Freedom of speech and is in fact illegal. If someone intimidates me, harasses me, or otherwise attempts to harm or violate my rights they are subject to the full penalty of law. And yes I am aware that this is private property (which I might point out that you don't own and can in no way dictate terms) and all speech here is governed by PGI's code of conduct, which I mentioned before, that also protects users from harassment. Care to try again?

>Intimidation and harassment is in no way covered by Freedom of speech and in in fact illegal.

Citation needed. Harassment implies an extended campaign of abuses, but even then there are strict legal precedents you have to jump through to prove that someone has purposely been pursuing you with the intent to continually disrupt your private life. Also, I never mentioned harassment in anything I've said before. I'd prefer it if you didn't try to put words in my mouth, or at least if you did, to better clarify them first. I'm extending every civility in this discussion, I would appreciate it if you would treat me with the same genuine care.

I have never attempted to dictate forum policy, only express my opinions on this topic in as clear an fair a manner as I can.

[Mrllamaface]

I don't see the issue here this has been something that has been going on for thousands of years. See the Mimbres Mogollon culture/Jornada Mogollon culture. Many others too, but I live in the southwest so eh these were the ones that came to mind.

[Bluey]

Raavi, on 26 June 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Bluey - that would be AWESOME to have as a logo and perhaps if you own the rights to it you might consider being kind enough to allow us to use it - or even modify it. I have an artist who does works for me and he could turn this into what another fur here has suggested - scaly paw, furry paw and human hand (thou personally I would object to the last one but that's just me)

I will remove it when you done saving.
You may use it well only editted version this one stays with me ^^

Edited by Bluey, 27 June 2012 - 06:04 AM.

[Cresky]

Figured I would poke my head in here. Just finished reading EVERY post... some of you people have some lung capacity *sigh* Anywho. Its a pleasure to see that the furry community is here as well =^.^= My buddy and myself will probably be making ourselves a merc company when this releases merely for cackles and the like. I shall definately be keeping tabs on this thread *bookmarks* Toodles!

http://www.furaffini...ser/creskychan/

[phinja]

hyperious, stop feeding brosef stalin, it only makes him bigger.

Bro, bro, bro, bro, i know that the furry thread is your favorite thing and your favorite thread what with the majority of your total posts located here, but i'm sure you don't wanna limit your vast mindset to just furries. friends perhaps, family? poisonous reptiles?

[Hyperius]

Brosef Stalin, on 26 June 2012 - 03:45 PM, said:

>Intimidation and harassment is in no way covered by Freedom of speech and in in fact illegal.

Citation needed. Harassment implies an extended campaign of abuses, but even then there are strict legal precedents you have to jump through to prove that someone has purposely been pursuing you with the intent to continually disrupt your private life. Also, I never mentioned harassment in anything I've said before. I'd prefer it if you didn't try to put words in my mouth, or at least if you did, to better clarify them first. I'm extending every civility in this discussion, I would appreciate it if you would treat me with the same genuine care.

I have never attempted to dictate forum policy, only express my opinions on this topic in as clear an fair a manner as I can.

I have treated you with all the good will I can muster good sir.

My mistake on the harrassment part, for some reason it was substituted for abuse in my mind's eye. Regardless, abuse is still very much illegal and so my comment is still correct.

I find it very hypocritical that you demand a citation that intimidation and harrassment are illegal (My mistake for assuming everyone knew that I suppose) when you did not provide one for how they are protected under the right of freedom of speech. My assumption for you not providing said citation for your argument is that it doesn't exist

As for a citation for my argument, Article 19 of the International Covenant of Civil Rights states: "[e]veryone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference" and "everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice". Article 19 goes on to say that the exercise of these rights carries "special duties and responsibilities" and may "therefore be subject to certain restrictions" when necessary "[f]or respect of the rights or reputation of others". This means that if you assault, abuse, slander or attempt to violate another's rights whether physically, verbally or in another form, you are subject to the penalty of the laws regarding those offences.

I say this with as much respect as I can: You lack understanding of human rights and end up using your flawed definitions of said rights to justify the slander and silenceing of those you disagree with. As I said before, you can say that you don't like furries or their lifestyle but you can in no way harrass, intimidate, slander, abuse, or assault (physically or verbally) them. Hopefully you have now achieved a greater understanding of the wonderful rights and freedoms we possess and we can all benefit.

I wish you luck in all your future endeavours.

[Hyperius]

phinja, on 26 June 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

hyperious, stop feeding brosef stalin, it only makes him bigger.

Bro, bro, bro, bro, i know that the furry thread is your favorite thing and your favorite thread what with the majority of your total posts located here, but i'm sure you don't wanna limit your vast mindset to just furries. friends perhaps, family? poisonous reptiles?

Poisonous reptiles sound like fun! They have so many wonderful applications.

[Brosef Stalin]

phinja, on 26 June 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

hyperious, stop feeding brosef stalin, it only makes him bigger.

Bro, bro, bro, bro, i know that the furry thread is your favorite thing and your favorite thread what with the majority of your total posts located here, but i'm sure you don't wanna limit your vast mindset to just furries. friends perhaps, family? poisonous reptiles?

I haven't had much time to explore the forums, and unfortunately this thread popped up in the "hot topics" bar when I finally had some free time to explore the forums. I may not be a vetted everyday user of these forums, and have yet to purchase a founder's pack, but I'm just as entitled to express my opinion that I don't think this is the proper place to discuss the furry fandom as you are to believe it is.

If you'd like to try and make fun of me personally in a thread where I've done nothing but comment solely on my own opinion of the presence of a social movement in the forums, without having once resorted to name-calling anyone specifically please do so. You are, frankly, only making me look better.

Hyperius, on 26 June 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

I have treated you with all the good will I can muster good sir.

My mistake on the harrassment part, for some reason it was substituted for abuse in my mind's eye. Regardless, abuse is still very much illegal and so my comment is still correct.

I find it very hypocritical that you demand a citation that intimidation and harrassment are illegal (My mistake for assuming everyone knew that I suppose) when you did not provide one for how they are protected under the right of freedom of speech. My assumption for you not providing said citation for your argument is that it doesn't exist

As for a citation for my argument, Article 19 of the International Covenant of Civil Rights states: "[e]veryone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference" and "everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice". Article 19 goes on to say that the exercise of these rights carries "special duties and responsibilities" and may "therefore be subject to certain restrictions" when necessary "[f]or respect of the rights or reputation of others". This means that if you assault, abuse, slander or attempt to violate another's rights whether physically, verbally or in another form, you are subject to the penalty of the laws regarding those offences.

I say this with as much respect as I can: You lack understanding of human rights and end up using your flawed definitions of said rights to justify the slander and silenceing of those you disagree with. As I said before, you can say that you don't like furries or their lifestyle but you can in no way harrass, intimidate, slander, abuse, or assault (physically or verbally) them. Hopefully you have now achieved a greater understanding of the wonderful rights and freedoms we possess and we can all benefit.

I wish you luck in all your future endeavours.

I guess that would explain the difference in our interpretation of personal freedom's. Another excerpt from that article:
"The United States has made reservations that none of the articles should restrict the right offree speech and association".
If you're posting from another country I apologize for the misunderstanding, and I do not by any means issue that the US is the greatest country on earth and all others are inferior, etc. etc., but my understanding of free speech is based on our legislation and, since I'm currently sitting somewhere inside the country typing this, in practice I follow those rules. Nowhere within will you find a sound argument that I'm not allowed to say essentially anything I want in regards to my opinions on the furry fandom, or even someone personally, with some minor restrictions involving publishing and advertising. Remember that the burden of truth is on the accuser, so if you believe that I'm somehow breaking a free speech law by stating that I don't think furry discussion belongs here and should be removed, please explain how that qualifies as an infringement.

In the meantime I'll re-iterate that allowing a point of view to be represented without also welcoming its detractors is at best biased and at worst forcefully representative of the entire community here. Simply put, someone has to speak up and say they don't welcome you here otherwise it can be assumed that everyone here condones and endorses being a furry, which we certainly don't.

Edited by Brosef Stalin, 26 June 2012 - 04:53 PM.

[phinja]

Brosef Stalin, on 26 June 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

but I'm just as entitled to express my opinion that I don't think this is the proper place to discuss the furry fandom as you are to believe it is.

me? believe it's the place to discuss such a thing? i don't remember saying that, you might wanna keep from putting words in other peoples mouth, bro.

Brosef Stalin, on 26 June 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

You are, frankly, only making me look better.

Yes, silly me, I now see you're very much loved here, thousands of apologies as why you stay. I wish you many fat children

[Foxmoan]

Anyhoo... with that lil flame war over... If you guys dont wanna see this thread show up on the popular thread section, stop contributing to it with your hate posts. That things automated based off of frequency of posts anyway.

[Spawn613]

>Hates furries.
>Visits furry thread.
>**** logic.



If you don't like furries, don't come into this thread. -.-

[Brosef Stalin]

I'm not trying to flame, I'm expressing my discontent for the inclusion of this content in the official Mechwarrior Online community forums in as civil and rational a way as possible.

Spawn613, on 26 June 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

-snip-

At no point have I said I dislike furries. My only objection, again, is to the inclusion of this content in this forum.

[Foxmoan]

*changes subject to something less annoying*

So how about them Mechs eh? What one do yall plan on using as your starter? and what one of the oters do you think you will buy first when it comes out?

As for me, Im a legendary founder but I think id be in my Catapult and Jenner the most, and I plan on buying the Centurion as soon as it comes out.

[Glory in the Highest]

Paul Inouye, on 24 February 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

This thread deserves to be here just as much as the MLP thread. Feel free to talk about your interests but keep it civil and clean. To the "haters" out there of both MLP or Furries, there are a ton of other threads that have no mention of these topics so best just stay out if you don't like it. We will deal with people purposefully being disruptive to this community as we do with the MLP thread.

A reminder from PAGE 2.

Hooray furries! Yes I am one of you. No I don't own a fursuit. <snarl>

Edited by Glory, 26 June 2012 - 10:09 PM.

[Armored Yokai]

just a question why do you guys dress up as furries?

[Glory in the Highest]

Cementblade, on 26 June 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

just a question why do you guys dress up as furries?

::facepalm::

[PoKeHybrid Trainer Jim]

As a TF fan, it's hard to make a call if I am a furry.

[Armored Yokai]

Glory, on 26 June 2012 - 10:11 PM, said:

::facepalm::

what? ive got nothing against you guys so i just wanna know