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#121 Orzorn

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:09 AM

View PostXenomorphZZ, on 07 November 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:

You literally need cover above your head to block LRMs when you cannot break LoS with the spotter.

It basically puts you on a timer. If you don't break LoS with the spotter within the first 10 seconds or so, you'll have been bushwacked by then by the 2-3 LRM salvos (and that's if there's only one LRM user!).

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:12 AM

View PostBackstabbing ****, on 07 November 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

/yawn another Another lrm QQ thread.. here's my 2cents

LRMS are not overpowerd, it's the player skill that determines damage, stop QQing about it for heavens sake it's part of world of mechwarrier.


Player skill on a LRM boat?

LOL!

:)

Edited by Purlana, 07 November 2012 - 09:13 AM.


#123 Marev Kilmer

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:18 AM

View PostBackstabbing ****, on 07 November 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

/yawn another Another lrm QQ thread.. here's my 2cents

LRMS are not overpowerd, it's the player skill that determines damage, stop QQing about it for heavens sake it's part of world of mechwarrier. I understand why you guys cry and whine so much because when good players take out the other team, the other team always has to make excuses about why they lost, they never think perhaps they got outplayed?

Example:

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Perfect example, for every match some1 makes good damage, some of the other team are always gonna blame it on netcode, lrms, or something or other and come crying to forums, and frankly I'm sick of it :) learn to play or if your gonna keep qqing about weapons go play COD instead, This games probobly a bit too complicated for yu.

Great game PGI.. and frankly if LRMS are making the crybabies leave this game, give them another buff I say, I'll even buy more MC if you do :)

Don't change your game for the crybabies, your game is better than dat :)


I'm certain PGI will jump to heed the advise of a member named "Backstabbing ****".

Good game! And... I'm sorry? What was your point in posting a screenshot that CLEARLY shows the problem we're all talking about?

I think you need to recalibrate your sights Ms. ****.

#124 Grraarrgghh

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:19 AM

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:20 AM

Can we ignore the rather obviously crude name please? Its just going to detract from the problem at hand...

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View PostGrraarrgghh, on 07 November 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

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Ah thank you, I'm glad I wasn't the only one noticing that or just imagining it.

Also, did you happen to notice wether or not the Artemis Launcher had direct LoS on that target?

Edited by XenomorphZZ, 07 November 2012 - 09:23 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:21 AM

View PostBackstabbing ****, on 07 November 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

/yawn another Another lrm QQ thread.. here's my 2cents

LRMS are not overpowerd, it's the player skill that determines damage, stop QQing about it for heavens sake it's part of world of mechwarrier. I understand why you guys cry and whine so much because when good players take out the other team, the other team always has to make excuses about why they lost, they never think perhaps they got outplayed?

Perfect example, for every match some1 makes good damage, some of the other team are always gonna blame it on netcode, lrms, or something or other and come crying to forums, and frankly I'm sick of it :) learn to play or if your gonna keep qqing about weapons go play COD instead, This games probobly a bit too complicated for yu.

Great game PGI.. and frankly if LRMS are making the crybabies leave this game, give them another buff I say, I'll even buy more MC if you do :)

Don't change your game for the crybabies, your game is better than dat :)

The trolling is unnecessary.


And If you're not trolling, you really are a naive ignorant person.

Edited by Cel, 07 November 2012 - 09:23 AM.


#127 Marev Kilmer

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:22 AM

View PostXenomorphZZ, on 07 November 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

Can we ignore the rather obviously crude name please? Its just going to detract from the problem at hand...



You're right. The rest of her post was far more worthy of attention.

And no. If PGI is going to allow that filth on the screen, I'm not obligated to ignore it.

#128 QuantumButler

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:22 AM

View PostBackstabbing ****, on 07 November 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

/yawn another Another lrm QQ thread.. here's my 2cents

LRMS are not overpowerd, it's the player skill that determines damage, stop QQing about it for heavens sake it's part of world of mechwarrier. I understand why you guys cry and whine so much because when good players take out the other team, the other team always has to make excuses about why they lost, they never think perhaps they got outplayed?

Example:

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Perfect example, for every match some1 makes good damage, some of the other team are always gonna blame it on netcode, lrms, or something or other and come crying to forums, and frankly I'm sick of it :) learn to play or if your gonna keep qqing about weapons go play COD instead, This games probobly a bit too complicated for yu.

Great game PGI.. and frankly if LRMS are making the crybabies leave this game, give them another buff I say, I'll even buy more MC if you do :)

Don't change your game for the crybabies, your game is better than dat :)


7/10

Good trollpost effort, but it's abit too obvious still, keep up the good work though, 90% of people were probably fooled!

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:24 AM

View PostJings, on 07 November 2012 - 04:53 AM, said:

Well then, you haven't faced any worthwhile enemies.

Organized LRM targets were difficult to handle before, but now with Artermis IV approaching them is horrendous and they make short work of virtually all targets.

Myself and two friends are a trio of Jenner pilots, logically we are the absolute LIVING NIGHTMARE of LRM boats.

Pre-patch we slaughtered them, even when outnumbered. Post-patch? We've given up. We do everything we can to break Line of Sight the second we're aware of lock and we only charge them if there's only one boat (hah).

The problem? One LRM boat is harmless. Get in 180m, he's done. Short work. GG.
Two LRM boats? Position them about 400m apart. Jenners swarming one? Have the other guy nuke the Jenners. I have been killed with a single salvo from a C1 - That didn't happen pre-patch. We can't even split targets like we used to - Previously this would mean they all die because you have two options:
1) Lock the Jenner on your lancemate and die quickly to the Jenner stood behind you as you must maintain facing to get a lock.
2) Try to avoid dying to the Jenner on you.
There was no winning for the LRM boat - Even if he got a lock and fired before being killed, it would take 3-4 salvos to kill a Jenner which is more than enough time to get cored from the back. Not now, we just can't survive coordinated LRM boats any more. We die. Fast. We've completely changed tactics, we can't scout any more out of fear of being the first target. Alpha always dies. The first thing the Cats can lock will get pelted until it's out of lock - If the first thing they can lock is a Jenner then goodnight Irene. Cover doesn't work. The LRMs rain in from the skies above! Hide behind that mountain all you want, they fly up and over. The ridiculously sharp angle means they deal more damage to rear armour than front armour because of your velocity, too.

So to emphasize the point:
Pre-patch we devoured LRM boats for breakfast. They were free kills. We targetted them first because while they threatened the team, they meant nothing to us.
Post-patch we daren't peak our heads over the hills for fear of an LRM lock against us. The Striker is scared of the Missile Boat. This is a problem.


Actually I try and make myself alpha so I can do the lrm dance (as in dodge them all, easiest to do in the start as they are all from one direction although if they use A4 direction is not rly an issue so you can do it at any point of the game) and have some of my team make it halfway before I push....if i am feeling team friendly. But the spirit of your post is right :) Using what a "decent player" does is bad because a "decent Jenner" should have no problems dealing with an lrmboat but a "decent lrmboat" has no problems dealing with a Jenner....

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:24 AM

View PostQuantumButler, on 07 November 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

7/10

Good trollpost effort, but it's abit too obvious still, keep up the good work though, 90% of people were probably fooled!


Because I like LRMS it makes me a troll? whatever then.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:24 AM

View PostMarev Kilmer, on 07 November 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:



You're right. The rest of her post was far more worthy of attention.

And no. If PGI is going to allow that filth on the screen, I'm not obligated to ignore it.


Then just send in a ticket, and report the post.

#132 QuantumButler

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:25 AM

View PostBackstabbing ****, on 07 November 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:


Because I like LRMS it makes me a troll? whatever then.


If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem.

#133 Purlana

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:25 AM

View PostBackstabbing ****, on 07 November 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:


Because I like LRMS it makes me a troll? whatever then.


Nah, being named a backstabbing **** makes you a troll.

Edited by Purlana, 07 November 2012 - 09:25 AM.


#134 4er3BaPa

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:26 AM

if u market as target with NARC or TAG - no chance vs. LRMs with Arthemis
missile-crusade-war begins

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:27 AM

View PostPurlana, on 07 November 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:


Nah, being named a backstabbing **** makes you a troll.


Actually it was claiming that they had skill while using the currently OP (and most skilless) weapon and calling everyone else skilless.

Edited by Noth, 07 November 2012 - 09:28 AM.


#136 QuantumButler

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:29 AM

View PostNoth, on 07 November 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:


Actually it was claiming that they had skill while using the currently OP (and most skilless) weapon and calling everyone else skilless.


And bingo was his name-o.

What we're seeing from Backstabbing ***** is sometimes called trolling, sometimes called fakeposting [or 'posting ironically' in some circles], posters engage in it for the sake of comedy.

Edited by QuantumButler, 07 November 2012 - 09:31 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:34 AM

Not to mention posting a picture of ridiculous damage that even on my most epic games (where I'm having to pick up my team's slack) I could not achieve after killing 6 enemies.

1310 or something being my highest as an assault. If everyone pulls their weight, you'll see a nice distribution of damage across the board and not just a huge spike in damage.

Sorry backstabbing *****, but playing an LRM does not make you good. Not even close. So enjoy it while your delusion lasts.

Edited by Cel, 07 November 2012 - 09:34 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:35 AM

View PostBackstabbing ****, on 07 November 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:


Because I like LRMS it makes me a troll? whatever then.

He was giving you the benefit of doubt when he called you a troll.

Most of us assume that semi-rational people would look at screenshots like the one you posted - realizing that you absolutely could not achieve anything close to those numbers with any weapons other than LRMs - and recognize that they indicate a severe imbalance in the game.

Getting over 1,000 damage with current-status LRMs doesn't indicate "skill" so much as it does the ability to press R + left mouse button.

#139 Marev Kilmer

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:35 AM

S(He)'s posted this in several topics. Just trolling as others have mentioned.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:37 AM

sorry if I appear to be a troll to you all. I'll shut up now and go back to playing





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