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[Halfmead]

If 3rd person view means no HUD, since you're not in the cockpit!...no problems, otherwise bad idea.

[Doden Kriger]

If they add 3rd person simply make it like say Planetside 2 you have the view but no hud as stated above. Also people using the past MW games having 3rd person with HUD. It never was really game breaking till MW4 Since MW4 was the first to use elevation changes and rolling hills. MW before that was mostly just Flat open land

Edited by Deathcarlyle, 09 February 2013 - 04:09 PM.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Coolant, on 07 February 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

I haven't read every response, but in glancing over it many times since the thread (and the other) began, I have yet to hear a response to why there weren't more 1st Person only servers in the previous title. If the 5000 or however many players that voted for 1st Person played MW4: Mercs then explain why 3rd Person dominated the servers? Either you didn't play Mercs, or you played 3rd Person. If you didn't play Mercs than you ignored a decade of Mechwarrior and are not a loyal fan, and chose to skip a generation of Mechwarrior, then jump on the bandwagon and come back to MWO demanding the game have the POV that you want. I'm not even sure you should have the right to voice your opinion when you didn't support multiplayer in the previous title or at the very least your voice should be weighed with less impact. In it's long history, and I played up until about 2 years ago regularly, I never remember 1st Person only servers in MW4:Mercs being the majority...ever. And, it was just as easy to run a 1st Person only server as it was a 3rd Person server. It was a simple checkbox. If most of you that are so adamant and vocal for 1st Person only did in fact play Mercs, then the fact that 3rd Person was overwhelmingly more popular gives support to the notion that there is a large population of Mechwarriors out there that don't agree with you and PGI can cater to. A large portion that PGI should want to tap in to for obvious financial reasons. Sorry if you don't want to hear it, but the demographics of a title that is the predecessor of this game, not generations removed - the previous title - shows there is a majority of players that would rather play 3rd Person.

Hi Coolant

allmost League Server (EBTL/MBO all) No unlimited Ammo/NO UnlimitedHeat /No 3PV=adult Player..Strategic tactical Play, no HEtler and Na&is Names of the servers

free Servers ...unlimited Ammo/unlimited Heat/3PV =Noobs,skillless brainless People and Kiddies ...Nothing Fun to Play,all like a "Kindergarten"

with the Mass casuals and 3PV come all this to MWO ,and probably the chaters,the Aimboters, the Glitcher ,seeing BF3

Edited by CSJ Ranger, 10 February 2013 - 01:57 AM.

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Se7enUpMustang, on 08 February 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

I see a lot of

1."It's a sim game 3rd person would ruin it"
2."If you put it in, just do it for a training mission"
3."It will split the player base which is bad"
4."There are no camera shaking effects from gettting hit by fire in 3rd person"
5."I'm 100% against it because I don't like it"
6."I don't want to use it so no one else should be able to even if they want to"

1. Though classically Mech Warrior games are "sim" games how would adding another camera option to a game that features enormous mechs firing lazers and flying around make the game any less "Realistic"? I imagine that in order for something to be judged realistic or not it has to actually EXIST first.

2. While at first it sounds like a good idea its not, if a new player were to play the training mission with the 3rd person camera only they would become used to it and when they would play normal matches where they are forced to use 1st person only they would still have the same problems they are having now.

3. This is just from my expeirences with MW games- When I first started playing MW Mercs I used a combination of 1st and 3rd person view, While I was running around I would use the 3rd person camera because I wanted to watch my mech but as soon as I saw an enemy or was hit by enemy fire I switched to 1st person because locating, aiming, and shooting at an enemy is easier in 1st person mode. As i got better and better at the game this didn't change, I love watching Mechs walk, run, fly and take damage, it's the spectacle of the game that I enjoy. Not having a 3rd person camera on MWO really cuts down the fun for me, especially with how far graphic's have come since the days of MW Mercs. I want to see the armor get blasted away by missles and Gauss cannons, I want to see the armor melt when it gets hit by a lazers I want to see the various bits and pieces of my mech get torn off my all manners of violence, that's the best part about MW. I like to think that as someone gets more experienced in the multiplayer they will see the distinct advantages to each camera mode and choose what suits them the best which in the end is the best outcome.

4. Yes in MW Mercs and other games there are no effects from getting hit in 3rd person like there is in 1st, but did you ever stop and think that those shaking or shock effects couldn't just be added to the 3rd person camera, thus fixing this suposed problem?

5. You are a narrow minded child, other people play this game too and everyone deserves to be accounted for when it comes to game features, it is possible to make everyone happy.

6. See #5


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Hi SevenUpMustang (what for a NameMonster )

In a simulation against bots you've surely the time for all this to admire, like a film, but no one will let you in MWO the time to look at your mech and the damage ... those players are then quickly into a barrier for their team as they look instead of fighting ... rather wait for a MW film to want to measure yourself against other players as.

translated from german with google

In einer Simulation gegen Bots hast du ja sicher die zeit dafür, all dies wie in einem Film zu bewundern, aber in MWO wird dir niemand die Zeit lassen, deinen Mech und die Schäden zu betrachten ...solche Spieler werden dann schnell zu einem Hinderniss für ihr Team, weil sie gucken statt zu kämpfen ...warte lieber auf einen MW Film , als dich mit anderen Spielern messen zu wollen

Edited by CSJ Ranger, 10 February 2013 - 01:57 AM.

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Deathcarlyle, on 09 February 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

If they add 3rd person simply make it like say Planetside 2 you have the view but no hud as stated above. Also people using the past MW games having 3rd person with HUD. It never was really game breaking till MW4 Since MW4 was the first to use elevation changes and rolling hills. MW before that was mostly just Flat open land

Dont talk about this crap called planetside , there is no goal at all and totaly boring . And i expect much more from mwo , with clan and game mode .

[Sean von Steinike]

Draco Harkins, on 09 February 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

This still going? Just let it die already.

As soon as PGI puts the moronic 3rd person view to death. They haven't.

[Dustein]

[Redacted]

I have already put in my 2 C-bills. Now jut waiting to see what the Devs do...

Edited by Dustein, 11 February 2013 - 09:16 AM.

[StORmTrAin]

When third person arrives oh how great a slaughter it will be upon the 1pv'rs. It's going to be AWESOME when everyone has 3PV and they still whine because we cheat looking over hills. smh.

[DemanameD]

I'd like to atleast be able to spectate in 3rd person, or a free floating carmera would be nice. I'd like to watch the mechs battle from somewhere other than a cockpit.

[Nicholas Draconous]

I think a 3rd person view would give to other tactical options when running through towns. you could see everythink and for a scout call out target areas on the map

[Wolfclaw]

why are people still discussing this?

[BravoLima53]

I am going to have to throw my hat into the ring on the the side of 3rd person being bad for the PvP game side. Combat training for a new pilot arena or something similar would be fine with me, it will ruin combat otherwise (save a optional 3rd person spectator mode).

[Jace Lancer]

The only viable way this should be implemented is just for looks. If it becomes an option, you cannot allow the person using it to see any mechs etc that they wouldn't with first person. yeah, I like the look of my mech in 3rd person, but I love the forced first person. Adds strategy and a sense of actually piloting the damn thing.

[xor1337]

Ok. So I agree that 3rd person view would give those players and advantage.
how about allowing 3rd person view in spectate mode. or maybe during "warm up" time before the match, or Finally I think that if you want to have certain servers running 3rd person view, so at least it won't interfere with the "Real" mechwarrior matches. Maybe even make 3rd person view matches not count for CBills or XP or at least take a reduced rate.

[Stony]

Greetings all you MWO Warriors. My 2 cents...You are driving a mech not floating outside it like a spirit..so no 3rd person..JMO. See y'all on a battlefield.

[Sean von Steinike]

Wolfclaw, on 12 February 2013 - 01:07 PM, said:

why are people still discussing this?

Because the threat of this asinine play is still being held over our heads.

[Golfin Man]

Please do not put any form of 3rd person view in this game whatsoever. If there is some type of campaign (coop or otherwise) then perhaps, but other than that this game should not have anything other than the cockpit view.

[Viper69]

Sean von Steinike, on 13 February 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

Because the threat of this asinine play is still being held over our heads.

Even though he explicitly said no 3rd person in their promo videos. I think they are waiting for a cool distraction IE clan mechs or CW to add it. We will be so giddy with all the other goodies we will overlook this **** of an idea. Basically all Paul did was say no 3rd person to snag all the sim fans money then to real in the arcade shooter folks they toss 3rd person out. All it is is another way to drag in money at the expense of his credibility.

[Alois Hammer]

Se7enUpMustang, on 08 February 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

3. This is just from my expeirences with MW games- When I first started playing MW Mercs I used a combination of 1st and 3rd person view, While I was running around I would use the 3rd person camera because I wanted to watch my mech but as soon as I saw an enemy or was hit by enemy fire I switched to 1st person because locating, aiming, and shooting at an enemy is easier in 1st person mode. As i got better and better at the game this didn't change, I love watching Mechs walk, run, fly and take damage, it's the spectacle of the game that I enjoy. Not having a 3rd person camera on MWO really cuts down the fun for me, especially with how far graphic's have come since the days of MW Mercs. I want to see the armor get blasted away by missles and Gauss cannons, I want to see the armor melt when it gets hit by a lazers I want to see the various bits and pieces of my mech get torn off my all manners of violence, that's the best part about MW. I like to think that as someone gets more experienced in the multiplayer they will see the distinct advantages to each camera mode and choose what suits them the best which in the end is the best outcome.

4. Yes in MW Mercs and other games there are no effects from getting hit in 3rd person like there is in 1st, but did you ever stop and think that those shaking or shock effects couldn't just be added to the 3rd person camera, thus fixing this suposed problem?

Thank you for taking the time to explain in detail exactly why 3rd person view is Failure Incarnate. It's because of people like you who claim to want it in the name of "options," yet let their true "what I really want is maximum advantage" colors show through.

[IIurricane]

I didn't read the whole thread, but in my opinion there is maybe a way to satisfy all. Those who like it and those who disagree with the 3rd person view.
A server forced setting. Servers with 3rd person view enabled und servers where the 1st Person view is forced. The only thing the player has to do is to chose in his option menu which kind of server he wants to play on. And he will automaticly and only connected to those servers he has chosen.

This could maybe work for all but should PGI decide to allow 3rd and 1st person to the same time, without the possibility to chose, this game is done for me!

I have no need to see how my Mech gets damaged, I prefer to see how the enemy Mech is torn into pieces. And therefore the first person view is a good place!