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[Joe Lilac]

I can say this; If a third person view is put into the game I know of at least ten founders, myself included, who will no longer pay, play, or promote this game to the general public.... Oh, and bring back the knock down and implement the twelve man drops, or the game will die and be of no profit to anyone.

[JayVrb]

Joe Lilac, on 18 November 2012 - 08:42 AM, said:

I can say this; If a third person view is put into the game I know of at least ten founders, myself included, who will no longer pay, play, or promote this game to the general public.... Oh, and bring back the knock down and implement the twelve man drops, or the game will die and be of no profit to anyone.

You're such a whiner, joe.

- Vrbas

[AlexWildeagle]

Really don't care! All this crying and whining, get over it!

Plain and simple, if you don't like it don't use it. That simple.

I don't see a real use for it but I'm not a developer.

[p00k]

oh wow just noticed the forum users restriction.

or...maybe i'm just the only person with nothing better to do than read the forums on a sunday morning

[Vassago Rain]

Samantha, on 18 November 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

Seems like it. Pretty sure everyone can see for themselves. "1 user(s) are reading this topic" Seems like beta feedback forums and founders is becoming the inconvienent wife while they search for a new mistress.. I just wished they did stealth bug fixes instead of stealth things like this which only cements the image they are panicking.

I play videogames to escape this ****. Trusting the indies to do anything was obviously a big mistake, and I'll take extra special care I never do it again.

Back to not paying for my videogames.

[Windies]

Wow that really is sad, Only 1 user browsing the forums . Seriously though, It looks like they are really having trouble keeping numbers and are trying very very hard to hide it.

[Battlefinger]

AlexWildeagle, on 18 November 2012 - 08:46 AM, said:

Really don't care! All this crying and whining, get over it! Plain and simple, if you don't like it don't use it. That simple. I don't see a real use for it but I'm not a developer.

People are frustrated because 3rd person in the previous mech games has been very detrimental to the game. It allows you to see enemies around corners, over hills and such, while never having to expose yourself. Being able to see things that anyone in first person couldn't see. It breaks immersion a lot, and it gives unfair tactical advantages to those using 3rd person. That's why we are so worried, Mechwarrior 4's online was destroyed by the third person camera, and we are somewhat terrified that Mechwarrior Online will repeat the same mistake.

[Windies]

Battlefinger, on 18 November 2012 - 09:10 AM, said:

People are frustrated because 3rd person in the previous mech games has been very detrimental to the game. It allows you to see enemies around corners, over hills and such, while never having to expose yourself. Being able to see things that anyone in first person couldn't see. It breaks immersion a lot, and it gives unfair tactical advantages to those using 3rd person. That's why we are so worried, Mechwarrior 4's online was destroyed by the third person camera, and we are somewhat terrified that Mechwarrior Online will repeat the same mistake.

Hate to be a facetious ******* but there's a lot more than 3rd person view gonna destroy MW:O, if the developers don't wake up.

[Gorith]

Sure 3rd person is ok were playing as mechwarriors right? when in 3rd person it should show the back of your shoulders and head just another way to admire the cockpit art more .

being serious keep that 3rd person garbage out of the game please.

[SilentSooYun]

It would be nice to have some way to see my Mech in-game, but only if they can do it in such a way as to not give someone in 3rd-Person a tactical advantage. Maybe if it locks the view behind the shoulders if you're moving? Maybe it turns off the HUD in 3rd-Person? Maybe it has a very restricted range out from the Mech?

Personally, I'd rather they spend the money and Dev cycles on making us a simple rear-view mirror.

[p00k]

SilentSooYun, on 18 November 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

It would be nice to have some way to see my Mech in-game, but only if they can do it in such a way as to not give someone in 3rd-Person a tactical advantage. Maybe if it locks the view behind the shoulders if you're moving? Maybe it turns off the HUD in 3rd-Person? Maybe it has a very restricted range out from the Mech? Personally, I'd rather they spend the money and Dev cycles on making us a simple rear-view mirror.

you wouldn't play the game in 3rd person; first person still gives you a better idea of what you can and can't shoot

you simply switch to 3rd person for a second to peek around corners and over ridges to see what may be hiding on the other side, without actually having to expose yourself to enemy fire. you switch to it to find out where the enemies are, which way they're facing, what mechs are in what position, then you switch back

[Curator]

NO
A Big NO.
Absolutly NO.

Edited by Curator, 18 November 2012 - 10:59 AM.

[Gorith]

p00k, on 18 November 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

you simply switch to 3rd person for a second to peek around corners and over ridges to see what may be hiding on the other side, without actually having to expose yourself to enemy fire. you switch to it to find out where the enemies are, which way they're facing, what mechs are in what position, then you switch back

And thats EXACTLY why most of the playerbase does not want 3rd person

[DrBunji]

Gorith, on 18 November 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

And thats EXACTLY why most of the playerbase does not want 3rd person

Pretty sure he knew that, and was just explaining it to someone who hadn't realized how game breaking it would be

[Gorith]

DrBunji, on 18 November 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

Pretty sure he knew that, and was just explaining it to someone who hadn't realized how game breaking it would be

Likely. I have a hard time with sarcasm on the net. That and I'm mostly a dry serious person anyway.

[Weiland]

I'll add my opinion, though I doubt it's necessary at this point.

No.

Not at all.

Not ever.

[DrBunji]

Gorith, on 18 November 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

Likely. I have a hard time with sarcasm on the net. That and I'm mostly a dry serious person anyway.

Its cool I'm sure we can milk some bumps out of this derailment, so that more people can see the poll and keep feeding the massive no majority.

[Weiland]

DrBunji, on 18 November 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

Its cool I'm sure we can milk some bumps out of this derailment, so that more people can see the poll and keep feeding the massive no majority.

Biggest turnout in a poll I've seen to date and the most numbers on a single vote among those polls I've seen. The question is, however, whether or not PGI will continue to blindly and ineffectively cater to the bottom rung of the playerbase (the one that's barely there and lodged underneath the mud) while ignoring what's good for the game.

[masohiro]

D'aww. I've been keeping an eye on this game (can't play it yet tho), but it's gonna lose major brownie points in my book if it allows everyone to switch to a 3rd person camera view whenever they want.

However, I don't think it PGI are necessarily blind to the large playerbase who prefer the "sim-like" first person only mechanic. I'm sure it'd be possible to please both sides, tho. For instance, how about eventually implementing different matchmaking playlists? Having a sort of "beginner" playlist with 3rd person enabled, and then regular or "hardcore" playlists which are strictly 1st person. I think that'd be a fair compromise.

[Discordantone]

How about this. Give your new players a 'training area' so that they can do some training of actual educational value, instead of destroying the game that, according to you guys, we paid for, yeah? You can stick 3rd person in there all you like.

Also, according to TamperD, there are 43 people viewing this thread, not 1, which is what the thread claims until you rip apart the script for the 'user count' frame. If you're going to hide things, get it right. This isn't 1984 (Orwell Reference for the less-than-well-read), and we know that we aren't alone in this.

Edited by Discordantone, 18 November 2012 - 01:30 PM.