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[Taryys]

Actually it does matter. If it was only 1 in 12 or 1 in 20 games that is huge difference, especially since people tend to equate getting their ***-handed to them with premade when that is not necessarily true.

The true stats make a difference in clearing up the truth that there is no boogey man and people do not like loosing, and needs something to blame, so premades get it. We are a popular scapegoat since we do not have the numbers.

Vassago Rain, on 15 November 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

It doesn't really matter what the actual percentages were. All that does matter is, it was happening way too frequently, and led to a very sour and divided community.

[Teralitha]

Vassago Rain, on 15 November 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

It doesn't really matter what the actual percentages were. All that does matter is, it was happening way too frequently, and led to a very sour and divided community.

No, it wasnt happening too frequently. What was REALLY happening was one team played really dumb, and the other played really smart, and dominated the dumby team. And the dumby team assumed they lost to a premade. Most premade accusations were ASSUMED. No one wants to admit getting butt ***** by another random team, they prefer to blame it on premades.

[Taryys]

I beat ya to it!

Teralitha, on 15 November 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

No, it wasnt happening too frequently. What was REALLY happening was one team played really dumb, and the other played really smart, and dominated the dumby team. And the dumby team assumed they lost to a premade. Most premade accusations were ASSUMED. No one wants to admit getting butt ***** by another random team, they prefer to blame it on premades.

[RedHairDave]

Vassago Rain, on 15 November 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

It doesn't really matter what the actual percentages were. All that does matter is, it was happening way too frequently, and led to a very sour and divided community.

it very likely wasnt happening frequently, it really was all in the pugger head. no one is willing to accept that they just failed, its always someone elses fault

[Teralitha]

Taryys, on 15 November 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

I beat ya to it!

I lost... it could only be a premade that beat me

[Taryys]

/thread

Teralitha, on 15 November 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

I lost... it could only be a premade that beat me

[Dimento Graven]

Vermaxx, on 15 November 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:

Garth also said that true DHS let him kill an atlas in 3 seconds. Presumably using weapons with about a 3 second recycle time.

Meaning he was able to (at ABSOLUTE LONGEST) two shot an Atlas in a Jenner. So far I haven't heard anyone come here and report having replicated that.

I'm sorry but, Garth, VIDEO or it didn't happen.

At least tell us the build out you supposedly used to get this uber 3 second, FULL ARMOR - NO ARMOR - DEATH, solo on a moving Atlas that was fighting back?

Or did you tell your employee to sit still, let you fire PPC's into his back or else you'd fire him?

[Lorcan Lladd]

RedHairDave, on 15 November 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

it very likely wasnt happening frequently, it really was all in the pugger head. no one is willing to accept that they just failed, its always someone elses fault

It's everyone else's fault, actually.
But it would appear too conceited to lay all blame on noncommunicating and uncooperative team mates as opposed to premades and pugs on voice channels.

I don't care about appearances, however, and as such I feel perfectly comfortable in claiming that scrubs, Rambos, AFKs, disconnects and sucide farmers are ruining my matches to no fault of my own.

Edited by Lorcan Lladd, 15 November 2012 - 02:22 PM.

[Darian DelFord]

I tell ya Vampires exist, I saw this show Supernatural once!!!!

I think PGI posting the data will really help out here, and I do not see the harm in it, other than finally showing all the PUGG'ers that the Vampires are not as plentiful as they had hoped.

[Taryys]

Supernatural is the BOMB!
I Luvs it!!

Darian DelFord, on 15 November 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

I tell ya Vampires exist, I saw this show Supernatural once!!!!

I think PGI posting the data will really help out here, and I do not see the harm in it, other than finally showing all the PUGG'ers that the Vampires are not as plentiful as they had hoped.

[Sandpit]

I figured it out!

Darian is a hunter and Taryys is a premie thread poster! That's why he always beats me to posts!!!! lol

[Taryys]

My lawyer and the****** told me that I need to answer "I can neither confirm nor deny that statement."

Sandpit, on 15 November 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

I figured it out!

Darian is a hunter and Taryys is a premie thread poster! That's why he always beats me to posts!!!! lol

[Sandpit]

Premie posters always stomping my posts by a good 5 minutes

I blame MTV, Pepsi, and high unemployment

[Taryys]

Seriosuly!!

ther*apist is sensored?

[Chemie]

Taryys, on 15 November 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

Seriosuly!!

ther*apist is sensored?

no but the-rap*ist is (as in The R.....)

[Vassago Rain]

Taryys, on 15 November 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

Actually it does matter. If it was only 1 in 12 or 1 in 20 games that is huge difference, especially since people tend to equate getting their ***-handed to them with premade when that is not necessarily true.

The true stats make a difference in clearing up the truth that there is no boogey man and people do not like loosing, and needs something to blame, so premades get it. We are a popular scapegoat since we do not have the numbers.

Not really.
It was happening so often, it split the community. Does it matter if it was 90% or 9%? No, not at all. Even if it was all in peoples' heads, it still split the place.

That's not a good thing, and they should have fixed it months ago, not right as we got into open beta.

[Taryys]

You are assuming it was happening when in fact the stats show that it was not.

Vassago Rain, on 15 November 2012 - 03:03 PM, said:

Not really.
It was happening so often, it split the community. Does it matter if it was 90% or 9%? No, not at all. Even if it was all in peoples' heads, it still split the place.

That's not a good thing, and they should have fixed it months ago, not right as we got into open beta.

[endeceive]

Maybe we should have little "team" tags on the players list so the players can see for themselves that they aren't being stomped by a premade

[zverofaust]

The most ironic thing is PGI could've pretty much settled the issue -- or at least removed ALL of the guesswork -- by simply implementing a tiny little graphical change that showed which players on each team were in a group on the Player List screen.

Bam. No more guessing how often it happens. It'd be right there.

But I guess PGI's too busy removing important information like this from the game to hide their own shortcomings.

[Sandpit]

zverofaust, on 15 November 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

The most ironic thing is PGI could've pretty much settled the issue -- or at least removed ALL of the guesswork -- by simply implementing a tiny little graphical change that showed which players on each team were in a group on the Player List screen.

Bam. No more guessing how often it happens. It'd be right there.

But I guess PGI's too busy removing important information like this from the game to hide their own shortcomings.

They did solve this by testing it and posting the results. Garth gave you the information you're talking about. 20 drops 0 premies.
Most people arguing against premies just ignored it or called him a liar outright.
Just because I assume the other side is a premie doesn't make it a premie. Just because I got beat bad doesn't mean the other side was a premie. You were shown it to be nowhere near as rampant as everyone wanted to think it was you just choose to ignore it.