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#41 CMDR Sunset Shimmer

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:11 PM

Plenty of other people out there that want to shoot me vass, don't need the 3 other people I'm dropping with doing that for me thanks. :rolleyes:

#42 Leetskeet

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:12 PM

I don't know if engine crits are in, but XL's really do seem to just pop as soon as the internals get touched.

#43 Hikyuu

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:13 PM

View PostQuantumButler, on 06 November 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

I can confirm this is happening 100%

All sections effectively have 0.1 structural HP now and will die the second they take damage.

I have no clue how a bug this game breaking can get through even the worst QA

Oh wait, because PGI doesn't have QA,


yes they do, you're an *****.

#44 Broceratops

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:14 PM

View PostJade Kitsune, on 06 November 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

Plenty of other people out there that want to shoot me vass, don't need the 3 other people I'm dropping with doing that for me thanks. :rolleyes:



i was skeptical but it is happening.

#45 anonymous175

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:14 PM

View PostWingbreaker, on 06 November 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

ACHIEVED WITH WINGBREAKER 3


Vaggago Rain, raised your neighborhood forum posting count.

#46 hornet331

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:16 PM

View PostLeetskeet, on 06 November 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

I don't know if engine crits are in, but XL's really do seem to just pop as soon as the internals get touched.


Wouldn't be surprised if the "tweaked" aka broke the critical system and now every weapon dose criticals at a much higher rate so you see exploding stuff everywhere.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:18 PM

View PostHikyuu, on 06 November 2012 - 05:13 PM, said:

yes they do, you're an *****.

No, listen. Asshattery and joking aside, IF they have an internal testing team it is easily one of the worst that I've ever seen. I'm not convinced that it's not just the devs playing a match here and there when they get a chance. The amount of obvious bugs and issues that get through is nothing less than ridiculous.

They literally release patches and within hours the playerbase has already detected bugs/issues often with math to prove/explain it. Edit : These are not obscure and hard to detect bugs, either. Not to even mention that the same 6 month old issues are still here and have shown no signs of even being worked on.

I've said it a couple times, they're either disconnected from how the game is actually functioning because they're the ones developing it or they're incompetent.

Edited by Leetskeet, 06 November 2012 - 05:19 PM.


#48 QuantumButler

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:21 PM

Someone suggested it might be Endo Steel specific. ALL my mechs use Endo practically.

I will go test this right now

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:21 PM

View Posthornet331, on 06 November 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

Wouldn't be surprised if the "tweaked" aka broke the critical system and now every weapon dose criticals at a much higher rate so you see exploding stuff everywhere.

I wouldn't mind if the LBX10 did this, honestly. It'd give it a purpose.

#50 Vassago Rain

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:21 PM

I'm poofing trialmechs and everybody else in one hit now. Poof. poof. Farming kills. But it's working as intended, right?

Right?

#51 De La Fresniere

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:22 PM

Happened again.

I guess I'll reequip the old SE 190 for now...

EDIT: And yes, I use Endo-Steel too. If that's the problem too, I'm pretty much screwed.

Edited by De La Fresniere, 06 November 2012 - 05:23 PM.


#52 Krivvan

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:24 PM

View PostLeetskeet, on 06 November 2012 - 05:18 PM, said:

No, listen. Asshattery and joking aside, IF they have an internal testing team it is easily one of the worst that I've ever seen.


PGI doesn't have a testing team because IGP is supposed to handle it. From what I've been hearing they've been dropping the ball so that PGI has to make impromptu testing.

#53 LaserAngel

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:27 PM

Well I'll get some books read and marked off my list of things to do. Here's a hotfix, soon.

#54 CG Oglethorpe Kerensky

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:27 PM

We are seeing that EVERY internal hit is a critical hit.

Get hit 3 times in the CT internal and your down.

#55 Broceratops

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:29 PM

View PostQuantumButler, on 06 November 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

Someone suggested it might be Endo Steel specific. ALL my mechs use Endo practically.

I will go test this right now


on a trial mech with standard it got popped instantly as well

#56 SteelPaladin

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:30 PM

View PostCG Oglethorpe Kerensky, on 06 November 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

We are seeing that EVERY internal hit is a critical hit.

Get hit 3 times in the CT internal and your down.


They might have screwed up the crit chance roll... Did you have anything else in your CT? If not, then a 100% crit chance means 1 shot minimum 3 shot maximum to kill on an exposed CT.

Engine crits were never functional before, though. Even w/PGI's patch noting skills, enabling something that major w/o notes seems shocking.

Edited by SteelPaladin, 06 November 2012 - 05:31 PM.


#57 hornet331

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:31 PM

View PostCG Oglethorpe Kerensky, on 06 November 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

We are seeing that EVERY internal hit is a critical hit.

Get hit 3 times in the CT internal and your down.


That would actually be a very good explanation, since most parts in the mech only have 10hp even a triple critical hit of a small laser can kill you engine, not to mention when it not hits the engine but just the internal structure itself nearly 1/3 is gone.

#58 Clay Pigeon

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:35 PM

And since lasers do DoT, each tick should crit.

#59 De La Fresniere

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:36 PM

I kept the Endo-Steel but switched my Engine for a non-XL one, and I didn't die instantly when my side torso internals were damaged.

#60 QuantumButler

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:36 PM

screenshots of the issue

Standard engine swayback [me]

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Jenner I was spectating

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