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#3621 Zeus X

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 02:26 PM

View Postvon Pilsner, on 01 January 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:


Not all leagues were FFP, the SA of 3pv is greater than 1pv. I stand by my statement.


1st or 3rd person had nothing to do with leagues, it was something we locked down in the server console of MW4.

And who ever attacked our territory had to follow the rules of our servers, just like we had to follow the rules of others if we attacked.

DCM's servers was no 3rd person, and if you didn't like it, and didn't want to fight by those rules, you lost.

I can see how 3rd person helps with situational awareness, but I have no problem using 1st person and having situational awareness, it's easy to use your own ears and eye's.

Hey look, I'm being shot in the back, and the red alert bar flashing on the bottom is letting me know.

Hey listen, I hear foot stomps , and my headset is letting me know this.

It's not hard to have situational awareness, just use your own sense's.

In my opinion, 3rd person is nothing but the lazy way to play a game.

Edited by DCM Zeus, 01 January 2013 - 02:34 PM.


#3622 Cik

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 03:09 PM

nah. not needed. work on anything else, even something very trivial and it will be less wasted. will ruin the game competitively tbh. if third person exists, everyone must use it or they will lose by default.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 03:46 PM

3rd person sounds be good for me. its easier to target fast mechs that be circle you with ecm. and you can see who is on your *** :D

Edited by Even Dark, 14 January 2013 - 03:47 PM.


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Posted 19 January 2013 - 08:27 PM

I picked up this game a week ago, and I loved it because it reminded me of my childhood watching my dad play the old mechwarrior games and watching him in the cockpit was my main attraction. First person view adds so much more to the game. As I grew older and tried to find other mech games to replace it, like Armored Core, I was disappointed. Because of the third person view. Why would I stay first person when I could go third person and see around me, see mechs or lasers behind me. I was no longer piloting a mech. I was controlling an RC car with legs.

If that is what you want with this game, then I will drop it in a heartbeat. I'm here because I feel like I'm piloting a mech, because everyone else is on the same playing field, and I don't feel like I'm putting myself at any disadvantage with an easily toggable option. I've already spent thirty bucks, but I won't spend a cent more if this is the future I have to deal with. Sure, I don't have to enable third person. I don't have to accept that others will be using it, but the reality is this adds an edge. If I'm trying to approach a mech and get a few shots off before he or she sees me, well I better hope his widened peripherals don't catch me as he or she is twisting left and right. What if I want to circle around an Atlas in my raven or spider and want to juke him or her out. In first person mode, its harder for them to keep track of you. Third person? Pah! Forget it, they can easily see where I'm coming from.

TL;DR No third person please.

#3625 King Arthur IV

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:07 PM

~5000 votes polli of pollies!

poll master tel me how to get these numbers please?!?! im tryn to get the same figures for keeping paint

http://mwomercs.com/...ew-polls-added/

#3626 GalaxyBluestar

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:10 PM

View PostKing Arthur IV, on 19 January 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

~5000 votes polli of pollies!

poll master tel me how to get these numbers please?!?! im tryn to get the same figures for keeping paint

http://mwomercs.com/...ew-polls-added/


it's more controversal than paint. the only reason i would say no is the overseeing advantage around corners etc etc. other than that i don't care i just wouldn't use it. it's silly in a sim anyways. even though mw2-3-4 had it.

Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 19 January 2013 - 09:10 PM.


#3627 King Arthur IV

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:33 PM

View PostGalaxyBluestar, on 19 January 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:


it's more controversal than paint. the only reason i would say no is the overseeing advantage around corners etc etc. other than that i don't care i just wouldn't use it. it's silly in a sim anyways. even though mw2-3-4 had it.

yeh i voted no aswell. currently there is enough trench war fair in mwo, having 3rd person would only increase that effect. unless there is some sort of weird angle/ camera program that doesnt give too much advantage.

#3628 Team Leader

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:34 PM

Oh my gosh. This thread is such a zombie my brain is dying from reading it

#3629 Percimes

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:36 PM

It must have been said in one of the 85 pages but it's tl:dr...

As far as I'm concerned it would be nice to have a 3rd person only for the purpose of taking screenshots of my mech on the field. It would make the paint job a little more worth the C-bills I paid for.

#3630 Rejarial Galatan

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:39 PM

View PostPercimes, on 19 January 2013 - 09:36 PM, said:

It must have been said in one of the 85 pages but it's tl:dr...

As far as I'm concerned it would be nice to have a 3rd person only for the purpose of taking screenshots of my mech on the field. It would make the paint job a little more worth the C-bills I paid for.

to be brutally honest, take screenies in the mech lab and keep third person OUT of the game in and of itself. there is no way to add it in with out breaking the game fundamentally and altering it fundamentally.

#3631 anonymous175

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:46 PM

I remember this.

#3632 Percimes

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:48 PM

Bah! EverQuest had a 3rd person view but it was so bad it made little sense using it for anything but screenshots. If you have no interface to aim or lock missiles, if you have no control over you mech while "outside" and the leash on the camera is too short to spy around city blocks it wouldn't alter the gameplay in any significant way.

But there is no screenshot function in the game at the moment anyway, so the point is moot.

#3633 Deamhan

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:56 PM

Out of 4662 votes, 90% say no. If there is ever a poll for them to pay attention to, it is this one.

#3634 Toong

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:59 PM

Gosh this is old news. About a week after this poll was started they made some stickied announcement somewhere that they were only considering it and weren't married to the idea, and I got the whole impression that they scrapped the third person camera when over 4,000 people said they didn't want it. Why did we bring this up again?

#3635 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:21 PM

View PostToong, on 19 January 2013 - 09:59 PM, said:

Gosh this is old news. About a week after this poll was started they made some stickied announcement somewhere that they were only considering it and weren't married to the idea, and I got the whole impression that they scrapped the third person camera when over 4,000 people said they didn't want it. Why did we bring this up again?



The good news is, I haven't heard a single word about anything 3rd person since. I think the forum majority won this battle and killed off that virus before it could kill any competitive scene. I still have horrible memories of what third person hill humers/poptarts did to MW4. *shudder* *shudder*

#3636 Rejarial Galatan

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:04 PM

We bring this up, as we will continue to beat this drum until the end of time to make absolutely certain it does not happen and that they are listening to us

#3637 Stalkermom

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:53 PM

I for one think they should have third person views, on battlearmor groups. That's right, if a clan player can control of five elementals a game. To have them change formation in a key stroke. To have them accurately jump onto a IS mech below them from the top of a building. To have them with a sight advantage that compensates for the lack of speed mobility without a friendly mech to ride.
Will we get battlearmor groups for clans, it would be awesome and it would fit 5 clan mechs vs 8 IS mechs? No it won’t happen. Will PGI do third person mechs? I hope not, but that just me voting no for mechs to do so. What about the Command console equipment? Nope, not even cool for that.

#3638 Thirdstar

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:55 PM

Alright, who necroed this thread?

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:06 PM

View PostDeamhan, on 19 January 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

Out of 4662 votes, 90% say no. If there is ever a poll for them to pay attention to, it is this one.


People who vote no don't understand why the game needs it.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:11 PM

View PostLethalRose, on 20 January 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:


People who vote no don't understand why the game needs it.


If you're argument is that ONLY an enlightened few understand the need for 3rd Person then that's a terrible argument. Oh great, now I'm helping the bloody necro.





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