225 replies to this topic

[Hollister]

m0nk33, on 26 April 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

I look at the Raven redesign and think it looks like a hunter. Aggressive looking, predatory, stealthy ,kinda like a Velociraptor, only missing the scythe-like claws on its feet. Beware any who should come across a pack of these all alone .

You need to stop watching so many movies. The Velociraptor in jurrasic park that we all know. Is a fake. The real Velociraptor Mongoliensis, i think i spelt that right. Which is the same type that is said to be in the movies and the novels we all know. Is actually about 2 and half feet tall, 5 feet long, and has feathers.

Also, put a longer beak on it. All the easyer to shoot your face off when i go hunting with a LBX

Edited by Hollister, 26 April 2012 - 10:50 AM.

[Vexgrave Lars]

I loves it.. my precious.. yes.. loves it.

Edited by Vexgrave Lars, 26 April 2012 - 12:44 PM.

[fatcat01]

I really like the redesign and I can't understand people that are complaining about the look. The 'beak' of this design is alot closer to an actual raven than the old model. A more sloped nose would put it closer to a falcon or eagle.

[SirDenOfYork]

Adridos, on 26 April 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

And getting shut down immediately because you pushed teh wrong button because they are all in different language.

Thats alright,would still love to TRY....

[Cochise]

Doesn't really look like a Raven... and I'm not sure why they went the route they did... but I still like it.

I will say this though; some mechs are supposed to be curvy and if they just decide to make them all blocky, like this interpretation of the Raven, then I really say Booooo and thumbs down to that.

Kinda like making a model of a Ferrari look like a Humvee and calling it a Ferrari. Nope.

[Major Tom]

I just noticed something I do not like about the new Raven.
Unlike all other FD designs thus far, the Raven has LAZOR barrels. All other mechs thus far have lenses, not barrel (for example the Jenner which also mounts dual md lasers on its arms). I am a little surprised to see FD elected to leave this archaism but design a new nose.

[Aelos03]

Technoviking, on 26 April 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

too me this i real raven thats a model i feel in love when i saw it not this new one that only reminds me on raven. i will always chose this one over new one, but it cant be helped i will have to drive it.

[Outlaw2]

The new design looks weird...for a raven. Its a nice design on its own....but Im just not sure the raven really needed this much of a makeover.
The raven is one of the nicer looking BT designs. The curved nose is iconic for the raven. Its like having an atlas without the skull face.
This is the first concept art I think is really off.

Edited by =Outlaw=, 26 April 2012 - 11:17 AM.

[Orzorn]

I personally think its great. I understand the wish for curves, but I really don't mind the more angular design. It looks like a stealth fighter, and absolutely looks like the futuristic mech it was at the time of its creation.

Major Tom, on 26 April 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

I just noticed something I do not like about the new Raven.
Unlike all other FD designs thus far, the Raven has LAZOR barrels. All other mechs thus far have lenses, not barrel (for example the Jenner which also mounts dual md lasers on its arms). I am a little surprised to see FD elected to leave this archaism but design a new nose.

If you actually look at the end of the "barrels" you can see the lense glare. The entire "barrel" would actually be the laser assembly.

[Tremor]

I like everything but the nose. The very tip looks goofy. I would prefer something along the lines of Technoviking's post.

[Tvae]

I definitely like the new design, very sleek and military looking. Really fits in with the other designs so far.

That said... I'm really gonna miss the beaky looking design of the old raven. They're both great, though.

[William Petersen]

Major Tom, on 26 April 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

Unlike all other FD designs thus far, the Raven has LAZOR barrels. All other mechs thus far have lenses, not barrel (for example the Jenner which also mounts dual md lasers on its arms). I am a little surprised to see FD elected to leave this archaism but design a new nose.

Actually, the HBK has a small barrel-like construction for the laser pods on the arms, and the Catapult has these big, bulky protruding boxes on its sides for the torso-mounted MLas. The Dragon also has an elongated box housing its arm-mounted laser, as does the commando.

Maybe he gave them barrels because it just didn't look right without them? /shrugs



Anyway, I totally dig the angular chassis. I really didn't much care for the previous incarnations of the Raven, but now it looks like the front of a fighter jet fuselage mounted on some legs (in before LAMS).

[Hayashi]

TBH I didn't like it too much... realistic or otherwise, I loved my old curved-beak Raven.

That said, can't really pass any sort of final opinion on it till we see it ingame - lighting, environments, weapons fire and all that jazz do make significant changes to how a 'Mech really ends up looking.

BETA PLOX.

[Thornn]

I LOVE IT.

[Monky]

I voted no, but because of one simple, easily changed detail - the nose.

http://fakemonky.dev...-tool-298444487

(mspaint job, be forewarned)

That little area is critical to the identity of the mech as it is the 'Ravens Beak'. the underslung 'jaw' and button 'nose' on FD's redesign are canine. Now, if they want to rename it the Greyhound or Fox, I'm perfectly fine with that, but I don't honestly see that happening. Just fix up the nose a bit and it's good to go.

(for comparison http://mwomercs.com/...3-raven-concept )

If you want to maintain the 'sensor pod' look that the nose gives, just put a similar construction on the top rear of the torso in that big flat area, or undersling it under the nose near the hip actuators. Simple as pie and still in the center torso.

[Oswin Aurelius]

At first glance, I didn't like it. But I think that was because I was hoping for open beta instead of a celebrity 'mech.

Upon closer inspection, totally don't mind it too much. I like that someone finally changed up the design of the Raven, because let's face it, it hasn't changed at all since it came out.

[verybad]

Motionless, on 26 April 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

For a number of the people who 'don't like' the design, it's not about not liking the design in and of itself, it's about the fact that the mech is suppose to be a Raven and the design departs from part of what they liked about the Raven (and to an extent also the raven-inspired Men Shen and its large curves, although that wont be around for quite a while.)

I suspect they removed the raven's curves and they're only going to stay true to curves on clan mechs.

I think there are a number of people in the community that will ***** about any changes in anything from the original design in the Capellan Confederation Handbook (3028). They don't even need to have liked the original design, they're just whining complainers about any changes at all. The design is simply better artwork than the original, it looks more stealthy, it looks more military, and looks functional as well as cool.

The people complaining that it "doesn't look like a Raven" are the same that would complain about getting a $20 dollar bill when you owed them $19.00.

Edited by verybad, 26 April 2012 - 11:58 AM.

[JadeTimberwolf]

To be honest, no but then I have never liked the Raven to begin with, it is a poor mech in my opinion, and as someone pointed out the design isn't that much different then the old design.

[Sheewa]

Old concept

Spoiler

new concept

Spoiler

[infinite xaer0]

verybad, on 26 April 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

I think there are a number of people in the community that will ***** about any changes in anything from the original design in the Capellan Confederation Handbook (3028). They don't even need to have liked the original design, they're just whining complainers about any changes at all. The design is simply better artwork than the original, it looks more stealthy, it looks more military, and looks functional as well as cool.

The people complaining that it "doesn't look like a Raven" are the same that would complain about getting a $20 dollar bill when you owed them $19.00.

nah, i think ppl are just assuming that certain things wouldn't change.. ironically tho, the CT of the raven now actually looks MORE like a the head of a real raven, than the OG art did.. i mean, in terms of geometry.. tho granted, there's no beak point, but why does that really matter?