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[Like a Sir]

FupDup, on 08 February 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Right now I'm not going to post against or in favor of 3PV. However, I do feel compelled to point out that Hawken is a first-person perspective game just like MWO, so telling somebody who likes 3PV to play Hawken to experience 3PV is like telling somebody to go to the Superbowl if they like hockey.

Good point, even hawken doesn't really stoop that low. You only get your 3rd perspective moments, the repair bot comes to mind...

Thank you for correcting me.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Hawken also has the FPV but there are since the Great Mechspiel with 3PV MMO as "Reign of Thunder" by Mechassault creators ... oh ... they have suspended any further development of their Mechgame and focus on console games, the should some (not all) of 3PV Weiner also because MWO exceeds probably obvious their skills

not in vain in the BF3 Serrver called enabled 3PV as Noob server

translated with Google from german

Hawken hat ebenfalls die FPV aber es gibt ja da das Tolle Mechspiel mit 3PV als MMO "Reign of Thunder" von den Mechassault Erstellern...ach ...die haben jede weitere Entwicklung ihres Mech Spiel eingestellt und konzentrieren sich auf Konsolengames, das sollten einige (nicht alle) der 3PV Weiner auch,denn MWO übersteigt wohl offensichtlich ihre Fähigkeiten

nicht umsonst werden bei BF3 die Serrver mit aktiviertem 3PV auch als Noob-Server bezeichnet

Edited by CSJ Ranger, 09 February 2013 - 03:12 AM.

[Mao of DC]

TheBuxDLux, on 16 November 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

Uhm how about 3rd person after you die?

The trouble with that is what is to stop you, or your teammates, giveing the person you are following info they wouldnt normally have. "Hey look to your right!" or "There is someone around that corner!" That is why the Devs didnt want 3rd person in the frist place so that everyone has the same level of visual info.

Edited by Mao of DC, 09 February 2013 - 03:22 AM.

[Peter von Danzig]

Like a Sir, on 08 February 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

SInce somehow this is very hard to understand, and nobody can be bothered to read even the fist ten pages of this.

Here is a quote from another player.

This!

I really don't care about 3pv as long as you won't have any benefits from it.

[Anony Mouse]

I could stomach 3rd person as an option under certain conditions. Like no 3rd person in ranked matches, No switching mid game, No HUD of any kind or alternate views (thermal/night/magscan) in 3rd person on the basis that you're effectively astral-projecting outside of your mech, and all these tools (HUD,radar, etc etc) are on the inside.

Edited by Anony Mouse, 09 February 2013 - 04:15 AM.

[Red Klown X]

Mr Sarcasm told me this :

" Yes i agree with the 3rd view , it s a great improvement . First we will have toons of player coming from other fps like COD and clone . And it s not an advantage , i swear that i will not abuse of it . I take this opportunity to ask about more good option like : an aimbot cuz i'm lazy to click and aim with my mouse . I also want be able to create a path from the map view , so i dont have to use my controls to move my mech . And if you dont mind , an auto-resolve game so i can make toons of game by day and feel like a billionaire at the end of the day and earn my xp through i m playing COD . "

But let's wait and see ...

Edited by klownnection, 09 February 2013 - 04:32 AM.

[WM Doddster Vajda]

3rd person to spectate only, not play in game!!!

[Ravill]

The game would change drastically if 3rd person were allowed on an individual or even spectator level. Whether or not this is preferable varies from person to person here. I personally think that unless 3rd person was a major goal of the devs from the onset of this game then it shouldn't be considered for development now because there's still much to do yet.

[Johnny Human]

Goodstorm, on 07 February 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

So third person I warrant it might work well as a component like a drone or something that can be disabled if shot mabye make it something that can peak around corners or something. That is only if it doesn't corrupt what the devs vision of the game. although it's great the the game is true to mech warriors it might be interesting for something new and intriguing. but getting to the point. I think the third person should have logic behind it such as a drone so as not to take away from the game. also mabye a camera mounted some where on the mech. at any rate I think it should be able to be messed with shot interrupted so that it doesn't become the main view used since it really takes away from the experience. This is coming from some one who used to use third person religiously in other mech warriors simulators.

I had made a similar suggestion in another post a long time ago. I do not like the idea of incorporating a third person POV into this game, but if the devs feel they just absolutely have to offer it as a possibility, then make it so that it requires you actually buy a "camera" add-on component or something which forces you to give up tonnage, which forces you to use slots on your torso, and which has the possibility of being destroyed. The only way to reasonably think about implementing this would be to make it a mechanic which requires other tangible tradeoffs in constructing your mech, like everything else does.

[Gremlich Johns]

Tincan Nightmare, on 05 February 2013 - 03:19 PM, said:

I don't know how they could implement 3PV without it affecting other players. I understand that some players want this option, but if it ends up giving them an advantage it then pushes everyone to use it. ................ If 3rd person gives you better ability to see, find targets, and manuever then soon everyone will be forced to use it.

You do not understand, it will not force people to use it because they, the ones that prefer FFP, would rather NOT play 3PV. I never did. I stayed out of Mektek servers BECAUSE I could not bring myself to play mario cart. Not every game need be 3PV, either, in fact, any that are are just graphically different versions of each other. The MW games should stand out. Mechassault, as 3PV only, was also a game I avoided because it was console/arcade designed to bring in other than hard-core BT fans. It takes less skill to play 3PV. Just like piloting spalatpults and trollmandos.

I don't agree with mix-tech either (meaning IS-tech on Clan and Clan-tech on IS). When it reaches that point, the game ceases to be mechwarrior and more just another mecha game with no relation to its origins.

Read CyBerKut's post at the bottom of page 87. I echo his POV on 3PV -- "Leave it out, or give the 3PV folks their own servers."

^^This I would have no issues with.

[0X2A]

Separating game mode ques would be the optimal way to implement 3rd person.

=>TDM 1st person /TDM 3rd person
=>Conquest 1st person/ Conquest 3rd person
=>Etc.

Comp games could utilize different rules for different types of play.

I don't understand what all the whining is about.

/my2cents

[NocturnalBeast]

Just make a separate "Training Wheels" game mode that has 3rd person view and respawns, but do not put either of these features in any other game mode in any way shape or form. 3rd person would even be bad for spectators, because if the spectators are on comms, they could relay enemy positions to team mates using 3rd person which would give an unfair advantage.

[Draco Harkins]

This still going? Just let it die already.

[0X2A]

Edward Steiner, on 09 February 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

3rd person would even be bad for spectators, because if the spectators are on comms, they could relay enemy positions to team mates using 3rd person which would give an unfair advantage.

^I agree to this^ But I still say that 3rd person view could be implemented without breaking the game, so long as 1st person users and 3rd are separated. 3rd person spectating however would be detrimental to the game.

[ZealotTheFallen]

I trully feel bad for all that want to ruin this game 3rd person view in any form just breaks it I call it cheating because spectators will just tell their team where the enemy is period no more tactics no ambush not even a challenge. game over for many oldtimers if they add it. Sad how whinning is perfered method for players that seem to not have the brainpower or ability to play without as mentioned above trainning wheels.

[Werewolf486 ScorpS]

I agree with Z! Wait, what, did I just, oh no, I did. I agreed with Z!

3rd person is a tard way to play any MW game. It should not be allowed, and I've had friends who refuse to play MW games because they can't use 3rd person, told them not to play then. 3rd person should not be allowed in any MW game, it's like having a battlefield camera, it's wrong, it's stupid, and it will ruin the game for true players!

[0X2A]

ZealotTheFallen, on 09 February 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

I trully feel bad for all that want to ruin this game 3rd person view in any form just breaks it I call it cheating because spectators will just tell their team where the enemy is period no more tactics no ambush not even a challenge. game over for many oldtimers if they add it. Sad how whinning is perfered method for players that seem to not have the brainpower or ability to play without as mentioned above trainning wheels.

What would ruin the game if you SEPERATED 1st and 3rd person players?

Some people enjoy 3rd person. OMFG!!! Hate to say they did something right, but COD had their 3rd person "tactical (lol right... tactical)" game mode. Most of the people who oppose 3rd person gameplay in MW:O seem to be extremely narrow minded about how it could be implemented. Obviously mixing 1st and 3rd person players would give the 3rd person FOV players an undisputed advantage in-game, and if PGI impliments it this way I would be more than disappointed in their choice.

IMHO: 3rd person would be a neat addition to the game, but its implementation would have to be done in a way which 1st person players and 3rd person players wouldn't be matched together.

[ZealotTheFallen]

This is a community game, team sport one universe for all to defend and conquer seperating population just destroys what this game is suppose to be. Many here played the original MPBT multiplayerbattletech which was community warfare house against house take planets to support the next invasion. Seperating the mech pilots destroys it all. ONE Community, One Universe to fight over period. If any of you can't except how the Original Game was made and designed, then please GO away play something else leave us alone Please stop trying to ruin a game that many grew up with for almost twenty years.

Edited by ZealotTheFallen, 09 February 2013 - 11:44 PM.

[xMEPHISTOx]

Draco Harkins, on 09 February 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

This still going? Just let it die already.

Indeed...let it die, its a fail idea for those who wish for more ez mode then we already have...let it die...!

[0X2A]

accept*

ZealotTheFallen, on 09 February 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

If any of you can't except how the Original Game was made designed then please GO away play something else

I assume that English isn't your first language, so sorry. It simply bothered me. :/

Could you please explain to me how it could possibly "divide" the community into two distinct sides? I mean I would have not trouble playing in either 1st or 3rd person. It comes down to personal preference. Maybe some people would prefer playing in the 3rd person? (Albeit separate from 1st person players)