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[Sandpit]

Bluten, on 31 October 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

People keep linking that as if it is relevant to what is being discussed.

That's because it is relevant. Several threads have been answered, locked, and deleted today alone regarding these issues. Feel free to look them up. I no longer argue these posts, I post the link and report posts, if the player to decides to keep playing like this they can deal with the consequences when they are reported.

[Odins Fist]

Ralit, on 31 October 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

If you're just going to roll over and give up at 0/2 or 0/3 do yourself (and us PUGers) a favor and don't PUG.

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I totally agree with you on Powering down early in a match.. Totally..
I never roll over, that's something a minion would do... Google Minion if you don't get the actual reference.
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On a side note, I ran into a Clan last night that was advertising in a match, they ran their mouths, and knowing that it was going to be a steamroll, (we had started losing teammates fast), I decided to make an end run around them, came up on their flank, and then proceeded to "CRUBSTOMP" one of their Clan members right in front of 6 of their team, there was nothing they, or he could do, and by the time they opened fire on me, it was already too late.. Trial by Overwhelming fire, missiles, you name it...
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Centurion CN9-AL (customized but no FF armor) Versus Yen Lo Wang (customized)...
CN9-AL won...

Edited by Odins Fist, 31 October 2012 - 02:35 PM.

[Kaijin]

If in the end there is only one, and we've seen this mech fighting previously in the match, and we're in no danger of loising the cap race, I encourage my teammates to stop looking for the last one and cap. If however we haven't seen the mech fighting, we're going to look for it. If we find it disco, we'll cap. If not disco, we'll strip every last part of it off we can without killing it, and then cap, or sometimes we'll just go for maximum punishment and destroy everything.

[Wolverine59]

I Was in this game today, and all my weapones were gone. Of course I'm going to power down. What am I going to do anyway? I would'nt even make a decent bullet sponge, LOL.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Sandpit, on 31 October 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

That's because it is relevant. Several threads have been answered, locked, and deleted today alone regarding these issues. Feel free to look them up. I no longer argue these posts, I post the link and report posts, if the player to decides to keep playing like this they can deal with the consequences when they are reported.

No it's not. It doesn't even mention shutting down in combat.(Did you not read what you repeatedly linked?) As for the threads, I actually posted in them. You don't have to remind me about them as if I didn't know they existed. How about YOU look them up. You're then saying "you no longer argue"; well what do you call quoting me to type what you just typed? Your last bit is pretty irrelevant to everything that came before it.

What is it with people quoting me then typing a pointless mess. But at least your English is good, I suppose.

[Bloody]

on every PUG match i play there can be anything from

0-6 AFKer .. yes 6.. i was a scout and was wondering why my team was still at the base so i turned around and realized 6 of them were afk. The opposing team was confused as they set up and then waited a few minutes before wondering in and capping.

1-3 Suiciders. Usually Ravens for some reason. But is even stripped down Atlasses who were not fully repaired as well.

so yeah Powering down could save you a big repair bill because grinding is pretty much 90% of the game.

you know what, don't worry about it. The net is full of douche bags and *******. Hell i am pretty sure 99.9999999% of the population on the world do not give 2 ***** about you, your time or your fun. Do whatever you want and play how you want because that is what everyone else is doing . PGI is as selfish as anyone else so do not worry about it. Net anonymity allows you to be a complete **** bag

Edited by Bloody, 31 October 2012 - 03:19 PM.

[zenez]

Sandpit, on 31 October 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

That's because it is relevant. Several threads have been answered, locked, and deleted today alone regarding these issues. Feel free to look them up. I no longer argue these posts, I post the link and report posts, if the player to decides to keep playing like this they can deal with the consequences when they are reported.

It is only partially relevant, if they are powering down before the match is decided it is relevant. If they are powering down after the match is decided, ie 7-0, 6-0 against a team working as a team then it is not relevant.

[Lorcan Lladd]

It would certainly be reprehensible to abandon your team mates to their own luck just to avoid a repair fee.

But, as you've mentioned that such behavior has been observed in PUG matches, OP, I feel the need to point out that under such circumstances, those 'team mates' are likely to be complete strangers to you; people whom you may neither know nor wish to, and whom will eventually emerge as adversaries in a future match.
You could hardly be blamed for prioritizing your needs over those of strangers.

Besides, depending on how the match turns out, there might not even remain any team members to abandon.

That said, as I run a pretty inexpensive 'Mech, anyway, if I should believe that there is even the most remote possibility of incurring a high repair bill on at least one element of the opposing team, I'll keep fighting until cored...
Whether mine is the last friendly 'Mech standing or otherwise.

Edited by Lorcan Lladd, 31 October 2012 - 04:13 PM.

[aelfkins]

Aaron DeChavilier, on 31 October 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

(edited for brevity) I power down when I'm surrounded by 5 or more mechs, regardless of my team performance, why? because I will be dead in another second or so, so why bother?

put me in a clan vs clan match with territory / mech factories / dropships / resources at stake you'll see a different level of performance.

Except you won't have the skills, cause you spend half your matches powered down.
You won't have learned how to fight with out an advantage.

[Fraegar]

Recently I have seen a couple people power down and sit there in even matches when their mech is almost destroyed. If you can't afford the repair bill in your mech you should switch to something cheaper.


Another tactic I have seen is when an assault gets a light behind them they can't handle they pretend to run in a direction and go link dead. Then since I would rather help the team out than get a free kill I ignore the supposed link dead mech to only find them shooting at me a minute later.

[Particle Man]

Write down their names and report them for griefing.

[Azulia]

Ryan the Lion, on 31 October 2012 - 09:40 AM, said:

I don't think you have to worry about people powering down right after launch. Most will power down and surrender if they are the last remaining opposite. Happened just the other night and four of us surrounded him and the other four went to cap.

I think that may have been me

I was last man standing in my cat.
I was offered surrender terms of powering down and allowing the cap.
I asked for and was granted a ceasefire so I could power down without incoming fire (and with my back to a wall).
So I powered down.
A bunch of guys came and stood guard so I didn't get up to shenanigans whilst the rest capped.

A lot of my team - who where all dead by this point - where on the chat with "wtf?" and "why aren't you fighting?". Only one or two sane voices amongst them offered that they would do the same in that position.

I'll fight until I'm the last man - but at that point if I don't have a chance, and I'm offered the chance, I will surrender.

I've gone on to win as the last man against 1-3 opponents (the three where already badly battered, or I wouldn't have been able to take them all out), and would keep on fighting against those odds.

I'm thinking that powering down before being the last man (maybe two) amounts to abandoning your team, though.

[FelixBlucher]

Firstly, I am with everyone else in thinking that powering down before putting up any fight is not good. Generally I will fight to the end, or die before it comes to that. I have yet to surrender, but I can understand the tactic. Considering some of the current repair bills, it is very reasonable to do.

I personally would like for there to be an option to surrender built into the game. Perhapse have a bonus for the other team equal to capping if they can get the other team to surrender.
The other thing I would like to see is an eject button, since it would let a player avoid further damage without being at the mercy of whoever is on the other team. It would hold the same value as a death, and maybe would credit the last mech to have damaged it.

I have run into the black out bug, so has one other person I know. It is quite annoying, but I have no choice but to exit the match. When the other person got their mech back after the match, they ended up with a 50K repair bill. Regularly they got about 30K or less. So whoever found them really did a number on them.

[Asmosis]

I'm sorry but it you want to quit the match, then log out.

I wont shoot a disconnected mech since its a bit unfair (repair costs) and it doesnt count as damage for me.

HOWEVER

if you power down during a match, i will proceed to blow off your arms, RT/LT and then both legs to kill you. i'll spare your engine (unless its XL i guess).

My reasoning?
mechs can power up and fight back, had that happen.
Its worth exp and cbills

Unless your the last mech left standing, then i'll go cap. But otherwise it is not "honorable" it is a quitters attitude. I'll continue fighting in my mech even whem im down 7:1, Last match I managed to take out a cat in my jenner and would have got the hunchback there as well if the rest of the team didnt start raining lrms in the general area.

If i catch non-trial mechs doing this often on my team, i'll consider blowing your arms off as well. Fight or Die honorably!

Edited by Asmosis, 31 October 2012 - 06:06 PM.

[Aaron DeChavilier]

aelfkins, on 31 October 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

Except you won't have the skills, cause you spend half your matches powered down.
You won't have learned how to fight with out an advantage.

and you think you're qualified to make a blind judgement call on my skill?

[Ardem]

Perhaps there needs to be a surrender option - wher eyou Mech power downs and hits do not affect it, you keep your cash but lose any XP gained.

This would work with Lore and also be a really cool feature, it would need to be different to you normal powerdown button though.

[MouseNo4]

I have powered down quite a few times in the past. Never once was i ever shown mercy. To everyone ive ever played with, a powered down mech is not a surrendered mech - its a free kill.

[Allekatrase]

I had someone complain about me powering down today. I was the last one alive on our team and was nowhere near the enemy. They had all 8 of their mechs still operational and presumably in our base given the rate at which it was being captured. In that situation what exactly am I supposed to do? Run in and get myself slaughtered? I could have started capping their base but there was no way it would finish first.

Sometimes there's really nothing else to do.

[w0rm]

Yup powered down on a few occasions when my pug team decided to maximize strategical randomness and started winning the facemelt contest again.

[Cole Allard]

Yeah...I had a handfull of those douch***** in my team..."sigh".

Yes...Battletech has this romantic view on War...Honour and stuff, thats pretty nice, I admit. I also admit that there will be a time, when this game has more of the promissed stuff (like Clan Wars), that such "gameplay" will be rewarded by other players. We are all waiting for those days.

BUT THIS IS BETA....a free Beta that is downloadable by about anyone, without ANY age restrictions.

And you guys really...I mean REALLY...shut down your Mechs in a 10 minutes match against you dont know whom? Serious? And the only excuse are the C-Bills?

In PC games and real life, people who give up are scarry and have other issues. Please keep away from them, they tend to drag everyone down and they mastered the usage of "tis-not-my-fault-excuse" Skill.

Bite your teeth together, play it through...what has a beginning needs an end.